OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => Vintage Track => Topic started by: gdr on September 26, 2009, 08:22:43 pm
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Where do you find the rules and rule changes for these meetings.
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what do you want to know,then i can steer you in the right direction
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you have rules in our rule book and different rules on sup regs
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what go you mean.which rules in particular are you refering to.
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75 models running in evo and pre 85 running in evo
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evo bikes if 1984 bikes fit this also there was a pre 70 2 valve jawa in this as well
18.7.12.3 All components will be of the period the
machine was manufactured.
a) No linkage suspension,
b) No Disc brakes,
c) Air cooled motors.
18.7.13 Evolution Class- Classes
a) Solo 125cc,
b) Solo 250cc,
c) Solo 263cc and over.
18.7.13.1 No age-group classes will be run.
18.7.14 Pre 1985 class
18.7.14.1 Pre 1985 class can be run as a National
Championship, and can be independent
of other classes
18.7.14.2 Pre 1985 eligibility. Acceptable machines
for pre 1985 are machines built up to
and including the 1984 models. The only
exception to this GCR is where the model
remains unaltered after this date. The
onus of proof of eligibility shall rest wholly
on the rider or entrant of this machine
18.7.14.3 Modifi cations using later equipment are
not allowed.
18.7.14.4 All components will be of the period the
machine was manufactured
18.7.14.5 Classes
(a) Solo 125cc
(b) Solo 250cc
(c) Solo 263cc and over
18.7.14.6 No age group classes will be run.
the same 2 valve jawa rode in these races as well
pre 1975 rode in evo.i didnt know you could up class ride as well but lots did.all had to be approved by ma as it was a national event.can you see any where in these rules that stops a 1984 non dics braked air cooled non linkage bike running in evo.if you know of a bike that didnt let me know the no as i have 1000 pics of the weekend 1 of my mates was testing his new camera out
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i read the sup regs again which are ma approved befor issued and it states you can up ride evo and pre85 on earlier bikes.basicly what the ma general compertition rules state
cheers
jim
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if you can ride up a class then pre 75 should go to pre 78.
in the evo big bore there was a suzuki with full floater susp.
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actually they jumped up 2 classes,pre 75 couldn't go into pre 78,(otherwise no rules pre78!!),but were ok to jump up to pre 85,(hence Ollies 3rd on Bully in evo 132-250 finals!),which i didn't know about either ,(could have had more rides,not that i needed them ::)), :P
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no you cant.
ma gcrs state pre 78 is for 1975 1976 1977 only also the sup regs stated that as well
i am now building 2 pre 78 bikes
125 yz yamaha
cr250 honda
cheers
but you can up grade to evo and pre84 on your pre 75 bike
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maybe we need more people to turn up n make the classes. where was everyone???
and where were the fast 250 evo bikes???????????????????????????????????
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The Full floater Suzuki pulled out before the final
Realised he should not have been there,
cheers
Noel
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Just got home from DT Nats,what a great meet.Congrats to club an members and thankyou Noel 4 fixin my twin,1st class job.
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Geez Pete, time you bought a new car.
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Now that's a road trip.
There has been 2 Grand Finals and Bathurst in between.
It was good to catch up with you Pete and well done on your results.
Hope Dave is recovering well.
By the way is Trimboli Town putting their hand up for the Nats next year.
Steve
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[color=red]Hey Old Bloke #52[/color] about time you got home,did the Titles take it out of you. Got an order for three XL 250 motosports to your specs. Might retire on that ,oh sorry you almost have ! Cheers Ol Fart. ;)
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Hi Curly, Griffith has put a submission (last week) into MA to host the titles next year mid September (proir to AFL,NRL finals October is out Bathurst & Moto GP). Two day event Sat practice & 1 round racing & Sun 4 rounds racing that is the format that we sent to MA pending their approval. Hopefully being where we are located we may attract SA & VIC riders also . Spoke to Sam at MA two weeks ago no one else has put forward a submission, we should have confirmation in the next two months.
Changing subjects re; Raymond Terrace I can not understand why people whom own classic bikes would give up there ride to let a 16 or 17 year old ride it. This happened in the Pre 1975 125cc & 250cc classes as it must feel great at that young age to be able to beat 40 yrs older & plus riders . Why aren't this younger mens fathers riding these bikes. With young guns on these machines who have had no childhood dreams of owning one these older bikes, in which I or hopefully we all have will dis illusion our sport & spirit . I am sure there are enough modern classes out there for these young men to attain there merits & leave the old stuff to the aging gents with a passion in the sport & machinery.
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On your wave lenght Grasy on the subject of young blokes racing vintage bikes. Understand it is nothing personal but I've have said it before somewhere on the OZVMX site that if I wanted to race blokes a third of my age I'd go buy a modern and go and enter any number of open MX or Dirt Track meetings that are on around the country. Having said that I also reckon it's about hanging around with and telling lies to blokes of a similar vintage that I/we have something in common with.
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i dont agree
if there were more people entered in age groups they would be racing with younger people.we have a young guy who rides under no 99 he has riden older bikes longer than me so why cant he ride.he is also very fast on that old astro i think he came 3rd or 4th at the nats,yes he rides a modern as well.the only age races were split under 50 and over 50.i am never there to win just make up nos and ride my bikes.pre75 125 and pre 75 250 are the most competitive classes.
just my 2cw
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Guys if you dont start to have some younger guys ride these bikes what future is there for the classic racing.
Just have a look at the entries for the nats.
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As someone who hasn't dropped the clutch in anger for a long time I think I have to agree with Col & Grasy.
When I'm ready to go next year I'd like to think that Ill be sharing the track with fellow Gerry's who have the same life commitments and self preservation concerns as me.
I have nothing against younger guy's being involved at all but to be honest the young bull verses old bull worries me a bit. We're not riding for sheep stations anymore and its been a long time since I left my brains in the toolbox before going to war.
Having said all that I also understand that sometimes we need the numbers for certain events to go ahead so it just has to be.
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I must say racing against those young fella's at the nats did put me off the sport a bit! I started classic racing so I could race against guys with responsibilities and respect for the machines they have put so much work into, I'd race moderns if I had an additude like 'win at any cost' and 'ride it like you stole it'.
On the flip side I couldn't think of anything better then competing at the same meeting and sharing my bike with a kin. There just needs to be a spot for them like say 2 classes;
- All powers, all bikes up to 1978. Under 30yrs age group.
- All powers, all bikes 1978 to 1990. Under 30yrs age group.
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evey club day at nepean we race against a young guy on a astro(ollie)no.99 he was at the nats as well.its good that they get into our sport,because when we go who will be ther then. no 16 was fast and yes they were racing for the prestige of being australian champ.but if they were not there some one else would have been riding the same, the opertunity of being australian champion.
all classes had there tear away riders how about the qld a grade mxer on the matchless and jawa mat.he won most things he entered.young guys on sliders they were quick as well .strider told me it was his first ride on a 2 valve and also on a dirtrack track.he is a speedway and long track rider.
without new blood in the sport it will die a slow death.
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Hi Gents, I was not trying to deter the younger riders from riding vintage or classic events, but why are the fathers of these fellows not on these bikes themselves. If MA dropped the one bike one class rule then both sons,daughters & fathers or mothers could have a ride in their respective age divisions.
Only a personal view if we had a 16 yr to Under 30 yr classes, followed by the age groups where permisable.I would rather bang bars with someone 10 years younger or older whom has a mortage to pay rather then someone a third of my age,whom from what is saw at the Ranch could not understand what a yellow flag waved in front of them ment. There was 10 over 30yrs of age riders in the Pre 1975 125cc class & 2 under 20 yrs old, in the Pre 1975 250cc class there was 13 over 30yrs old in the class & 3 under 20yrs old there was enough older riders in either event to constitute an over 30yrs & Under 49yrs Aussie Title. Just my opinion hope others have the same.
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Kind of on the same topic. Has anyone read Peter Drakeford's columm in the latest VMX. Whilst I had not one bit of input in getting the OZVMX movement up and running (big cheers to those that were involved) I would hazard a guess that one of the main aims of the movement was to get old blokes and old bikes out of the shed and back where they belong. Giving my bike to any number of young blokes to ride (whom would no doubt be a lot quicker than me) is not in the spirit of the movement I reckon and just would'nt do it for me(of course there are some exeptions). Having said that if a spot can be found in the sport for the younger generation that has no downside for the oldfarts and infact encourages there participation I'm all for it.
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Again,if we changed the pre-75 all powers 4-stroke class to simply pre-75 all powers we would have every pre 75 rider in that race,then we would get our age divisions.Who wants to start a petition?