OzVMX Forum
Marque Remarks => British (BSA, Greeves, Triumph etc) => Topic started by: mainline on August 02, 2009, 01:01:11 pm
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i thought I might do the progess of this bike on a new thread and try to keep a tabs on ongoing costs at the same time, just to see what is possible to build on a tight budget.
So far we have a B40 frame...
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/mainline_bucket/frame1sm.jpg)
for $70
a tank....
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/mainline_bucket/tank1sm.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/mainline_bucket/tank2sm-1.jpg)
for about $140 Aus delivered.
I'm stripping paint of it as we speak, and I've found a local paintless dent fixer guy so I'll see how he goes with the dings.
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(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/mainline_bucket/worksreplica.jpg)
as you can see, not only have I upgraded to a red milk crate, but I have also used a QLD man-sized pine cone as an engine mock-up rather than those pissy ones you lot down south use to hold your bikes up.
Those clamps come up rather nice after a quick go on the polish. Next step I think will be an axle for the rear wheel and then try and sort out some spokes/rims.
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Yee haa..... There's no going back now Paul. You'll soon be parked in that section of the pits with those chaps, discussing rugby union, the rising costs of getting the Beemer serviced and swapping witty anecdotes of Derek and Don taking on the commies and their CZs at Hawkestone Park.
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crazy stuff mate!
keep up the good work... 8)
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Derek and Don
how about Derek and Clive ? ;D
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What is the Budget yokes/ fork legs/ front hub combo :)
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they'd be 35mm Betors off a '74 (I think) Rickman Zundapp. The Rickman front hub came off the same bike.
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You know the worst job I ever ad.
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Jump you fu*ker, jump.
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Now I thought it would be interesting to see who would reply to my last post and for some strange reason you were on the top of the list Mark.
Sorry for the hijack Mainline, I'm finished.
Their style of comedy is pretty well matched to this sick collection of desperado's.
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Mainline I have a BSA Starfire frame that looks just like yours :o I scored it on ebay for $40 I have bought a SL350 engine to go in the frame I want to set it up for pre 70s. The frame was all ready set up to take a XL350 engine but I thought a twin would be more fun and if I can get it to pass for pre 70 as the SL's came out in 69 I might get lucky ::) :P jimson
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$40 ! I got ripped then ;D
The Bunya pinecone I'm running in mine is pre65 legal, but apparently parts are hard to come by.
Sorry for the hijack Mainline, I'm finished.
No worries there, myself and a guy I used to work with, would say hello every morning with the traditional Derek and Clive greeting. Got some strange looks
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Jimson your SL350 will have to be the very very early and rare CL350 engine that was fitted with a starter motor. All others strictly Pre75. Been there ,done that.... ;)
Opps my apologies, back to Mainlines Beeza Tim754
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Jimson...I'm afraid Tims correct. Unless your engine is an electric button equipped CL350 you're out of luck in getting the bike into pre '70. I personally think that the bike is spiritually a pre 70 machine, the rulebook unfortunately says otherwise.
Cool concept though.
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Mainline what seat are you going to use on your project? and the sprocket looks close to the shock mount so you'll need narrow shocks and could you show a close up pic of the foot peg mounts as my frame hasn't any from what I can see.jimson
Tim & Firko looks like the bike will go to pre 75 then I just thought the SL350 engine would be a carry over :'( ::) jimson
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G'day Jimson, the seat in the pic is a YZ125C that was sitting in the shed and I just plonked it on for the photo. I don't know what I'm doing for a seat yet. i'm assuming I'll have to dig up a base from and go from there?
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A B50 seat might come close Paul.....
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Hey mainline what sort of airbox/oil bottle setup are you thinking of fitting (standard)?i have a b-40 project about the same stage as you and looking for ideas certainly like to try and keep the weight down . :)cheers
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not too sure yet, I'm a fair way off that stage.
If you can get your hands on a copy of issue 21 of VMX Mag, there's a Bsang 250 in there with a trick alloy airbox that also contains the oil reservoir and ignition
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Jimson unless you race in hassle free UnZud
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Hey mainline checked out the B-sang (nice little iron!)oil bottle 's a good setup but the bully must have more room to go lower(with bottle) than the beeza putting the bottom of the carb intake only 50mm above the bottle mount plate, would only hold a couple of litres.Was hoping to keep frame fairly original so will maybe have to keep bottle uprite as per the original setup. keep ya posted and thanks for the info (PS like the boyer ignition,bit exy though)
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Ever considered using a Sammy Miller oil tank air filter box for the trials B40 both are alloy, bolt to standard frame & pre 65 legal.
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Hi,
Whats wrong with building a B40, (motor and frame), methanol burner , CZ or Bultaco forks and wheels, pre 65 legal ,big bore of course, no argument there.
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Hi,
Whats wrong with building a B40, (motor and frame), methanol burner , CZ or Bultaco forks and wheels, pre 65 legal ,big bore of course, no argument there.
With respect Michael, I thought that was exactly what Mainline was building ??? To answer your question though..........there is nothing wrong with the concept and this kind of project should be encouraged.
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It's only bultaco hubs that have to be full width to be pre 65 legal single sided hubs from rickman triumph cz are all legal it's about date of manufacture.
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hey mac 'do you know the requirements for the rear hubs?i understand the need for regs for motor /frame/suspension for pre 65 but find it a bit puzzling when when a pursang hub weight's no less with no mechanical advantage over a cz or rickman and heaps of bsa's ran single hubs before that date,be they whatever 'just close's up another market, makes it that bit harder for the average bloke on a budget to get into the class ,sorry if iam not up to speed yet on the subject. thanks
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hey mac 'do you know the requirements for the rear hubs?i understand the need for regs for motor /frame/suspension for pre 65 but find it a bit puzzling when when a pursang hub weight's no less with no mechanical advantage over a cz or rickman and heaps of bsa's ran single hubs before that date,be they whatever 'just close's up another market, makes it that bit harder for the average bloke on a budget to get into the class ,sorry if iam not up to speed yet on the subject. thanks
We've been over this ground several times and that's the way it is and it ain't gunna change in a hurry. Not that it should put any one off from building what they want the way they want it. Even ride it and race it and it shouldn't be an issue unless you start winning national championships ;) :).
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I have also been trying to build budget bsa, but very poor succes, soon I will be bankcrupt.
its b50 with pre 65 wheels, rickman front and cz rear, like the look of them and dont even know what would be most desired "bling" wheels for pre 74 where Im gonna drive it.
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also can anyone tell me why you need full width front hubs as opposed to single sided ,what is the gain?i have both pursang single and montadero double front hubs i can use and theirs a lot of difference in the weight ,is their a any literature on these things ,other than that little MA booklet. thanks
Huskihoon you can use conical hubs if you want. They just have to be available prior to 1965 or be a flow on from that era. Rickman, REH, Sprite and CZ are all reasonably cheap, lightweight and stop comparitively well. I'm not fully up with Bultaco but don't recall them using conical hubs prior to 1965 so for that reason alone they're not allowed.
I realise you're on a budget and are keen to build the bike as light as possible but would suggest you invest in a rulebook and build the bike to what is allowed rather than trying to justify using what you have laying around in the shed. All of the protests about this or that rule being unjust doesn't mean a thing unless you feel strongly enough about it to start the process to reform whatever rule peeves you. If you want Bultaco conical hubs made legal for Pre 65 and reckon you've got a good argument in favour of allowing them, lodge a reccomendation through your club emphasising your reasons for the change.
If this is all too hard, go with the flow and build the bike using hubs that qualify for the class. Simple really.
Below: A pre '65 M11 Bultaco showing its full width hubs (disregard the Ducati engine ;) )
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/duc%20metisse.jpg)
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reh and metisse way,way lighter hubs
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Here's a couple of Rickman hubs. These examples are a tad expensive, I've found them for half that price. You just have to hang in there and cheap ones will turn up. REH and Sprite go for around the same price as Rickman... $50-$120. If you're really on a budget, a good low buck front hub is the nice little full width Yamaha MX125/AT1 item. It's light, cheap as chips, comes on all sorts of different models and stops as well as the Yamaha conical. The Yammy hub is legal because it dates back to the mid sixties. I'm going to use one on my Hindall DT1 pre '70 bike.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Montesa-Rickman-Triumph-Zundapp-Front-Wheel-Hub Assy_W0QQitemZ110491250903QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19b9cab0d7 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Montesa-Rickman-Triumph-Zundapp-Front-Wheel-Hub Assy_W0QQitemZ110491250903QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item19b9cab0d7)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RICKMAN-ZUNDAPP-1971-FRONT-HUB-NICE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ260555917771QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3caa57c9cb (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RICKMAN-ZUNDAPP-1971-FRONT-HUB-NICE-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ260555917771QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3caa57c9cb)
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Sorry about the Hi Jack Mainline
no worries there mate, as long as the flow of information continues i don't give a rats ;D
There's a shiteload of info in this thread, which is where I started off....http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=7957.0
As far as $ are concerned, my forks, triples, and front and rear hubs cost me under $300 delivered. Senor Firko put me onto the fact that the Rickman Zundapp ('74 model only) has the 35mm forks plus the right hubs. I found a seller that had the bits listed under "Rickman Zundappp" rather than Betor etc.. and picked them up pretty cheap.
Looks like you've got twice the number of emails headed your way now Firko ;D
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While we're on the subject, I'll repeat the mantra that the humble little Rickman Zundapp is the best kept secret in the sport for those who like to dabble in engine swaps, specials or hot rod vintage bikes. The company made thousands of them, mostly exported to America where they are now being dragged out of barns and thrown on eBay for six pack money. I picked up a virgin '74 frame for less than $100 and it's currently receiving a 250 Maico square barrel engine and special Mk3 bodywork and will hopefully debut at CD7. You've all seen Jonesys Ugly Betty Yoshimura SL125 powered version and another mate is assembling parts to build one with DT1 power. My mate in the UK Ben is building one for his Dad using BSA B25 power.
below: here's one that sold last night.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260556552578&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D8133162211560152592 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260556552578&viewitem=&_trkparms=clkid%3D8133162211560152592)
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mark, there was a zundapp frame and tank at the ballarat swap meet for $950 this weekend, greeves frame $800, so they still pop up, l don`t think it sold.
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mark, there was a zundapp frame and tank at the ballarat swap meet for $950 this weekend l don`t think it sold.
For that money I doubt it would sell Dave. That's the sad truth about swapmeets in the new millenium. While you can still find the occasional bargain, the reality is that the prices haven't kept on the same level as eBay and other auction sites. Prior to eBay that Rickman frame would have been a good deal but even taking the shipping costs from the USA into account, eBay is still generally cheaper.
when i was looking for frame for b-40 i came across one that i think had a zundapp donk( bloke wasn't sure)but i didn't know if i could successfully graft in b-40 so i let it go,but i spose if a b25 fits it would of been ok?
I seem to recall Ben telling me that a B50 engine is too tall to fit into the Micro Metisse frame but as the photo below shows, the B25 goes in really well. You'll also notice that the B25 bike has retro fitted Mk 3 Metisse bodywork in place of the boxier Mk 4 items. Bens Dad had the same philosophy as me in not liking Mk4 bodywork very much but loving the rounder, more flowing Mk3 design. As a Mk 3 tank wont fit because it's 4" too long and the Bultaco Petite Metisse tank, even though it's the right length, won't fit because of the different shaped underside of the tank, we were up shit street for a cure to the problem until Ben started producing a body kit based on the short Mk3 Petite Metisse with an underside to suit the Micro frame. At 250 UK quid it's a bargain. I've got a yellow set on the way now. I've also shown a couple of shots of different engines in Micro frames.
Below: Bens dads B25 Micro.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/b25%20rickman%202%20.jpg)
Jonesys SL125 Micro Metisse
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/aj%20cd5.jpg)
My under construction Maico 250 Micro
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/firko%20maico.jpg)
RT1 360 Yamaha Micro
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/MICRO%20RT1%202.jpg)
Special tank for the Mk3 conversion
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/tank%20top%20side.jpg)(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/tank%20underside.jpg)
Compete Mk4/Mk3 conversion kit with high front guard. You can order a low guard if that's your bag. I did.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/metisse%20bodywork.jpg)
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nice socks Firko ;D
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Thank you Paul but they're Pommy Bens socks. I've asked him to throw a pair in with my Metisse body kit. Groovy.
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Very interesting thread. At the risk of looking like a boofhead, I have a question.
Would a 67 B40 engine in an "award winning" C15 frame be eligible for pre 65 competition?
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As the rule book say's "All except B44 and b50" so any engine with b40 stamped on the crank case should be fine. I think this would be the best pre 65 engine you could build, with a little machining a b44 alloy round cylinder, head & crank would fit in. The crankcases were the same as a b44 with end feed oil to the bigend, ball & roller main bearings. The BSA rough rider model would make a great Pre 65 mxer as it is stamped as a b40 with all the b44 running gear it was the last of the b40's.
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Very interesting thread. At the risk of looking like a boofhead, I have a question.
Would a 67 B40 engine in an "award winning" C15 frame be eligible for pre 65 competition?
Yep, it should be OK.
I should have also mentioned that the Micro Metisse frame in my previous post isn't legal for pre 65, or pre 70 for that matter.
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B44 barrel wont fit B40 cases. Ive been there and tryed that. Different size studs and spacing. Im pretty sure the cases are not 'identical' either.
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B44 barrel wont fit B40 cases. Ive been there and tryed that. Different size studs and spacing. Im pretty sure the cases are not 'identical' either
Correct. This very scenario is the basis for the still outstanding pre 65 class protest from the Conandale Nats.
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Hey curly I'am a little behind on this subject "award winning"c15 frame ,do i sense tongue in cheek ? correct me if i'am wrong but isn't c15 frame identical to b40 (geometry)whether it's a scramble,trial or enduro? any help apreciated ???
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Sorry if I got it wrong but I read in Rupert Ratio book that all four unit single engines of the G spec (1967) used the same crank case casting with differing stud pattern and different mouth dia's. So I assumed that you could fill the stud holes remachine them and open out the mouth of the case to fit the B44 parts. Sorry again for missleading anyone. Rory
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Tongue firmly in cheek Huski, I have a C15 that won the Rat Bike award at the Klub Kevlar Show & Shine Noel Clarke benefit, there's a photo in another thread.
The dilemma I have is that I have a B40 engine that was in an Elstar slider frame that scored a 3rd at the Aussie titles in 69, to ride this bike in competition I'll be up against all the 500 Japs, Jawas & other upright engines.
My thinking is to put the engine in the C15 and ride it in the Pre 65 class and I have a B50 engine that I can put in the Elstar.
Sorry to hijack this thread.
Steve
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This could be one of you B40 tragics in the not too distant future. ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYQiOLVbvb8&feature=youtube_gdata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYQiOLVbvb8&feature=youtube_gdata)
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Cheers Firko, that sounded good, the trials clip b40 sounded cool too.
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Is a C15 frame the same as a Star Fire 1969 250cc frame :-\ jimson
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Not sure about that Jimson. I know the c 15 scramble /trials and enduro frames are all the same as the b 40 :)
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Okay do you know how much a B40 or B50 engine weighs and the hp they would put out standed. I'm also building a bike but its a poor mans :-[ effort jimson
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B50SS claimed bhp = 34 ;)
Bike weight 310 lb dry.
Both figures probably not far out.
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youve looked into an ignition yet?, some of the electronic ones get a bit exy,and have been thinking along the lines of the chinese things some blokes are adapting (possible,reliable or just crap?), any ideas or input much appreciated cheers :)
Indian Enfield ignition, $80 for the whole kit from Eureka, keep mechanical advance and use the the magnetic pick up doo dad on the end of your timing shaft, then bolt CDI to frame and add small battery.
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You've got my attention now Marc.
Eureka who and how do we get in contact?
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I missed this nice little B40 on Marks Swapmeet when it went up a few days ago. I reckon this should be an inspiration for your own B40 project Mainline ;). I'm guessing that this is the concept and look you're going for? Not a bad conversion for an old daily commuter sluggo bike! It's another example that you don't need to worship Derek, Don and Eric to have a pukka pre 65 ride.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/B40%201.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/B40%202.jpg)
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I reckon this should be an inspiration for your own B40 project Mainline ;). I'm guessing that this is the concept and look you're going for?
If it wasn't before, it sure is now! ;D
Cheers Firko, I've been saving photos of bikes I like the look of as I found them, and this one definately pushes all the buttons. Thanks
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and that price is pretty sweet too hey boys!
add the shipping and exchange rate and it'd still be ballpark pricewise i reckon.
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The cheapo pre '65 concept has once again got under my skin after last week checking out my mates under construction mega dollar pre 65 Lito/Monark 500 replica. As much as I love that kind of thing, it's beyond the financial scope of most of us (and it's owner as he's quickly discovering! :o). I've been doing a bit of a stocktake out in the shed this morning and reckon I could put a passably cool pre 65 bike together for under 2k using shit I've got laying around. The usual suspects will most probably poo poo the idea but I reckon the bike I've mapped out a reasonable entry level pre 65 bike that would be quite competitive in the right hands. Of course, being the consummate pack rat, I've accumulated a lot of bits and bobs over the last 20 years, most of it left over shit from other folks projects or eBay or Swapmeet bargain basement parts as many of us have as well. .....
Engine: Triumph T100 unit 500 bought for $300US. If the seller is telling the truth, the engine is fresh and unused since being rebuilt in 1989 so the rebuild costs should be minimal.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/Trumpy%20500.jpg)
Frame: American Eagle/Sprite frame picked up for nothing ($0) on the Swapmeet. MoMs rule 18.7.2 states : Sprite:"All Villiers or Triumph engines" which puts the identical 'American Eagle' pre fastback frame squarely in the legal ball park.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/BLASTING_027.jpg)
Forks/wheels: I have OSSA Betor, Ceriani and CZ forks to pick from but will probably go with CZ units. For a front wheel I can choose between CZ, Rickman, Antig or REH but to be a bit different and to save the good stuff for other projects, I'd consider using my MX125 Yamaha full width front hub and mud catcher rim. I believe the little Yamaha hub to be pre '65 legal as their history dates back to Yamahas early sixties tiddler road bikes. An added bonus is that they stop really well. It'd be simpler to use a CZ mag hub/ Akront rim I have but I'm a tad wary of using 40 year old magnesium hubs for safety sake.
The rear wheel is not clear in my head right now but I like either REH, Rickman or the Greeves hub Frank had left over from his NSU/Greeves. It'll depend on whatever lines up easiest with the Trumpy engine.
Tank/mudguards: A fibreglass replica B44 tank I paid $20 for or the original orange American Eagle tank. They both look kosher im my mind. Mudguards would be the usual Indian made alloy items available from Jim Eade. Ditto my new favourite Royal Enfield handlebars. Shocks (Koni), levers(Amal steel) and throttle (Magura trap door) come from the bottomless stash.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/ebay%202%20041.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/ae125%20tank.jpg)
The Triumph engine fits where the Villiers/Maico/Husky/Sprite engines once sat quite nicely, much neater than the awful OSSA conversion used by Alron. The 500 Triumph/Sprite conversion was quite popular in the UK during the 60s and looks as if it was made to be there, as shown on the bike below.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/american%20eagle%20trumpy.jpg)
At the moment this 'project' is purely a hypothetical idea as I have three other projects on the go taking up my time and money. I'm merely "thinking out aloud" about ways of using my parts stash in a positive and productive way. A side benefit is that the purists would absolutely hate this bike which in itself is enough reason to build it ;). As a fan of the 'special' and a strong advocate for making the pre 65 class more accessible to the average racer, I reckon it'd be a cool project. The nucleus of the 'project' are the engine and frame and even though I got them for ridiculously low prices, anyone can do the same by looking loutside of your usual circle of interest and see what is available. A good 'ol boy mate recently bought a Norton 650 engine and gearbox off Craiglist for $400. It's destined to go into a BSA A50 frame he found for free in a blackberry bush on a friends neighbours farm. This bike will eventually be a low budget pre 65 racer, being built using the same philosophy as our hypothetic Sprite. It's all about learning what components you can use in the class and using lateral thinking when searching eBay or other sources for components. The revelation that the Yamaha hub is pre 65 legal is a result of that lateral thinking. As I've written so many times, Pre 65 doesn't have to be an exclusive posh chaps club where the members worship their mobile shrines to Derek and Don Rickman. In the beginning Metisse and Cheneys evolved from specials just like the one I propose here. Their place in history is important and the free spirit that inspired the many specials to be built should be encouraged. On top of their place in our sports history, the hot rod specials are a heap of fun to build and add a bit of colour and variety into our sport.
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I reckon go for it Firko, that neat B40 is pretty much what I'm aiming for with mine.
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Mark, notice that the Sprite frame w the Tumpy engine (above) has had the swinarm pivot relocated behind the frame tubes, maybe to allow the engine to fit
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Mark, notice that the Sprite frame w the Tumpy engine (above) has had the swinarm pivot relocated behind the frame tubes, maybe to allow the engine to fit
I had spotted that John but assumed it to be a fastback frame. However upon checking I notice the swingarm pivot bracket to be a different shape to that of a Sprite fastback frame. Once the engine gets here It'll be interesting to see if the swingarm pivot blocks it from fitting.
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No, its not the fastback frame. Diff frame tube arrangement (behind the engine)
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Mark, notice that the Sprite frame w the Tumpy engine (above) has had the swinarm pivot relocated behind the frame tubes, maybe to allow the engine to fit
Since theres a lot of activity about these frames in the Alron thread I'll add that that frame doesn't just have the swinarm pivot relocated behind the engine cradle but the engine cradle spas themselves have been uprated to 32mm from 25mm it would seem.
A period picture would be required to combat the Nazi's although as pointed out above it was a known mod. Must have been a lot of fun in the early to mid 60's with all the specials and what a shame this attitude hasn't carried over to the present (re; pre '65 class).
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Mark you may be correct with your assumption re: the extra inch or so in the cradle but I've managed to fit my Trumpy T100SC engine into my bog stock Sprite/American Eagle frame without having to lengthen the cradle or relocate the swingarm pivot. Having said that, it was an excruciatingly difficult process involving turning the frame and engine upside down and a lot of jiggling involving two people. Once in there, the engine looks well at home though. To make the conversion more feasible it's far better to relocate the swingarm pivot to behind the cradle, similar to what Hipkin did with the latter fastback frame.
Here's Franks take on what I've written. Frank Hipkin is a member of this forum but doesn't post. He usually emails me the information and I post it.
Firstly Mark did you get the leaflet on the fast back trials and scrambles, because I forget sometimes to send to you, there is so much information such as engines the forks materials used, and now I will answer your thoughts regarding the 360 Maico, personally I would have liked you to build similar Sprite to the one That Dave Smith road at the very beginning riding for the works. We did sell quite a few Frame kits for 500cc triumph engines.
I've got two of these frames so I'll use the better frame to build a replica of Dave Smiths Maico square barrel powered works bike from 1968, with Franks blessing and advice on the project. That bike could be a bit of a 'double classer' as I could also fit my Maico 250 round barrel engine (as shown in the photo of the frame in my previous post)to make it legal for pre '65/250. I'll build the Trumpy using leftovers as I described in my previous post. Both of these projects are scheduled a bit down the production line, after the Maico Metisse and Benelli street tracker are completed.
I love Frankenbikes ;D
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Frank Hipkin; We did sell quite a few Frame kits for 500cc triumph engines.
But did they change the frame to having the swingarm pivot behind the side spas and were the frame tubes enlaged as the example above to carry the heavier motor or still at 1" (25mm) ex-works?
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A certain someone sent me up a tank to see if it fits and looked the part, although it needs some minor repairs I couldn't stop myself giving it a quick squirt of silver paint ;D
Cheers to the grand poobah
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/mainline_bucket/eagletank.jpg)
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bump...progress pics Mainline :P
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Nothing major, still collecting parts. Got side tracked with a ktm300 trail bike and rl250 trials.
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Nothing major, still collecting parts. Got side tracked with a ktm300 trail bike and rl250 trials.
got to get back onto some good rebuilds here Paul :P nearly 12 months :D
Queenslanders might have room in a Nationals seacontainer heading south come August :P :P :P
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so.....thanks to Pete (yamaico) being very understanding and generous, the bsa project is back in my shed.
Updates to follow. Stay tuned.
Where the F,,k did six years go?