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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lozza on July 13, 2009, 07:16:09 pm
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Congrats to Mark Webber who has been hammering away at his dream for what seems like an eternity. Mark is not from the usualy F1 driver mould he's a country lad from Queanbeyan. He survived that horrendous double back flip at Le Mans at 200mph, given a F1 start by fellow Aussie Paul Stoddart in the minow Minardi team, then suffered some heartbreaking DNF's then finaly hit paydirt with the Red Bull team only to get knocked off his pushie and breaking a leg in his charity event. Hope he has many more wins be for he hangs up his lid.The Twostroke Institue dips it's hat to Mark Webber.
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He certainly got excited about it didn't he :o. Or was it disbelief :P.
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Just go's to show that at least one individual has some passion left in F1, unlike the other money hungry Muppets that purport to run the circus.
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I really didn't think he had a win in him. Good on him being an Aussie and all but I don't think he's going to be one of the greats. Too many DNFs for my liking and you can't blame the car for all of them.
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i could always see he was a pretty good quick driver but oh so often let down by the car. Well done on his first win. Undfortunately i missed it but i think there might be a replay on ONE HD?
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Seems Mark is kicking some arse in F1 this year. HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyBnNpWr07Q) is his pole lap which lokks like it has been speeded up it is so frigging quick. Them walls look mighty close to at that pace.
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I never thought Weber was much good....too many DNFs and not all of them due to the inadequate equipment he'd been driving. Thankfully I mat yet be proven wrong as he really does seem to be getting his act together. I'll have a bit of a looky at Monaco tonight. Although my passion for F1 is dwindling these days, I always watch the Monaco GP.
On tonights news they reported rumours that Mark Weber may sign with Ferrari. That'll be interesting.
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How good is the Monaco F1 race. It's the only F1 race I stay up to watch.
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I like the wide open spaces of Spa Francorchamps much more, the appeal of Monaco is it's complete 'irrelevance' these days. Bernie keeps it on the calendar mainly because on those big flash boats are where all the deals are done.
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There is certainly no room for error or passing on that track is there.
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I love the on board shots of the way they accelerate in to the tunnel that goes through a sweeping right hand blind bend accelerating the whole time. Now that's commitment ;).
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Aussie Mark Webber does it again!
I tipped the safety car to win before the start of the race ;D
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Good win.......Whoever drives the Merc safety car can drive too!
A good sporting weekend, the Waskally Wabbits FLOGGED the Tigers, The Tahs got up , young Jessica sailed into Sydney and now Mark Webber....who'd live anywhere else? ;D
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Didn't he win once and get a couple of podiums last year?
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Yeah, he won the German GP last year.
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Good win.......Whoever drives the Merc safety car can drive too!
A guy called Bernd Maylander drives it. I really like the sound of the safety car. That thing rips.
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Aussie Mark Webber does it again!
Is that the guy who lives in Buckinghamshire since about 1995.
Unknown young girl sits in a boat for a very long time, not doing much. - now THAT sounds exciting.
Sport! Sport! Sport!
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Without getting into a side issue on Jessica Watson too much.....Luke, have you ever been alone in a little boat in the middle of the ocean fighting 7m seas, freezing weather and the thousand other obstacles for months on end? I once went on a three day ocean sail on a yacht three times bigger than Pink Lady and between throwing up until my stomach lining started trying to escape, was terrified when we got into seas half the size she dealt with for three little hours. I couldn't get off that boat quick enough at the end of the journey. I think the kid's done damn well.
As for the bloke who chose to live in Buckinghamshire instead of his native Queanbeyan, perhaps its because (and this is a guess here) it may be closer to the epicentre of his chosen sport. I'm not the biggest Mark Webber fan but credit where credit's due.
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I think it's time for Mark to silence his critics. He only dnf'd in 2 races last season and I also thought this was about his 4th career win? ??? he picked up a 2nd at the 2010 Malaysian Grand Prix back in April , he won the opening race of the year at Catalunya and this latest Monaco GP is his 2nd win of the season. He also won the German and Brazilian GP last year and finished on the podium about 7 or 8 times ending up 4th overall in 2009 which to me shows he's no longer a flash in the pan. This year could well see him become world drivers champion as he's now a pretty consistant top 10 finisher and as stated is leading the drivers championship ;)
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Also worth noting, is that an hour before Webber's Monaco win, on the same circuit, Young West Aussie Daniel Ricciardo won the support Formula Renault 3.5 race. He also led from start to finish, he is Red bull's Reserve F1 driver and has won a championship in Europe the last two seasons in Formula Renault and British F3. A great guy from a genuiinely nice family. He will go far I reckon ;D
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Without getting into a side issue on Jessica Watson too much.....Luke, have you ever been alone in a little boat in the middle of the ocean fighting 7m seas, freezing weather and the thousand other obstacles for months on end? I once went on a three day ocean sail on a yacht three times bigger than Pink Lady and between throwing up until my stomach lining started trying to escape, was terrified when we got into seas half the size she dealt with for three little hours. I couldn't get off that boat quick enough at the end of the journey. I think the kid's done damn well.
Mark, what worries about Jessicas acheivement (and I am by no means denigrating it) is that every other wannabe father/sailor is going to start chucking their ever younger spawn into a small boat and sending 'em out to sea so that they (the father) can relive his pathetic life through their kids achievements. How long until we see a 12 yo trying to sail around the world alone?
Heaven knows I've seen enough of these pratts at kiddie MX events.
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Update....earth to people ;D
The title of this post "Mark Webber breaks through for first F1 win" was from July 13 last year and we are trying to save the planet by using less print ;D
Luke the reference to "Aussie Mark Webber" is just a play from me as everytime you hear anything about Mark from the media its...."Aussie Mark Webber"
I'm surprised channel 7's sponsored darling boy James Courtney hasn't mentioned a million times that he spent most of his teen career in Italy as a factory Kart driver and the 2 world titles IIRC.
As for Jessica....whatever floats her boat ;D how alone she was out there,only the ONEHD media knows ;)
Remember Kay Cottee?? now 44, became the first woman to sail solo, unassisted and nonstop round the world in June 1988.
I think she spent the next 32 years with her legs up in the air making babies. ;D
I vision Jessica the same way after her 15 minutes of fame are over and possibly sitting in a corner on a rocking horse Honda CR250 sucking her thumb making BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAP noises. :D
Yeah RED ALERT Daniel looks the goods from what i have seen,but tell Greg Rust that its RICCIARDO and not RICARDO...i reckon it won't be the last time either ::)
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Mark, what worries about Jessicas acheivement (and I am by no means denigrating it) is that every other wannabe father/sailor is going to start chucking their ever younger spawn into a small boat and sending 'em out to sea so that they (the father) can relive his pathetic life through their kids achievements. How long until we see a 12 yo trying to sail around the world alone?
Time will tell if you are right, but how about we just let her enjoy her accomplishment without these negative comments [with no base in fact]. Can you really imagine huge numbers of 12 year olds heading out through the heads? ???
I think her speech and subsequent correction of Kevin Rudds 'HERO' label shows she has her own mind and should be given the benefit of the doubt.
My 16 year old can't even keep his room clean…
VMX42
P.S. and good to see Mark has finally ended up in the right car, at the right time. Every F1 drivers dream. I hope he makes the most of it!!
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Can you really imagine huge numbers of 12 year olds heading out through the heads?
Not the kids that worry me it's the fathers. But yes, lets leave her to bask in her deserved glory.
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Good on Jessica for having the labia's to go and do what she wanted to do(if thats what SHE wanted to do)...but if its all for the fame and fortune and it falls flat on her face..then so be it.
What next? Jessica's life story....woke up this morning and like there was the sun and like there was like water everywhere and this fully sik like seagull just like shit on my uncle toby's (insert sponsored ad) breakfast and then like swooped down and like stole my Libra panties (insert sponsored ad)..... ;D ;D ;D
Goodluck to her anyway.....just joking around.
If she makes a buck and stays sane about it all then good.
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HAVING SOME FUN (http://vimeo.com/11784489)
I was indifferent until saw the press conference with Jessica Watson on 7 saturday night, and AFAIC she's a legend. Handles the media with consumate ease and projects a very good image, for herself and her family.
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… for having the labia's
Smooth, very smooth :-\
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It is pleasing to see the last few posts being on a more positive note. I have known the Watson family for about 10 yrs.Jessica crewed for me in a Qld catamaran c'ship a couple of years ago.I have sailed in the Southern Ocean as skipper of anS&S34 [sistership to Ella's Pink Lady] and I can tell you knockers---YOU HAVE NO F---- IDEA.
Mark Webber at Monaco achieved what no Aussie has done since Jack Brabham & and is in with a chance to become only the third Aussie to be World Fi Champ.
These are both magnificent achievments & should be celebrated as such.
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SUPERSENIOR 50
i know were you are comming from i was a stink boat game fishing capt of a 28ft berty and many a time surfed waves on the way home.good on her its not for me though. know the power of the sea and whats in there to clean it up.
and good on mark webber hope he wins
while we are on sport the poms did it to us again.i still havent got ove the johny sindrome from the world cup loss to the poms
jim
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Seems the Turkish GP was full of action Mark Weber described it as "a forking disaster". Seems there is some intra team scullduggery afoot. As team orders are verboden
Weber had the race shot to bits and all of a sudden Vettel closes in Hand over fist then THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIc-A--iNU) happens and Weber get the blame. WTF? ???
NB the awesome Adrian Newy 'facepalm' ;D
COMPARISON (http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7280/fghgf.jpg)
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/intrigue-at-red-bull-racing/
http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/05/31/the-real-fking-disaster/
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Watched it last night and yeah Mark was robbed and i think he has vettell rattled at the moment.
At least he came out of it to get points and a 3rd place...gonna be some interesting times at Redbull coming up.
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I'm thinking exactly the same thing, but if you read Red Bull's take on it, they reckon Mark should have let him past! >:(
I must admit that I was a Mark Webber nay-sayer a couple of years ago, but he's proven me wrong especially in the way he speaks and deals with things when it does go wrong.
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I thought Mark did let him pass but Vettel turned in too early to stay on the clean line....i don't think he's learn't how to use the mirrors yet.
Maybe it's Redbulls way of dealing with Mark's Ferrari rumours.
Its probably their way of working out deals because a German driver and interest will always bring in more money and sponsorship deals than an Aussie ever will.
Mark should just keep on keeping on and stick it up Vettell and keep proving that he has the goods...which everyone can now see.
I think he was busting too let loose in the interview but held it well... good on him
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one of the telecasts post-race said Webber had gone to fuel saving mode that lap, while Vettel had 1 more lap at full power (he'd saved some fuel behind Mark), which is why he could get the extra accelleration out of the corner....
Did you see the post race press conference? While Button was talking to microphone, Hamilton and Webber were talking. Hamilton mimed theat from his view (behind Vettel), it looked that Vettel pulled alongside and turned right. Mark just nodded....
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Seems Vettel, Horner, Marko and Red Bull supremo Deitrich Materschitz(I just like writing that name) are to only peole in the world who have Weber as the cause of the coming together ???
In GPweek Weber was quoted as saying to journo's to 'dig deeper' into the story ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8714410.stm
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I am not sure that Mark has read the script correctly… he was supposed to the be solid number 2 who was there to support the young up and comer. Experienced and solid, not a true threat for the title.
There was no need to formalise his #2 status because he wasn't going to be a regular threat on the track, but then something changed and his results have gone through the roof and the young German isn't dealing with it terribly well.
It was a rash and slightly desparate move that showed that Vettel still has a lot to learn.
You can see that Mark knows that this is his time to shine, especially after soldiering on in the other teams he has driven for. He is in a good car and he is now showing his true ability. Good to see he isn't going to roll over just because certain members of the team think he should.
You can bet the next time Vettel tries to pass him he will give him more room. Gotta love a bit of good old aussie agro…
Almost makes watching F1 entertaining again.
VMX42
And a shout of thanks to Martin Brundle for telling the world who was really at fault…
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Well said VMX42,totally agree.
A true racer doesn't lie down when his qualifying results speak for themselves.
If he was consistantly slower than Vettel,fair enough....but he ain't and the times are showing that so why should he yeild for being faster than his team mate!
Mark is on the top teams radar now so the only way is up from here.
RedBull can only stay on top for so long until the other catch....and that will happen.
With new tyre contracts and the rumour of small capacity turbos again....Marks time is now and if Redbull wants him to be #2 the best remedy to make them look silly is to win when you are unwanted(if thats the case)
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Have you actually drank a can of Red Bull? Jerry
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I can honestly say no....never drank it or need to.
We are are taking about a racing oganisation...not a drink sponsor.
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Great race and apparent pro-euro/team owner/german preference showing up in Vettles shitty on track attitude toward a team mate. These pricks think world championships are bought or handed to them on a platter. Webber basically told Vettle to 'get a big dog up ya mate!'
Reminds me of when Schumacher used to punt everyone off the track to win, worst thing for F1 ever. In a Top Gear interview he mentioned he didnt see any problem doing that so long as the means justified the end.
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Great race and apparent pro-euro/team owner/german preference showing up in Vettles shitty on track attitude toward a team mate. These pricks think world championships are bought or handed to them on a platter. Webber basically told Vettle to 'get a big dog up ya mate!'
Reminds me of when Schumacher used to punt everyone off the track to win, worst thing for F1 ever. In a Top Gear interview he mentioned he didnt see any problem doing that so long as the means justified the end.
reminds me of a story I read a while back about Peter Collins handing over his Ferrari to Fangio at the Italian GP in about '57 (Fangio was aged in his mid 40's by that stage) when Fangio's car had broken and he was in the lead in the race and the title chase. The clincher being that Collins could have won the championship if he hadn't have done what he did. The difference between then and now.
and then there's the story behind this gem of a bike http://www.ma.org.au/index.php?id=605The 1968 Australian Grand Prix at Bathurst is an event still talked about. Toombs disappeared into the distance to make it three Senior Bathurst wins in a row, and had the Unlimited GP shot to pieces as well until he fell on an oil patch on the final lap. As he struggled to right the G50, second placed Bill Horsman stopped and waited for Ron to remount, still holding the lead! Bill reckons the race was morally Ron’s, but his sportsmanship almost backfired when his own Norton ran out of fuel on the last corner. To complete a remarkable series of events, Jack Ahearn, in third place, idled along behind Horsman until he had pushed over the line to claim the runner up spot! It wouldn’t happen today.
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ASK SEBASTIAN (http://www.redbullracing.com/cs/Satellite/en_INT/Article/I’m-Sebastian-Vettel…-Ask-Me-Whatever-You-Like-021242852779874?refmod=Related&refmodpos=1)
Comments are priceless, wonder how long they will be there(just click on the 'more') ;D
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ASK SEBASTIAN (http://www.redbullracing.com/cs/Satellite/en_INT/Article/I’m-Sebastian-Vettel…-Ask-Me-Whatever-You-Like-021242852779874?refmod=Related&refmodpos=1)
Comments are priceless, wonder how long they will be there(just click on the 'more') ;D
There was no 'more' :o.
But gee the Fans comments took him to task.
"Seb, The majority of the media is calling you a petulant brat and a spoilt child, and it is obvious to all outside the team that they favour you."
"Lost what little respect I had for you on the weekend,"
"Seb, why arent you owning up to your failure like a man?"
"When are you quitting formula 1?"
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Lol....love the comments #62 and 56 made me spit my cuppa :D
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There is a small 'more' at the bottom of the screen, about post #20 they go into 'we luv u Seb' pre-pubestant stuff ;D
Most of them come from Australia surprise surprise...................
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… about post #20 they go into 'we luv u Seb' pre-pubestant stuff
That's because they were written before the incident…
I love the comment by Marko that Vettel was 'at least 2 meters in front of Webber'. Just shows why he was such a crap F1 driver him self - no depth perception [and wonderful German people skills].
What a PR disaster that could have been fixed with a simple appology. Sorry I f#%ked up!!
Canada is going to be worth watching though…
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After years of thinking that Webber was an overrated pretender, I'm now considering joining the rest of Australia on the 'I always knew Mark Webber was good' band wagon. His latest performances either show that he's found some ability to avoid trouble that has been previously not evident or that the Red Bull car is so much better than the opposition it's turned him into a winner. I personally suspect a bit of both.
Sebastian Vettel either had a monstrous brain fade or deliberately tried to take 'our Mark' out. 'Our Mark' has perfect right to be pissed off but if I was his advisor I'd be warning him against any get evens as they more time than not have a reverse effect, as the Vettel kiddie found out in Turkey.
Shumachers taught the lad well.
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....... if I was his advisor I'd be warning him against any get evens as they more time than not have a reverse effect, as the Vettel kiddie found out in Turkey.
Yeah I agree. When open wheelers touch normally both come off second hand. I think Weber was exceptionally lucky.
I'm not an avid F1 watcher or expert but from what I saw I thought Vettle purposely turned into Weber. It probably started as a genuine, if ambitious, overtake but their was a definite steering effort/turn in at the last when he was next to Weber. If it was deliberate and willful or brain fade I don't know :-[.
But it is the human side during the aftermath that has become interesting. Smacks of Daze of Our Lifes ::).
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It probably started as a genuine, if ambitious, overtake but their was a definite steering effort/turn in at the last when he was next to Weber. If it was deliberate and willful or brain fade I don't know :-[.
I agree, it was probably 'just one of those things' that happen in racing. If he just grew a 'pair' and manned up and appologised it would all be over with by now.
It will be interesting to see how the situation is 'managed' from here on in. I am sure the simple solution won't be the chosen option - not enough spin for F1.
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…oh and please, please, please can we agree to never again call him - "Our Mark Webber"*.
I also hope he was never a 'little Aussie battler", or "a Working Australian" or the "Mate" of a mainstream talkback radio host or politician. At least he can never be a "Golden Girl" or "Super Mum".
But most of all if I hear him described as a "Hero" I will scream the walls down.
These are simple requests. Please, please, please grant me these simple requests - it is not too much to ask [is it?].
VMX42
*Yes, I do realise that Firko was taking the piss…
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If I was in Webbers position I would have done the same thing and squezzed him inside and hoped vettel backed off
If I was in Vettels position I would have done the same thing and turned right to get on the right line for the corner and hoped webber backed off
Its racing!! 2 guys going for the same piece of track. most times someone blinks, sometimes no one does
All this talk of "he had the line" or "he had right of way" is a load of shit.
I want Webber to win the championship however Vettel might have lost the battle but the War isn't over, I bet Webber gives him a bit more room next time
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I always say , when the frontwheel gets through the rest will follow ;D
I say, if you crash and I don't, it must have been my corner. :) ;).
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I bet Webber gives him a bit more room next time
I'll bet it will be 'more of the same' :D ;).
I'll also bet it will be the team manager screaming his tits off at both of them :D ;).
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Well the one thing they have both done is given Red Bull what now must be tens of millions of dollars advertising ;)
Like the drink or not ;D (my case not)
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" come on !!!!!" Mark webber has got better since he used his Sheep gloves with the Velcro on. "come on!!!" our Mark the little Auzie battler
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My view is that neither did anything wrong,just that Vettel failed to use the silly mirrors and turned in too early on "Aussie Mark Webber" ;)
What gets my goat is that Vettel wasn't man enough to admit that he f@#ked up.....simple.
He had a few followers,but now i think people can see through the immaturity that he is showing.
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After 'our' Mark Webber had the monumental flip over in Spain and Red Bull 'took his wings'* in GB he does very well at Silverstone.If looks could kill, Vettel would be dead, Mark after qualifing.Was a nice bit of driving in the first turn and certainly 'man'd up' his team mate.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/238746/webber-to-discuss-future-with-red-bull/
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Yeah great "shepard" ;) by "Aussie Mark Webber" to keep his position and stuff up Seb's first corner and race/win.
I love his comment just after the finishline through his 2way radio....."not bad for a number 2 driver!"
That would have pissed off Horner and his comrades ,was it a return with "keep smiling Mark" ??
Alonso can't take a trick at the moment....someone doesn't like him.
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Good on 'Queanbeyan born' Marc Webber for his win. I hope he can keep the wheels on the tarmac for long enough to reel in Hamilton and maybe win the Championship.
I still can't help thinking that if Webber's winning GP's, the gene pool in F1 must be at an all time low. ;)
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I still can't help thinking that if Webber's winning GP's, the gene pool in F1 must be at an all time low. ;)
Or you could just be wrong about him. :)
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Maybe I have got it wrong Jeff....I sure hope he proves me wrong and goes on to win the title over and over. ;D
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The car is awesome to .............. did anyone see the RBR simulator before the GP? How much fun would that be? Sure beats Playstation 2............
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What on Firko, that is not a good call.
As a driver he has great talent for sure, not good luck (thats for sure) and not good judgement.
But the talent pool is as good as ever in F1 and now he is showing his wears in a very competive car.
One thing he has lacked is the ability to stand up for himself as he is now doing.
On his given day he would be competitive with any driver of the past 20 years (save for Anton Senna). His now team mate is being put up as the next Michael Schumacher and he can do the times (over long runs) that the kid can. Remember He also developed this car so this skills in that area should not be over looked
I for one will support him because (you guest it) he is Australian and we need to support our drivers (and riders) overseas.
Also those who should know (Sir Jack and Alan Jones) both think he is the real deal and that is good enough for me ;)
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Better retract that firko or 'Queanbeyan's own' Mark Webber will do this to you ;D ( sponsor logo placement tip No 258 look at every possible angle)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/webber420-420x0.jpg)
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hat on Firko, that is not a good call.
That's just my opinion and I'm prepared to change my opinion when I'm convinced I'm wrong. Just because Our Mark is a Aussie doesn't make him bulletproof. I've never understood the mindset that because a rider/driver/runner/player/actor/whatever is an Aussie, we are obliged to support him or her and go apeshit anytime someone dares to criticise them. I reckon that if 'Aussie' Mark was Hungarian none of us would have an opinion of him at all and would be able to see through the gum tree jingoism and see that he's just another minor league F1 driver who's having a pretty good run at present.
I reckon "Queanbeyans own" has had way too many career crashes and mechanical breakages for a driver who's supposed to be in sync with his vehicle. I must admit that he's improved dramatically in recent times but much of that success is down to the dominance of the Red Bull car I suspect.
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I want a rule that whenever 'true blue' Mark Webber is mentioned a as yet unused tabloid cliche must precede his name .............otherwise you will get (http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/_48320568_webber_vettel_reuters.jpg)
Death Stare ,crushing handshake and 'wanker' gesture ;D
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Underdog Webber was having a spectacular run of bad luck for a while there. That he got into a good car shows that someone save the talent there.
Even if its all about the car, he's still up there with Vettel - and you'd have to think that if the RedBull car was good enough to make two substandard drivers look awesome, then the 'talented' drivers (who-ever they might be) would be clambering over each other to try to get a seat.
Webber is good enough to deserve his place in the team with the best car. Just because he's not dominant like Senna (or Watts, Knight, Woods, Federer or whoever) doesn't make him crap.
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Firko,
Did not say you had to support him "just" because he is Australian but I would and do as that is the way I am.
Those who would know do believe he has the talent
When it comes to talking about vintage motocross I will take your opinion Firko, but when it comes to F1 I will stay with Sir Jack if you don't mind.
But at the end of the day it is your opinion and I respect that.
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I feel a team member is your team mate and both work to the teams advantage, but Vettel is not a team player, so in this situation their should be a rule one team and one driver. Webber would drive a lot better and faster if he didn`t have vettel in the back of his mind. Webber is smoother than vettel, vettel is an excellent driver but dangerous as a team mate.
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The way I saw the start was that Vettel nearly put Mark into the wall at very high speed off the start - could have been real bad!
After having a couple of bad crashes lately (some of his own fault probably) Mark would be well pissed at Vettel, as would anybody.
Especially after the 'team' put Marks front wing onto Vettels car for qualifying, after Vettels own fell off!
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It is funny how that nose cone u hum..."fell off". ;)
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Vettel my friend...you snooze,you lose.
Aussie Mark Webber does it again....flawless drive and leading the points again. Well done
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Yes was a flawless drive by 'underdog' Mark Webber , team policy is whoever is leading the championship gets the special treatment. Schumacher did himself no favours by trying his best to run old Rubens into the wall.
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vettel is a saw looser, webber smoked them congratulation, shoemaker dirty tricks, could have turned nasty.
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Schumacher did himself no favours by trying his best to run old Rubens into the wall.
I used to defend Michael Schumacher's driving for it's guts and determination, but I'm afraid he lost a lot of respect from me with that move. It could have ended very badly.
Good to see Rubens still made that pass stick, though. ;D
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Maybe, just maybe 'Our Mark' has the goods to go ahead and win the Championship. 'Queanbeyan born' Mark showed a bit of class in Hungary, let's hope he can carry on without hitting any more objects.
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Maybe, just maybe 'Our Mark' has the goods to go ahead and win the Championship. 'Queanbeyan born' Mark showed a bit of class in Hungary, let's hope he can carry on without hitting any more objects.
Just imagine how fast he will go now he has another Mark on board!!
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Schumacher did himself no favours by trying his best to run old Rubens into the wall.
I used to defend Michael Schumacher's driving for it's guts and determination, but I'm afraid he lost a lot of respect from me with that move. It could have ended very badly.
Good to see Rubens still made that pass stick, though. ;D
mmmmm-he doesn't even see to have the guts to speak one on one. :-\
way of the modern world. ::)
Michael Schumacher apologises to Rubens Barrichello for Hungarian GP
From correspondents in Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
August 27, 2010
Michael Schumacher has personally apologised, albeit via a text message, to Rubens Barrichello for almost running him into the pit wall during the Hungarian Grand Prix.
The seven-time champion forced the Williams driver to within inches of the pit wall in an attempt to stop him overtaking, and although the Mercedes driver initially defended his actions, the worldwide criticism he received prompted him to apologise on his website.
However, Schumacher has now personally apologised by text as Barrichello prepares for his 300th career Grand Prix in Belgium this weekend.
Schumacher said: "There were two reasons I sent the text. One of the main reasons is that it is his 300th Grand Prix and we have quite a lot of history together so I thought it was appropriate to congratulate him.
"Secondly, to clarify the point because he sort of felt that I wanted to push him against the wall and very clearly this was not my ambition.
"I wanted to race very tightly but without any contact. If he felt that this was the case then I am sorry for that."
Barrichello confirmed that he had received the text message from his former teammate, and was happy to accept his apology.
He said: "I received a message from him today, an SMS.
"Somebody said to him that I was under the impression he had pushed me on to the wall, and he said it wasn't the case and he apologised for that.
"I just said 'thank you, no problem'. I accepted it, wished him a good weekend, life goes on." :D good on Barrichello
Agence France-Presse
and now back to the man ;D
Mark Webber heads to Belgian Grand Prix as rating's leader and favourite
Mark Webber will find himself in an unusual but welcome new role next week when he travels to Spa-Francorchamps - as favourite to win the Belgian Grand Prix.
The Red Bull driver, who leads the drivers' championship after claiming his fourth win of the season at the Hungarian Grand Prix, may also want to celebrate his 34th birthday on Saturday August 27 by ending teammate Sebastian Vettel's domination of pole position.
The young German, who was 23 in July, has taken the prime starting spot at the last four race weekends in succession. But he knows that Webber, controlled and confident, is in the kind of form and frame of mind not only to qualify well but to win the race.
Since his last victory, support for Webber's bid to become the third Australian champion, following Jack Brabham (1959, 1960 and 1966) and Alan Jones (1980), has grown.
Last week his manager and erstwhile paddock personality Flavio Briatore predicted he was set to triumph.
"Mark is a driver capable of exceptional feats," said Briatore, who was team boss at Benetton and Renault and oversaw world titles won by German Michael Schumacher and Spaniard Fernando Alonso.
"He has now reached a maturity and inner calmness that can take him really far.
"In Hungary he was the first one understanding that he could take a risk in running for three-quarter distance on the soft tyres he had at the start.
"That was the winning move but it also demonstrated how much he uses his brain, unlike many others."
Webber, however, is determined not to allow the widespread praise and optimism to go to his head as he looks ahead to a title run-in that will test him to the limits in one of the most hotly-contested championships for years.
He is just four points ahead of 2008 champion Briton Lewis Hamilton of McLaren with seven races remaining.
"We've shown this year that the car is performing on all tracks so we hope we don't have any weak circuits ahead now," said Webber.
"So, for sure, Singapore should be good, Suzuka, Brazil and Abu Dhabi.
"We're a little bit worried about how the long straights might go at some of the other venues, at maybe Monza.
"But the car is very, very strong at most tracks so we're ready to take on anyone at any venue and I'm looking forward to all the races coming up.
"It would be nice to win Spa, Suzuka and a few other victories, and along with that hopefully comes something special.
"We need to focus on being consistent on some tracks where we are not quite there or I'm not quite there.
"We've had some small hiccups here and there because you need perfect weekends to win at this level and, of course, Seb and I are pushing each other pretty hard as well to beat each other and you need to get everything right."
Like Vettel, Webber is nothing less than a full-on fighter committed to winning races and the title - even if that means having first to beat your teammate.
But Webber added that he now felt strong enough after his good run to focus on finishing the season on a high - and relying on his team's Renault engines to survive the speed and endurance tests in Belgium, Italy and Japan.
"I have a few of my goals already in the pocket this year, which is sensational," he said.
"But we have some great races coming up in the future, some real signature events which would be great to win.
"Every race gives 25 points and we need to perform everywhere. If we can do that you never know what could happen at the end of the year."
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Spa is always worth a bit of a look, due to the sheer speed of the place. The drop through Eau Rouge is MUCH more daunting than it looks on telle, then there is the flat out in 7th 190 mph Blanchimont corner. If it gets damp at the top of the circuit cars make long contrails from the rear wing.
Well I suppose Schumi is looking for Damon Hill's mobile number now ::)
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Yep an old topic...
but we got the kid on position tomorrow...
Go get em Daniel Ricciardo the future calls 8)
cheers A
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I wish the stupid news and sports presenters would call him Daniel Ricci-ardo and not Daniel Ricardo, his agent and publicist should get onto that.
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Mark not obeying team orders tsk tsk tsk. Reports of a VERY big offer from Renault for Webber's services for 2012, would be crazy to leave RBR though.
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That all depends on him being offered a ride at RBR next year, not playing number 2 to Christain Horner's kid won't have done him any favours