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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: firko on August 18, 2009, 02:25:25 pm
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Here you go Michael, just what you've been looking for, and it's one of the original orange bad boys! I realise it's in Colorado but if you organise yourself properly it'll owe you around $1500 landed, at your front door. If you need help with shipping advise and help, drop me a PM matey.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Suzuki-TM400-Vintage-Motocross_W0QQitemZ220467359192QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3354e0edd8&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-Suzuki-TM400-Vintage-Motocross_W0QQitemZ220467359192QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3354e0edd8&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245)
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mmm. that wouldn't be a bad price at all but sadly while it's a genuine J model widow maker it's not the original orange model. That only appeared in '71 :'( shame about that as I reckon the orange suits Suzuki's far better than yella ::) I was also watching this out of interest and someone got a bargain! The seller has quite a bit of TM400 stuff. Not really rare at all in the US ;)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180396437421&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180396437421&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
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I only just seen that oh well thanks for posting that Firko. It is no dramas I am prepared to wait I was hoping to find something like that in Aus I didnt realise it would be that hard. I will remember to pm you if I see something in the US I may need help shipping with. Also I am getting a few more Suzuki's fairly soon and one is a motocrosser which I am very happy about thanks alot Michael.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-Suzuki-TM400-TM-400-Suzuki-1974-TM400-NOS-Nice-TM-400-Vintage-250-TS-CR-YZ_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cec
3649b6QQitemZ330380495286QQptZUSQ5fmotorcycles
just incase ya missed the last inspirational post ;) ;D something to dream of 8)
cheers
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It is not showing that but if I get a few bits I can make one aslong as it is a tm400 frame and motor I will be fine thanks Michael. :)
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It'll show! just copy and paste the complete link (incl. the black font) Very noice bike!!!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!Bf6kVt!!Wk~$(KGrHqIH-EYEsK,Fpl3dBLDItTpTfg~~_35.JPG)
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It is nice very noice if I find a project I will be right and then late next year or the year after I can race pre75 if I find one thanks Michael. :)
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build a racer outa this frosty :o
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-TS-400-1970s_W0QQitemZ300372198748QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item45ef94055c
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I know it looks ok but I really want a stock tm400 but I looked at a few in America and shipping may be to hard/expensive I am willing to wait I wish I could find one local thanks, Michael. :)
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there has to be one lying in some shed somewere in aus,surely some one has a old tm 400 project bike lying around ,id be keen to see you ride the sucker ;D
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Same I'd be keen I am not scared of the flipping hazards etc etc I want one stock though even with the crazy ignition thanks Michael. :)
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I could get it picked up any where in Australia no problems and it would be still cheaper than getting one posted in bits from the US I dont need a really nice looking one a bitsa would be fine thanks Michael. :)
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michael
i have been contacted by 1 of the usa sellers you have been emailing.
you need to talk to paul as he can get the bike shipped to vic
i can get it to nsw
mark can get it to qld.
the seller is willing to pack and ship to long beach ca.if it is in boxes the bike should cost you no more than 1500.00 including buying it.it is in new york but the seller might get a deal with shipping as he is a manufacturer of motorcycle stuff.
giv it a go its not that hard but you need to be aware it can take up to 3 months.i know someone who is paying 250.00 just for a little motor to be air mailed to australia
cheers
jim
you have my email addy
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michael
i can get a bike del to sydney from long beach ca much cheaper than 1 del to sydney from western australia.
in fact my cz 400 cost less from hesperia Ca than my tm300en i bought from mildura victoria.
you need to do you sums and forget about air mail just use the sea option
cheers
jim
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Thanks Jim that is good to know I am not sure as I am not in hurry it doesnt matter if I don't have one straight away I have a project rm400c I have got 1 bike interstate from Queensland and to my door it was a bit less than $300. I always thought I would find one in Australia but I am not sure how many came here and where they are all hiding I have even tried wreckers they have all ts but no tm's. Maybe no one wants to part with tm400's which is strange considering a bad rep who knows thanks alot Michael. :)
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long beach is actually no good for me i need it delivered to a yard in mont clair which is about 1 hour from ventura ,it will be store in secure lock up as well but .there is no more containers leaveing there till january next year but that will give you time to do you home work and arrange what you need to do whats you budget and i will keep my eyes open or even tell my guy over there to keep his eye open for one .
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if you can get 1 in ca it will be much cheaper
cheers
jim
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That is good thanks for the ideas I am always looking if I cant find one in Australia I will have to look at that I am not sure on budget I could obviously afford to spend more if it were in Australia but I will keep looking you never know I may find one tommorow we work for alot of different people and see lots of cars and bikes thanks alot Michael. :)
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Thanks Jim that is good to know I am not sure as I am not in hurry it doesnt matter if I don't have one straight away I have a project rm400c I have got 1 bike interstate from Queensland and to my door it was a bit less than $300. I always thought I would find one in Australia but I am not sure how many came here and where they are all hiding I have even tried wreckers they have all ts but no tm's. Maybe no one wants to part with tm400's which is strange considering a bad rep who knows thanks alot Michael. :)
I believe if you wait,watch and have patience it will come to you.There will be a TM400 oneday 8)
Its a lot to get involved in OS trading for a young fellow who may get burnt or have small finance...nothing personal frosty but you need good local support for the deal to be successful.
cheers yours in looking for a TM400
Alison
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with respect ,allison what a load off crap , next you tell him to watch out for the boogger man, there are reptuble shipping companys and bikes are cheap in the states ,with a bit off help then a tm 400 should be easy pickings ,it just a bit off a wait
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for once i totaly agree with you paul what a load of crap.i have been doing this for about 10 years and never lost a thing.the shippers i use bring in car parts hot rod parts containers leave the usa every month.its that easy even freaky gets bikes from the usa
jim
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cool ---not a problem with the load of crap ;D
cheers
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Dont worry Alison I understad what you are saying I am sort of leaning towards US way but I am not in a hurry I wanted to race pre75 but not till late next year do I get my licence and I would even have a chance to getting to an event. I still have 4 400's to ride if I have a real go I can get my rm400c together aswell and I am not going to just buy a tm becuase it is there in the US there seems to be quite a few about so wether I get one now or not for a year or two isn't a problem thanks alot Michael. :)
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Michael, my 2 cents worth..like vintage bikes the 2 cent was phased out years ago..so it's worth even less than tuppence but if you are going to the trouble of buying a TM400 from the US try and get an original orange tanked '71 TM400R 8) In my eyes this is/will be the most collectable model but ironically it's also the model that broke frames and killed people so the legend goes. Whether or not you believe in legends is entirely up to yourself but I feel they were just a little misunderstood..like me :D
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Its a lot to get involved in OS trading for a young fellow who may get burnt or have small finance...
Sorry to gang up Alison but buying a bike overseas is just as easy as getting one here and to be honest, most of the Americans I've dealt with over 20 years are a lot more honest than many of the Aussie sellers I've encountered. I think most who've dealt with American sellers will agree with me on that.
There are enough of us "uncles" on here to help him out and organise his shipping and storage if that's the direction he chooses to go.
My advise to Michael is to buy as original a bike as possible, try and avoid restored bikes as they're usually overpriced and can often be glossed up to look much better than they actually are. An unrestored bike allows Michael the pleasure of doing the bike up himself and will certainly be a hell of a lot cheaper to buy. I agree with Doc on model choice as well. I'd be looking for an early orange tanker as they're the reputation maker. Sure they were ordinary when compared to other bikes of the era but they can be made into good honest race bikes with little effort. Once again, the "uncles" here can help in that regard. Plus there is the cool factor. The TM400s evil reputation has given it a certain cool factor that can't be matched by the safe, bland opposition. It's kinda like why chicks are attracted to bad boys.
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Michael, my 2 cents worth..like vintage bikes the 2 cent was phased out years ago..so it's worth even less than tuppence but if you are going to the trouble of buying a TM400 from the US try and get an original orange tanked '71 TM400R
Ain't that the truth ,look the best aswell, go for it Frosty.
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Yeah on your first ride on one of these, make sure you got someone with a video camera and make sure you got a crowd :)
I reckon get one while you can, they are not just gonna keep poping up for sale every so often. Ive made that mistake before thinking another one will turn up when i didnt bid on something on ebay.
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This one ?
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/vmx247/TM400R71.jpg)
Firko just a typical lioness mother looking after her cub pride ;) ;D
Glad to read that the VMX Uncles would do there bit 8)
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Thanks guys I will be looking but I really must get my other projects out the way first like the gt80 it is a lot different to a tm400 but it is still a nice bike to look at but I doubt I will ride it only on clean surfaces. I must admit the 71 tm400 is the one that appeals to me most I think that is the best looking model even though they all looked good the orange one is different in a good way. If I go to get one from the US I will definetly be asking for help from a few guru's on here thanks alot Michael. :)
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Michael, my friend is selling his TM 250 AND 125 here is Geelong.
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I think I seen them advertised but I cant remember what condition are they in I am sure my dad would like a 125 he had one in late 70's but I may not be able to ride it for a while that is why I am not in a rush for a tm my dad can't be expected to drive me everywhere thanks alot Michael. :)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View
Item&item=330380495286&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
$3900 USA
$4300 Aus
27 bidders :o
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this is the kind of bike you stay clear of unless you have a lot of cash.it will not be cheao to import.you will need a title or it wount be able to leave the usa.and some shippers want aust governmet import papers that you have to apply for in canberra.
Suzuki 1974 TM400 NOS Nice! TM 400 Vintage 250 TS CR YZ
Vehicle Description
NO RESERVE !
This is an extremely nice, meticulously restored 1974 Suzuki TM400. It's an extremely special restoration with a LOT of time given to each and every surface, part, nut, bolt, washer, everything! Everything on this bike is New, NOS, Painted, Chrome Plated, Zinc Plated or Polished Beautifully. The paint is as slick as glass with the paint under the bike is slick as the rest. The engine is clean as a pin inside and out. No cracks, broken bosses or broken fins anywhere. It’s been rebuilt with new crank bearings, seals and a new .5mm over piston & ring kit. All genuine Suzuki parts. The oil injection is hooked up and working. The engine starts and runs as good as it looks. It shifts through all gears smoothly. It has an excellent factory pipe with NO dents NO dings! This bike is a most highly collectable Suzuki bike and would be a great asset to your collection. Bid with confidence, I have restored over two hundred bikes with happy customers all over the world. I could go on and on about this bike but looking at the pictures pretty much tells the tale. I have no title but will write you a full Bill of Sale. Add me to your favorite sellers for more upcoming project bikes.
If you win the auction, I will email you after the "End of Auction" notice. After that I would like to talk over arrangements by phone within 24 hours. As always, Ask questions before bidding. Sold as is.
I can have this bike shipped to your door with a carrier for around $400 - $600 here in the lower 48, depending upon the area you live. If you wanted to use your own carrier or seek one out, I would work with you if it takes more time.
International buyers should arrange shipping themselves if possible. A rough estimate for this bike to be air shipped overseas is $700 - $1200 USD and 4-10 days. There will also be a $100 crating fee, which is just about the cost for the lumber. Please check with freight forwarders in your area for quotes as well. For your quotes, the bike will originate from zip code 63070 and go through a St Louis Missouri USA dock.
Payment is due within 5 days from the close of auction. If by chance you can't arrange the money in that length of time please email me BEFORE the auction ends and we can talk over different arrangements. I am very easy to work with!! Thanks and the best of luck !! Jeff Weier
700-1200 air freight is a joke.its 250usd to air freight a yz125 motor.got quoted today 750.00 us for a sr500 motor through ups.
stay with unrestored and get it packed in boxes and imported as spare parts
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hey Frosty, was just on marks vintage website and someone has the 71 model you want
apparrently it's pretty rough cosmeticly but 500 bucks
bike is in newyork, don't know if that makes it harder to get it here
am sure the uncles can word you up on the pitfalls
good luck
tony
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Thanks Tony I had contacted him about that one but then trying to figure postage looked like it might be a drama and he had told me he had a lot of interest so he needed a decision quick and I am not in a hurry so I think he may have it sold by now thanks Michael. :)
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New York is geographically undesirable because of the extra costs getting it to the West Coast.
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The 71
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-TM-400-Cyclone-Suzuki-TM-Vintage-Motocross-TM-400_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem414aed1375QQitemZ280429925237QQptZUSQ5fmotorcycles (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-TM-400-Cyclone-Suzuki-TM-Vintage-Motocross-TM-400_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem414aed1375QQitemZ280429925237QQptZUSQ5fmotorcycles)
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Frosty what you need to do is take the build a bike option given limited resources and you have plenty of time on the clock.
Find a frame some place, buy the motor piece by piece, all the cycle parts (forks, wheels etc etc) you can find easily and cheap in Aussie.
That way you are not shipping stuff you don't need or is a hassle to move about the world.
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Frosty what you need to do is take the build a bike option given limited resources and you have plenty of time on the clock.
Find a frame some place, buy the motor piece by piece, all the cycle parts (forks, wheels etc etc) you can find easily and cheap in Aussie.That way you are not shipping stuff you don't need or is a hassle to move about the world.
Even better idea Michael. Bit by bit, piece by piece is a cheap way of doing it. In fact it's the way I like to do it, I find it more exciting and rewarding. The parts chase is one of the best parts of the build. The stuff is available, reasonably cheap and you don't have to raise the ready cash all in one go.
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Frosty what you need to do is take the build a bike option given limited resources and you have plenty of time on the clock.
Find a frame some place, buy the motor piece by piece, all the cycle parts (forks, wheels etc etc) you can find easily and cheap in Aussie.That way you are not shipping stuff you don't need or is a hassle to move about the world.
Even better idea Michael. Bit by bit, piece by piece is a cheap way of doing it. In fact it's the way I like to do it, I find it more exciting and rewarding. The parts chase is one of the best parts of the build. The stuff is available, reasonably cheap and you don't have to raise the ready cash all in one go.
I would agree but cost of postage/transport is killing this option unless you get the parts extremely cheap in the first instance.
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I had thought of that because no matter what year frame tm400 I find 71 to 74 and no matter what motor I find 71 to 74 since suzuki's numbers dont match they are just in a ball park so I can just get some cases from the US to suit the year frame I have and put those cases on to the motor I have to match that year frame. If they dont already I am doing this with three bikes already a pe400t a pe250b and a rm400c I also have a mt250 to build but no rush on any of those though thanks alot Michael. :)
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this is the kind of bike you stay clear of unless you have a lot of cash.it will not be cheao to import.you will need a title or it wount be able to leave the usa.and some shippers want aust governmet import papers that you have to apply for in canberra.
Suzuki 1974 TM400 NOS Nice! TM 400 Vintage 250 TS CR YZ
cheers ,interesting to watch though,30 minutes to go and $4861.53 Aus or $4450 US
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=330380495286&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
SOLD....$4600 US - $5025 Aus
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so I can just get some cases from the US to suit the year frame I have and put those cases on to the motor I have to match that year frame.
If I was building one I would score the cases and barrel out of the USA, sling the guts of a TS400 inside it which gives you a heavier crank and better power characteristics, slap it in the spare TM250 that is in stock and bobs your uncle.
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TS400 has different gear ratios and also ignition and flywheel so it really isnt a motor crosser even though you can make it one and get rid of tm400's problems it would not be the same I cant understand how there are no tm400's about here even in peices thanks Michael. :)
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You won't get a better buy than this Frosty!!
It's in pieces, but it looks like it's all there!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BgTDGjw!mk~$(KGrHqEOKkUEryhRc-oWBLEuvcnB9!~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!BgTDBhw!Wk~$(KGrHqYOKkYErzqoyGBTBLEuvQeNtQ~~_12.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Revell-TM400-TM250-TM-400-250-Roger-Decoster-Kit_W0QQitemZ180439299379QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a03053533
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You won't get a better buy than this Frosty!!
It's in pieces, but it looks like it's all there!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/18/!BgTDGjw!mk~$(KGrHqEOKkUEryhRc-oWBLEuvcnB9!~~_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/23/!BgTDBhw!Wk~$(KGrHqYOKkYErzqoyGBTBLEuvQeNtQ~~_12.JPG)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Revell-TM400-TM250-TM-400-250-Roger-Decoster-Kit_W0QQitemZ180439299379QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a03053533
Heartless, but funny. At least someone finally found one for the right price ;D ;D :D ;D
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TS400 has different gear ratios and also ignition and flywheel so it really isnt a motor crosser
Not quite right the TM has a taller first gear the other 4 are the same, TS has an external flywheel and the TM an inner rotor.The added inertia of the TS flywheel is exactly what the T needs.
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That tm400 looks a little flimsy and not as large as I thought they were I wonder why postage is so much if they fit in a little box like that. :) I have a rm250 tamiya model but I dont want to put it together thanks Michael. :)
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TS400 has different gear ratios and also ignition and flywheel so it really isnt a motor crosser
Not quite right the TM has a taller first gear the other 4 are the same, TS has an external flywheel and the TM an inner rotor.The added inertia of the TS flywheel is exactly what the T needs.
Yep and its that crank and flywheel that were the hot mod in the day. First gear you can disregard as the final gearing of the TS was much higher. Then the chassis starts to work rather than get you killed.
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Here's a starter Michael.......this mornings Swapmeet
FOR SALE
Ad # 3144931 December 6, 2009
Suzuki TM400 frame and engine.
Frame is unmolested,engine has no electrics.
Great compression.
$150 or make offer
Curt Fournier
Merced, CA
Phone: 209 631-3443 | Email
Registered Since 10/23/2004 | 74 Posts
Or this even better deal
FOR SALE
Ad # 3144913 December 6, 2009
1971 TM-400R. I've had it for about ten years. Just took it out of storage. It rolls, it has spark and compression. Otherwise, it's in rough shape...needs a complete resto. Has seat pan only. Cylinder head has a couple of broken fins, but I may have a spare. Pretty rare first-year TM-400 Suzook. $500.00. Merry Christmas and thanks Mark.
Gordy McCaffer
Marcellus, NY, U.S.A.
Phone: (315) 729-8415 | Email | Website
Registered Since 10/11/2004 | 70 Posts
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:D Mick, I just assembled that same model but just like the real deal I like to have mine a little bit different ;D I couldn't be bothered doing the cables cause after assembling I now realize just how blind I am these days! 8) thought about keeping it in the box but eh, what the heck, could die tomorrow and never know what it was like to put together and that's the whole reason they were made in the first place, not to look at in a box then give to someone else who probably won't respect it as much when I go belly up ;)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-2/957706/tn_22%20nov%202009%20003.jpg) (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-2/957706/22%20nov%202009%20003.jpg)
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http://www.ddr.net.au/node/1225 ::)
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I just couldn't leave it in the box ;)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/24fjq0j.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2u45945.jpg)
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Ha ha my rm250 is still in the box next to the unopened scott googles next to the nos PE speedo on my shelf of rarity.
It is only a matter of time till I get a tm400 just working hard doing the gt80 up it's on the way to being finished getting the wheels back this week and motor fully rebuilt will be finished soon I spent a fortune on the gt80 but I had to and it isn't as if I cared how much I spent on it. :)
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there is 1 on marks swap meet at the moment the guy selling it is ok i have bought stuff from him before.i am sure he will pack it up for you and send it to a shipper of your choice
jim
i think it 350.00 us
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That sounds good got a few bikes and parts I have to pick up and pay for at the moment I will sort some out that I have first and then see I will get a tm400 sooner or later I would like to race one I have a 78 rm400 but it is motor less so it won't be going any where fast.
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I just couldn't leave it in the box ;)
Or leave it yellow ::)........
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And another one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/74-suzuki-tm-400-cyclone-rm-vintage_W0QQitemZ200445299397QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_motorcycles?hash=item2eab788ac5#v4-29
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That's a bloody nice looking TM400 there Stew 8) Only things I dislike are the alloy accessory bits such as the oval muffler, the aluminium pipe guard and the lever guards, to me they look entirely out of place :-\
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Obviously have vastly different rules surrounding those wrist breaker lever guards, they're a big no no here for mx. Couldn't agree more about that butt ugly pipe guard
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maybe its used a bush basher and not actually raced in MX. If i had one i think i would not want to ride in anywhere near any trees to even need handguards. I think an open paddock is the only safe place to jump on one of those ;)
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Leith , safe is not a word I would put in a sentence when describing a Tm 400. :D
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Ahh yes thats a good point. I just hope that when Frosty finally gets one that there is A) an audience and B) a film crew, ready and waiting for his first ride :D
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Oh don't worry I am going to get one I don't have any room at the moment though and apperantly all my bikes have to be out of the shed soon not that they will be leaving for good. I am tipping late this year or sometime next year I will get one will have to wait and see and get a few other bikes done and out of the way.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-TM400-Cyclone-TM-400-1972-Suzuki-TM400-Cyclone-vintage-AHRMA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c11697f46QQitemZ120551210822QQptZUSQ5fmotorcycles
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"cyclone" by name and nature why would anyone want one?arn't there other big bore crosser's around that are better
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Matt they are a beast there are others around that are better ::) but it depends what you like I think look the best and would be a hoot to ride. :)
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No excuses Frosty.......whatcha reckon $3000 aus landed - bargain ;). Sounds like a sorted TM 8).
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=bX5whQ5g6uwWa6mB&w=1
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Yeah is probably a good deal ddr have a 71 but it has $4000 on it I like to buy bikes that need a lot of work I end up spending more probably but I have done all the work. :)
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Orange One --still around :P 8)
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/swapmeet.cgi
FOR SALE
Ad # 3154782 June 18, 2010
1971 Suzuki TM400 Cyclone
$3200.00, OBO
This bike runs and shifts great.
Frame and engine serial numbers match, 13453.
The bike had a frame kit installed when I purchased it. Whoever did it, did a professional job.
It has stock ignition and flywheel installed, but comes with heavier flywheel. Both the flywheel and frame kit were popular modifications in the day, because of the bikes reputation. The same reputation is what makes this bike so collectable today.
The top end has been completely rebuilt, and the engine has new gaskits and seals.
Every nut, bolt and washer has been polished.
The bike has new grips, tires, swing arm bushings, steering races and bearings, front and rear fenders and pipe.
The gas tank has two small dents in the right side. The engine has been converted to pre-mix fuel. An OEM plate has been installed over the oil pump hole. It still has the oil tank on it, and it is in new condition. It could be converted back to injection with no problems.
I have a lot more photos available upon request.
Thanks.
Justin Parchman
Ft. Towson, OK, Choctaw
Phone: (580) 873-9903 | Email
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I can't believe I haven't got one yet but my mum and dad will get very very mad if I get another bike becuase we don't have the room we need to find a shed as have no room as it is ;D If I am going to get one from the US it will be the 71 model which I think is the only way to go, I think they look the best thanks Michael. :)