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Marque Remarks => CZ => Topic started by: JC on June 18, 2009, 03:56:54 pm

Title: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: JC on June 18, 2009, 03:56:54 pm
I'm lead to believe 400 Suz pistons can be used in CZ. Does anybody know what's involved?

Is gudgeon dia & deck ht the same?
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: Bamford#69 on June 18, 2009, 04:27:01 pm
HI ,
I dont know if Suzuki pistons fit ,I do know that CZ 400 piston will fit perfectly, without any machining or modification ,
cheers
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: evo550 on June 18, 2009, 10:43:53 pm
I also think that the suzi 400 pistons are a perfect replacement for a suzi 400 piston........rings are interchangable as well, most other components also, come to think of it ;)
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: jimg1au on June 18, 2009, 11:00:40 pm
if you realy must you can buy wisco kits up to 2mm oversive for 380czs over the inernet from cz stuff uk.why would you put jap stuff into a perfictly good cech engine,which you can still buy everything to repair gen cz.even sleves
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: DR on June 19, 2009, 06:54:41 am
JC, it's the 82mm TS/TM400 pistons I believe that slot into the 380. Unsure of dimensions but I do have a couple in the garage I can measure if you have a CZ item for comparison ;)
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: jimg1au on June 19, 2009, 08:05:48 am
if you do it in a few days i still have my new 1st oversize gen cz piston to measure aganst befor i put it in the motor
cheers
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: DR on June 19, 2009, 08:17:30 am
TS/TM400 = 20mm pin, 24mm deck height (from top of gudgeon hole to top edge of piston), 80mm skirt from top to bottom, 6mm top dome height (measured with piston inverted on flat surface)
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: Tim37 on July 29, 2009, 03:59:32 pm
Boys dont even bother with those Jap scrap pistons I bought a 400 motor with a new one in it years ago it lasted 2 meetings wore out quicker than a borrowed chainsaw . I get long life from a wiseco if its run @ 20:1 with good oil and run in like this
15 minutes light riding -allow to cool o/night 20 mins medium riding allow to cool - check base nuts , then race as normal
 always warm the engine up for a while @ low revs till its warm before riding wiscos are forged and take time to expand to correct size- clearance
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: k2000x on July 29, 2009, 04:22:54 pm
ive got a 72 cz250 when pulled the motor down it to had a suzuki piston in it
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: shakeyCZ on August 25, 2009, 04:21:17 pm
ive got a 72 cz250 when pulled the motor down it to had a suzuki piston in it


do you have the size of the piston or any ID numbers, Im keen to no what Suzuki model it came from could be a good alternative to the costly and hard to find CZ pistons for a 250.. also anybody no where to get cylinders sleevs redone in australia and whats the normaly the cost??
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: Freakshow on August 26, 2009, 11:47:09 pm
Guy in adelaide fits and recuts custom steel sleeves in by hand, last one was $350 bucks drop off , pick up week later
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: shakeyCZ on August 27, 2009, 08:30:22 am
Guy in adelaide fits and recuts custom steel sleeves in by hand, last one was $350 bucks drop off , pick up week later

Some info or phone number would be great if you have the info
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: eno on August 27, 2009, 08:55:58 am
I've been laying low but can't stand to see the suffering of messing with zook pistons that are probably harder to obtain than Wiseco from a good friendly CZ supplier in the USA: 

http://www.nwmaicoandcz.com/

I'm guessing they do sleeves as well & fact there's possibly more of those (OEM) available than stock pistons.

Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: jimg1au on August 27, 2009, 08:58:14 am
i also know guys in the states to sell gen pistons and also do or sll you gen sleves
send this guy an email of what you want
[email protected]
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: shakeyCZ on August 27, 2009, 12:31:04 pm
I've been laying low but can't stand to see the suffering of messing with zook pistons that are probably harder to obtain than Wiseco from a good friendly CZ supplier in the USA: 

http://www.nwmaicoandcz.com/

I'm guessing they do sleeves as well & fact there's possibly more of those (OEM) available than stock pistons.




Im keen to use Aussie shops first, and most of the places in the USA don't have sleeves,Ive only found one and he wants $400 US for a second hand one plus $200 for shipping, so I aint gettin that one, surely there is more places that make sleeves to match you can get them for cars so I don't see why some one can't do it for bikes as for a piston thats not the problem  I need a sleeve!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: 090 on September 01, 2009, 06:09:06 pm
Where are you Shakey?
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: shakeyCZ on September 02, 2009, 01:40:02 pm
Im in cold Canberra ;D ;D ;D

( :DAustralia)
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: 090 on September 02, 2009, 04:45:59 pm
A guy here in Queensland can make a sleeve for you. He is slow but good and reasonably priced.
His name is George Mackenzie 32064230.
Title: Re: Suz piston in 400 CZ
Post by: dkupf on September 02, 2009, 06:22:49 pm
I know its no help at all. But I have a ts250 piston in my 250 Hodaka Darcy #674