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Title: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 09:44:37 am
Hi all those people that competed at the Nationals at Conondale.
I would like to hear from other riders who had mechanical problems at the Nationals.
Some things will be funny, some ordinary and others just bizarre.
I don't care how small the problem lets hear it.
No body will poke fun at you as all of us have had the same problems ourselves.

Please explain all the issues so we can all learn from our mistakes.

I will let the ball run and then share what happened to my bikes. Unfortunately some of my problems were man made and a bit embarrassing.

So let's hear it.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Nathan S on August 20, 2009, 10:33:33 am
Can't wait to hear from Holeshot Buddy and Snowy on this topic...  :o

My list is short, and both are a case of 'poop happens': The YZ125's  header pipe cracked, making it pop and fart and run like poop.

I guess my DNF in the second 125 was was mechanical. After getting caught up in someone else's first turn crash, the throttle assembly was dragged halfway off the bars, which pulled the cable tight. Took about 5 seconds to fix, but I didn't exactly have the tools with me, out on the track...



Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 10:38:03 am
Thanks Nathan,
Were the bikes running as they normally did before the nationals, engine wise, excluding the split pipe and race damage?
Can we find out were we normally race.
I ride in the Brisbane area, so any where from Mt Tamborine to Conondale.

 
Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 10:53:28 am
Thanks Walter,
This is the kind of thing I heard guys talking about all three days.
Some little pain in the neck thing.
A glitch in the gizmo.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 10:55:10 am
We know that Glen Bell was stuck in second gear for one of his races and Geoff Had to replace the whole gear box over night.


Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 10:58:40 am
Geoff Ballard purchased a Maico Pre 75 263 bike the week before the Nationals.
It looked pretty good when I saw it on Thursday.
On Friday the bike seized and Geoff DNFed. When it was stripped down it was discovered that the base gasket was old and dry and allowed air to enter the crank case. The bike ran lean and the back wheel locked. Geoff's mechanic and good friend Mr Burrell said that a good habit to get into at big events or when ever you are racing is to start the bike and spray "Start You Bastard" around the engine and carb. If the engine accelerates you have an air leak.
Unfortunately for Geoff they focused on his Maico 490s. A big thanks to SA63 as Sean tried his best to help Geoff Ballard by going home and bring back to the track a replacement piston.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Nathan S on August 20, 2009, 11:14:21 am
With the benefit of hindsight, my YZ's exhaust must have started cracking at the last club event I rode it in (a Heaven race in Canberra). It just got a lot worse at the Nationals. Should have been picked up during pre-event preparation, I guess (insert excuses involving work, CD6, The Boy the wife etc, taking up my increasingly precious shed time).
On the bright side, its an easy fix.

A big part of the reason why I chose to take those two bikes to the Nationals is because they are reliable and generally well sorted.
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 11:17:18 am
Kaw440 had a few problems as well.

"My kx was breaking down had a slipping clutch and was not sorted i finished the bike 2 weeks before the titles"

I hear your pain brother.

Ji  
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: kaw440 on August 20, 2009, 11:39:24 am
That was my pre85 bike my evo bike seized in pratice could not get to run right all weekend had no power them in thet last moto seized again base gasket was hangin out rooted all in all problems from practise to the last moto and who said QLD has great wheather pigs arss not for racing vmx
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 11:41:16 am
Thanks for sharing Kaw440.
Sorry to hear about your engine problems.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 11:59:08 am
Geoff Ballard also purchased a Mega 2 Maico 490 1981 the week before the Nationals.
This was an imported bike from the States.
When revved the engine loaded up towards 3/4 throttle. You know Riiiinnnng Blalb blab....
Glen Bell took a look and suggested that it was running rich so GB went down a main jet size and took it for a ride. When he returned he installed another size down main jet. After his second practise ride he was happy with the way it was running. Unfortunately he never got the chance to race it.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 12:18:10 pm
Okay it is my turn,
I guess I should start with my CZ 400 1973.
I have been working on the bike trying to get it totally restored and race ready for the nationals all year.
I had my garage princess looking great for CD6 after a lot of work and money.
When I started her the day after CD6 I discovered that the crank shaft and the crank case seals were leaking gear box oil into the combustion chamber. So on the second day after CD6 the engine was in a box and on its way to the engine rebuilder. On the Monday before the Nationals I received a phone call that the engine would not be ready in time and that I should implement "Plan B".
Plan B is to take another bike.
This is no reflection of my engine rebuilder as he worked very hard to get my Maico engine ready for CD6 at very short notice.
So I guess I can say that my CZ ran like Pus at the Nationals.
It would have been fine it there was a race were someone pushed the bike from behind while I steered.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 20, 2009, 12:20:36 pm
ji thats a familiar story i think some one told you to do that ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 12:34:33 pm
I am a hope prisoner Paul what can I say.

Paul suggested early in the year that I should split the cases and install new seals.
He was right, so I guess this could be classed as human error.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 01:15:03 pm
The best way to do this is by bike.
My Maico MC250 1977 was ripping this year and I was going to every practise to get more track time. 4 Weeks before CD6, QVMX ran a practise day at a Cooroy turf farm. What a great place this is. I went out first as the safety rider so every one would get through the first lap. I then removed the fluro vest and was on the gas. I caught all riders and held them at bay for ten laps. Then I heard "tink tink" I looked down at the engine as the rear wheel locked. I pushed the bike back to the pits and tried to free the engine, no chance. The next day I stripped the engine and discovered that the air filter nut and washer had worked themselves loose and went through the engine. I packed up the engine and sent it off to the engine rebuilder. What luck the week before I purchased a Maico head, cylinder and piston off ebay Aust. The seller sent the parts straight to my engine guy. Two weeks later the engine was back in the frame for CD6.
When I prepped the Maico for the Nationals one of the jobs was to clean the air filter. Cautiously with shakey hand I removed the element and replaced it with a rag so stuff would not fall into the carb. Only after the rag was in place did I breath again. I then lost focus because I went to plan B and only installed the element back into the Maico the day before we left for the Nationals. At Conondale the Maico would not rev past 1/4 throttle and was breaking down badly. In my first race I selected second gear for the start and got left behind as the engine bogged. I was having to change gears at 1/4 throttle as there was nothing above that. I stripped the carb and blew out all the jets, I changed the main jet, I changed the spark plug, I changed fuel and oil mixes. But nothing seemed to help. The bike was running rich but nothing seem to help. My wife, Mrs Gantor, suggested that I should check the air filter and I poo pooed that but on Sunday I was desperate so I did check it and it was so clean it was like it had not been used. I said to Mrs Gantor "See I told you it was not the air filter" .On Monday we cleaned the bike so we could work on it to find out what went wrong.
As I sat in my office on Tuesday I thought "What did I do that may have contributed to my bike running like pus"
I changed the gear box oil, Nah that can not be it,
I cleaned the air filter, wait on I stuffed a rag into the air box, did I take it out.
With spanner in hand all was revealed, in my caution to make sure that nothing would ever go through the engine again (except fuel and air) I never removed the rag. I did not make a fuss I just told Mrs Gantor that I found the problem and that we should just move on. She insisted that I tell her what was the problem so I like the real man I am I said "It was the power reed, it had a rip in it"

Mrs Gantor accepted this and we did move on I think....Though I am not sure she really believed me.
"Thank God" she is a bit like Paul if she knew the truth she would never let me forget it.

Two bikes and two Human errors.
I am not batting very well so far.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 20, 2009, 02:30:38 pm
 ;D   my mrs dont know shes the proud owner of a 501 yet either (woops) must off forgot that too
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 20, 2009, 03:36:08 pm
saved me a few times :P
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: oldfart on August 20, 2009, 03:38:12 pm
TM Bill had a Shit day Friday , just about every bike he rode needed major work done to it
 changing rear back wheels was a classic  ;D

     Bill chime on in
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: firko on August 20, 2009, 03:51:10 pm
At least you blokes got your bikes to Conondale, even if they were a bit off song. Daryl Lewis had been entered on my Cheney Yamaha 360 but a few family health dramas and my bad habit of getting sidetracked onto other projects saw the bike not quite finished on race day. It's a pity as Daryl was riding his usual faaast and the bike's light and should be pretty fast. It would have been cool to give those B44s and Sidepipers a serve but there's always next year.....

Let's hope I'm a bit better organised for Broadford. Daryl will be offered the ride again and I like the idea of D. Burt on the Boyd and Stellings TM400 in pre 75 open. My people will have a meeting with his people and we'll see what comes out the other end. ;)
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on August 20, 2009, 04:01:48 pm
Ji - coz I work overseas I had to crate my bike many months before the Nats - I was stoked when it started 2nd kick after coming out of "storage".  Unfortunately it all went downhill from there.  Pulled the bike off the stand to go out in practice/qualifying and broke the front brake cable at the hub (????) - through much generosity and searching just after lunch we had it fixed (missed qualifying of course so then into the consolation event).  Lent it to Geoff Ballard as his bike had seized - we found it running very lean so upped the main jet 2 sizes and parked it up ready for Saturday morning.  Exposed the svelte muscular bod to the elements nice and early Saturday morning ready for a ride - went to start the usually reliable old girl (careful there!) and bugger me no spark in anyway shape or form - only got a ride again courteous of some very generous fellow VMXers!

Rossco
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Brian Watson on August 20, 2009, 04:04:05 pm
My pre 75 open class bike was (what I thought) running a bit lean during practice on Friday ...so went up one main jet ...bike ran sooo rich that hardly could get off the bottom before it was blubbering....went back to the original settings and bike was good (ish)...in a three lap race the bike was very crisp and sharp for two laps and then progressively got richer and richer...till more blubbering by the time I got to the finish line... Last age group race (when the chopper came) couldn't get it started...push...push...finally going ...but massively loaded up...so no race..
My pre 75 250 ran really well all weekend..until the final couple of corners in the last all ages 250 race when the base gasket spat out and the bike was running at about 10k all by itself...made it across the finish line and then had to jamb on the ancors to make it stop...now have to fix all that before next weekend... :) ???
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:23:02 pm
Well Paul I am sure your wife has other things on her mind at the moment.
Better break it to her when the bike gets here, or when it is finished or may be when you have sold it.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:24:54 pm
Yes the engine saw no foreign objects thanks to the rag.
It also did not see much air.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:26:13 pm
TM Bill may have had a bad time with his bikes but you never see him without a smile on his face.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Snowy 76 on August 20, 2009, 05:27:03 pm
My bikes ran great, infact my 250 Husky ran so well it gained another gear, Pitty it was Reverse ??? and apart from the nut that holds the clutch basket on the 125 coming of twice and the rear brake self distructing , the bikes went fine.
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:28:45 pm
What a shame Mark your Cheney did not make it. I did want to meet both Daryl and Brad because I have spoken to both about KTM's. Very helpfull chaps.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:30:34 pm
Hi Yammiefan,
Mrs Gantor watched you cross the line when your bike red lined.
She was a bit concerned about the riders safety.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:35:54 pm
Hi Rossco,
At least you made the effort.
There should be a prize for the most effort made to attend a National.

When my Yamaha lost some parts all the Yami guys opened up their parts boxes to try and find what I needed. To all that attended the Nationals it is you people that made it a great experience. Your generosity to people you have never meet before overwhelmed me, Thanks.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 05:37:45 pm
Hey Snowy how do you get reverse?
I was going so slow I thought I was going backwards.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: 090 on August 20, 2009, 05:45:51 pm
The biggest issue i heard all weekend was bikes running lean. The side piper started rattling on the third lap of the second race. I raised the needle and went a size bigger on the main. After the third race it was still carrying on and it seems i should have gone up on the pilot. My green stripe 250 that TM Bill rode spat a base gasket. One was sourced and he was off again. All the others were good.
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: HL400 on August 20, 2009, 05:55:14 pm
Hi Ji, sory to be a smart arse but my CZ 380 on the pace from lap one, and the bike was spot on, adjusted the chain once and lube it a few times did not get the tool box out.   HL
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 06:10:41 pm
Bike three.
Around Christmas time I purchased yet another bike off Mr Fast 090.
It was a Yamaha YZ125 H 1981.
This bike was different from the rest as it could actually be started.
I don't know why I bought this bike as I never wanted a water cooled engine but I guess you have to buy them when they are for sale.
Any way I got it home, put it in the shed and there it sat until Plan B was implemented on the Saturday before the Nationals.
First we changed the gear box oil, then the spark plug, checked the coolant, fitted new tyres front and rear, tightened the chain, cleaned the air filter and tightened every visual nut and bolt. I then decided to check the front spokes. There were a few that were loose so I started tightening them until PING I broke one. I then sprayed the rest with CRC and loosened them all off before starting to tighten again. Even with this procedure I snapped another 3. So off came the front wheel and then the tyre. I then salvaged 4 from a spare wheel I also purchased off Mr Fast. After 2 hours the front wheel was back on, I then started on the rear wheel spokes. They were pretty good so that did not take long. I changed the handlebars and hand controls and repositioned the controls for down hill riding.

I then rebuild the carb with new parts I purchased from Mikuni SA and a needle Darcy donated (Thanks Mate) filled the tank with new fuel, third kick she fired.

On Friday I finally got to ride this great little bike. It had problems getting off the line and going up the hills but once it got straight it was a rocket. I found I had to do all my braking before the corners and let her flow with a small amount of throttle through the corners. If I got stuffed before the up hills I had to get off and push.

On the line of the first race I loaded the throttle in first gear and dumped it only to bogg. I did catch a few others before the second hill climb which was great only to have them stuff me in the corners before the hill climbs next lap.

On Saturday I tried changing out the carb jets moving the circlip up the needle and this did help. The engine was very crisp, but out on the track was just the same.

I put 3 litres of fuel in the tank on Saturday before my carb testing. Just before the race Mrs Gantor said "Well your race is up next youd better put some fuel in the bike" I replied "No need I put 3 litres in her this morning"
I bogged on the start again of the second race but moved up two places by Drunks Hill jump. As I turned around by the big tree the bike spluttered and stopped. I looked at the fuel line to see it was empty. I thought to myself "Your joking I did not turn on the fuel tap" but that was not the problem, I was out of gas.
I pushed her home and Mrs Gantor asked "What happened" "I ran out of fuel" I said.
"So" said Mrs Gantor "You DNFed" "Did not Fueled"

"Oh ha ha" I said

The third race on Sunday was great fun, this was the best race I had. Sure I was still no where but I really enjoyed this great little bike on this classic track.

When I got home I looked at the rear cog and noticed it had only 42 teeth and the front 14.
Standard these bikes run 12 48.
So essentially when the bike was in first it was actually in third.

Three bikes three human errors.
It is getting worse.

Ji  
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 06:16:57 pm
Hi HL400,
This is not a topic for you.
Please leave as you can only blame yourself for not coming anywhere.
After all you have no self pitty to drown in.
You also have no amusing stories of how stupid you were.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 06:25:10 pm
Come on Mr Fast you must have had some trouble that you over came.
Throttle spring to stiff or chain stretched.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: HL400 on August 20, 2009, 06:52:56 pm
OK the fork seals started to leak again, but it did not cause me to slow down I just adjusted my head to the theory of just go faster and you will skip over the bumps , and it worked out ok as the races went to 2 laps.  HL
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 06:54:44 pm
That still does not cut it.
Please take your "My bike ran great" stories elsewhere.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: HL400 on August 20, 2009, 06:59:36 pm
Ha Ha Ha. this week its Shepperton I will will do another post next week if I have a mishap.   HL
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 07:02:17 pm
Yeah, well don't come back until you have a hard luck story.
You know like the story of Ricky Bobby where his car expires and he ends up having to run over the finish line.

After all these replies are eating into my Ebay time. Where do you find those Simons forks?

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 20, 2009, 07:20:40 pm
heres a start mabee you could machine up the correct stem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SIMONS-TRIPLE-CLAMP-TREE-1977-SUZUKI-RM125-RM-125-AHRMA_W0QQitemZ200370381551QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea70162ef&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245


plus you can put a wanted on marks swapmeet site
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 07:41:28 pm
Now Paul that was a  metaphorical question.
As I do really  appreciate your help and expertise in finding items on VMX rarity ( please pm such info, I don't want everybody bidding) I don't want this topic to become 6 pages of dribble.

This is a topic for non shaven men, slumped over a log, sitting around a camp fire with a rum bottle resting near, while playing a harmonica or singing dirges at night as the wind blows through the gums in the hollow of Conondale. The sort of things that Banjo Paterson may have written about if he was still alive. "And their ghost may be heard......
This is a topic about "Our" ghosts being heard.
Ji   
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Graham on August 20, 2009, 08:00:08 pm
Well wasnt happy with my results but its the first time the kawasaki 400 twin has finished all her races with no problems,   well except for one, jumping back over drunks hill on the far side the landing made the chain come off, still all was not lost rerailed it 2 kicks and managed to take the checkered flag in last place.
But suppose thats what you get for jumping a 130kg road bike over a hill :o
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 08:03:02 pm
Welcome brother

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: oldfart on August 20, 2009, 08:23:23 pm
Ji are you home alone tonight  :)     
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 10:07:29 pm
Nope,
The Gantor family just finished watching Total Recall.
What a great film.
Sharon Stone at her sexy best.
No beaver in it though.
All that film needed was a few Maico's or CZ's jumping over the craters on Mars.

Stop it, no dribble Stewart this is a serious topic.
I don't want to upset Mr Fast again. I have to keep reminding myself about the MaicoJerseyGate. 

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 20, 2009, 10:49:46 pm
Come on guys there was 450 bikes at that shindig, there must be more hard luck stories than this.
I still have to write about bike 4 but I was saving that until others had exercised their demons. Give me a break my fingers are starting to hurt.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: TM BILL on August 21, 2009, 08:11:30 am
I did have a few bike issues  :D

As Brad said the 250 Elsinore sucked a base gasket on the first lap of Qualifying , but thanks to a great team effort and the generosity of the Chadwick family who supplied a gasket , I was able to get out in the 2nd Qualiyifer and the bike ran mint all weekend  :) and it is a really sweet bike  :) trouble is now i want one  ::)

The Evo RM had a moment with the clutch in Practice  :-[  probably a good thing as i had 4 back to back races (and that was never going to happen  ::)

The Pre 78 125 i couldnt get to grips with so that became a donor bike for the TM  ;D

First pre 75 125 race threw a chain on the first lap , got that back on and going again, then got a puncture  :o With one race between now had to do a Quick wheel change (see pics elsewhere on forum  ;D)

1st pre 75 125 age race Bike dies as 15 sec board goes up, at this point JI i wasn't smiling >:( diagnoses found clip had come of carb needle  ??? (possible by product of agricutural wheel change  :-\ )

After that the little TM ran sweet as and it is probably the fastest TM 125 iv'e ridden, (and iv'e ridden a few ) let down only by the riders  lack of Testicle fortitude  ;D

I also managed to blow a head gasket on the spare TM  ::) and by then im starting to question if i have sexy fingers (forks everything he touches  :D )

To round up the list of fork ups i managed to lose my passport  ::) I was financialy violated by the British government but they did give me a replacment so i could come home  ;D

But hey you cant let a few little issues detract from a fantastic week away ;D Without the generosity of some great mates i would be back here Towing other poor Bastards who are just trying to get from A to B and financialy violating them  ;D

Cant wait for the Queensland Titles  :D


Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 21, 2009, 08:16:17 am
Thanks TM Bill for sharing the whole story.
Looking forward to seeing you soon.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: holeshot buddy on August 21, 2009, 11:19:02 pm
i had a few issues ::) ::)
where do i start
firstly i dont usually have any bike problems normally ;)
thursday between scrutineering i rebuilded carb on husky 125
out of 3 carbs ( thanks brownie and husky pete)
friday first practice pre75 open on husky 450
started her running a bit rich specially down low
took off got to downhill bottom cut out wouldnt go pushed her back :'(
checked carb pilot jet sitting in bottom of float bowl
fixed it started first kick and idled ,cool (back to that later)
pre75 250 practice lined up on vr montesa proven tested bike
took off got to downhill bottom locked up gearbox
scull dragged pushed back (thanks jeff weiss)
pre75 125 practice husky 125 took off made it downhill :o
but gears shifting felt weird went over drunks
and shifted up to sixth and there it stayed doh
pushed it back from the tree with clutch in lucky its light
just got back and pre78 125 practice on line
jumped on montesa, rooted about now after push back
got 2 laps practice (whoopee)
lined up for race pre 75 open took off in third and it stopped
guess where bottom of that bloody hill again
vibration had turned fuel tap off
rode another half lap and did it again so i pulled out :'(
fixed tap went on line for next race and it fouled a plug
swapped lead onto other plug fired straight up then fouled another plug
pushed her back and left it with others
lined up for pre78 125 on montesa
took off bike felt a bit down on power
flat spotting over jumps etc
did  a lap coming down the hill again it stopped
zero compression looked down top of bing carb nearly off sucked air and holed piston :'(
aparently a common thing with bings bit late for me to find out now
so all my bikes rs all stopped in the bermuda triangle at conondale :'(
borrowed a honda cr125 from brad got a second and third
but it was down on power heaps compered to other 125s
but i had a good time (thanks brad) ;D
i ended up all weekend watching and helping other riders
moral is ride at nats on bikes you know and a ready
not finished just prior to event
should have rode my kx500 and rm370 :'(
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 22, 2009, 08:31:49 am
Hi TM Bill,
Well I think us Aussies should present you with a trophy for most events in one season by a foreigner.
So you have been here this year that I have seen for CD6, the Nationals and soon for the Queensland Titles.
The Tow Truck business must be very profitable in NZ !

Thanks Holeshot Buddy for sharing your tales of woe,
It sound like you had more problems than most, will any of your bikes be ready for Cooroy or Coles Creek?

Keep your chins up boys not even bad luck lasts forever.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Mrs Gantor on August 22, 2009, 09:09:13 am
Hi all Mrs Gantor here

I travel with my two boys to all the tracks and I have met some great members of the VMX scene.
I enjoyed it when I met John Boag's wife Fay at CD6 and have found we have a lot in common. Our boys are shed hermits and lovers of CZ's.

This is my first post on the forum.  Thought I better get an account myself so I can clear up some of the one sided stories that Ji has come up with relating to my ability to comprehend bike stuff!

He is after all a fisherman - you know, fishermen have a tendency to exaggerate wildly... but I wouldn't have him any other way.

Anyhow on the subject of the Maico running pus that Ji so elegantly described below as being a power reed problem and my seeming acceptance of this explanation - who does he think he's kidding - after all I did have a hand in restoring this bike with him, getting grease under my fingernails and also acquiring the nickname "tool of the week" when his hands couldn't fit into oh so small spaces in difficult to get at places on the bike

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I did not make a fuss I just told Mrs Gantor that I found the problem and that we should just move on. She insisted that I tell her what was the problem so I like the real man I am I said "It was the power reed, it had a rip in it"

Mrs Gantor accepted this and we did move on I think....Though I am not sure she really believed me.
"Thank God" she is a bit like Paul if she knew the truth she would never let me forget it.

Funny I did see him pull out a rag from the air filter box - I wasn't aware that these had suddenly become "power reeds"  though when you think about it,  it did run on the smell of an oily rag.....badly!

Now about the YZ125 running out of fuel issue - 
I just can't let him forget this one - I did go on a bit afterwards with "I told  you so" at every opportunity - he's gotta remember to listen to his pit crew!  After all not all of our suggestions are dumb.......

And I did tell him many times that he should check the air filter on the Maico!

That's two bike problems that could have been solved by my suggestions - 2 out of 2 for me - a pretty good batting average, even if I have to say so myself .....cause Ji won't!

Mrs G
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: jimg1au on August 22, 2009, 11:54:02 am
mrs gantor
fishermen dont exaggerate at all i know this as i am one as well.
cheers
jim
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 22, 2009, 11:59:14 am
ha ha ha   thats funny hang on. ill sign  mine up too !what happened to tm bills knitting thread ::) ::)
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: oldfart on August 22, 2009, 05:13:59 pm
Ji ,   consider yourself a lucky man
                                                 
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 22, 2009, 05:43:27 pm
Hi Paul,
I did not know until just now that Mrs Gantor was on this forum oh well there goes my fun.
She is very honest so I can no longer gil the lilly.
Damn I wonder if Cousin Weedy will have me.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 22, 2009, 06:08:27 pm
Hi Oldfart,
Mrs Gantor was the only bike I own at the Nationals that was not playing up( what is she going to say when she reads this).
I am a lucky man.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: jimg1au on August 22, 2009, 06:22:30 pm
us weedys like that sort of talk.1 email this morning had a pic link to a new cz
turned out to be miss chec/republic she was a good looking model long suspension and blonde paint work
do you want the link
jim
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 23, 2009, 12:23:31 am
Not now Mrs Gantor is on the forum.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: pirie593 on August 24, 2009, 03:59:27 pm
Ji,

I remember pushing my father's CZ at every meeting for 2 years.  Wore out a set of friends at the same time.  So maybe you have an original CZ.  And if it was a 73 400, be thankful that you didn't get it to the meeting where you would only have suffered from the angst of having the kick starter break, the tank leak at the head-stem support, the brake rod snap or even more frustrating, the swing-arm bolt work loose within 1 lap.

 ;D
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: mike1948 on August 24, 2009, 05:33:04 pm
Not my poor bikes fault, though.  I lined up for qualifying, got to the base of THE HILL, stopped 3/4 up, had to skulldrag the Maico down.  Guess who left the big front sprocket from flattrack on, thinking if the lap was 2.5km around, it must be fast as well.  Slipping the clutch got me up to just qualify.
Friday - raring to go, smaller sprocket in place, anticipating the start - too soon, jammed under the starting gate.  passed a few, but had lost contact with the leading group.  Then got a shunt in the rear when I pulled up.
Saturday -  Even keener, fair start, discovered at the second turn that the rear brake was almost nonexistant, should have checked after yesterdays shunt.  I probably should leave the rear brake off, lapped 12 seconds faster without it, got a place!
Sunday - Lets GO!  All prepared with brake all adjusted, waiting for my race - accident on the track, racing stopped.  Me all hyped up, checked brake adjustment a dozen times over the next hour, each time a half turn for luck, got a fair start, into the first corner, find brake is screwed so tight if I even bump it it locks the wheel.  Fastest lap 7 seconds slower than yesterday.
Gotta get a pit crew!
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 24, 2009, 06:46:03 pm
Hi pirie593,
Yes, you are right.
Something with the CZ would have gone wrong.
The YZ's I took were very entertaining and I can now say that I have raced against Glen Bell.

Ji  
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 24, 2009, 06:51:05 pm
Hi mike1948,
The large front cog made it very difficult to scale the hills.
Once on the level the bike runs okay. My YZ125 never got into third, most of the time it was in first.
I have now installed a 51 tooth rear cog with a 12 tooth front.
I will be testing gear ratios at Cooroy to see what makes the YZ's perform.

We fuss too much I believe and end up screwing ourselves over.
So many of us lost before we reached the track.

Keep well.
Ji  
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 25, 2009, 08:20:46 am
John Boag had a few problems also.
I spent Saturday afternoon with John as we searched for an intermittent carburation problem.
John's twin pipe was running well then starving then running well.
We stripped the carb and blew out all the jets.
Then we replaced the spark plug and checked the timing.
We ran the fuel tap to see if anything was blocking it but it poured fuel out of the tank.

This trying to find a problem in the field is very difficult.
I don't think we fixed the problem.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: firko on August 25, 2009, 08:50:23 am
Hey Ji....If past experience has anything to do with the situation, blowing out the jets on the twin piper was the least that bike needed. It's a pretty ordinary example of the model made to look good by Boagys amazing riding skills.
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 25, 2009, 08:57:21 am
Hi Mark,
I totally agree.
After looking over John's twin pipe I was not as keen to have one.
John's is pretty rough and low on compression as it takes nothing to kick it over. Virtually everything was held on by fencing wire. I would love to be able to restore that bike. With out John on its back I agree that bike would come in last.

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 25, 2009, 09:31:13 am
now ji dont be like that .deep down you know you want one , boagy probably has a 1/2 dozen amoung his stash off bikes, couple off phantoms in there too im told lol  so you will have to be adopted to get them in the will  cause he WONT SELL
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 25, 2009, 09:38:42 am
Hi Paul,
John told me he has three twin pipes.
He agreed to sell one to me when he gets another one to replace it.
I think that means he is not going to sell me one.
But the one that he had at the Nationals, works and looks the best so he and Fay said.
It would break my heart to see the others.
Fay and John did say that may be next time they should spend some time on making their bikes look a bit better, but I think he works on the philosophy:

"Treat em mean keep em keen"

Ji
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: paul on August 25, 2009, 09:53:01 am
YOU CAN MAKE A SILK PURSE FROM A SOWS EAR  SO THE STORY GOES ,IVE BID ON WORSE THAN THAT AND THEY COME UP GREAT WHEN FINISHED '
MAYBEE THEY CAN ADOPT YOU AND THE YOU WILL BECOME JIGANTORBOAGY THEN YOUR IN THE WILL ;D
Title: Re: My Bike Ran Like Pus at the Nationals
Post by: Ji Gantor on August 25, 2009, 10:08:10 am
Good idea except I think it would be Gantor-Boag.

I could then say.
"My name is Boag"
"Ji Boag"

Ji