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Marque Remarks => Spaniards (Bultaco, Ossa, Montesa etc) => Topic started by: All Things 414 on June 03, 2009, 07:17:27 am

Title: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 03, 2009, 07:17:27 am
.....that this one slipped through everyones fingers! It's now mine.  :)
* The link is no longer here I'm sorry to say  :-\
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: JohnnyO on June 03, 2009, 07:40:34 am
I saw it and it's not far from here but don't need any more bikes.
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Post by: paul on June 03, 2009, 08:12:44 am
A THANKS PAUL WOULD BE GOOD
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Post by: Nathan S on June 03, 2009, 08:45:04 am
Edit: Just realised that it was a different ad - I'm talking about the VR that's in the pics. It was advertised for $2k.
Edit #2: Seller has reused the Cappra ad for the H6. Nice way to dodge Ebay fees... Maybe even be two different blokes (probably mates), given that the location changed from Brisbane to Raymond Terrace.

I was too slow.  :-[

Bit annoying when you miss the phone number in the ad, so you send an email, and 12 hours later you get back "Sold to the first caller"....

*shrugs*

You know where it can find a happy home, AT414. We'll be able to pick it up too... ;)
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 03, 2009, 10:28:16 am
Thanks Paul.  :) Now. That VG 414 you were telling me about.......
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Post by: paul on June 03, 2009, 11:18:43 am
ha ha i carnt afford half off the 414 tooooooooo
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Post by: bigk on June 03, 2009, 11:29:56 am
Saw it very early Ross, but don't need two of them. Let me know if you need any parts.
Cheers,
K
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 03, 2009, 11:58:13 am
Thanks Micheal. Just some spit and polish I think.
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Post by: Freakshow on June 03, 2009, 12:02:29 pm
Same rung all too late.  good luck to you 414.
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Post by: Nathan S on June 03, 2009, 12:09:54 pm
And I've gotta say thanks to Bret and Rob for the heads up. :)
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Post by: maico girl on June 03, 2009, 12:16:56 pm
Yes Mr Ross make g-banger for me out of old chaff bags. three of them......
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Post by: maico girl on June 03, 2009, 01:10:09 pm
gods gift to vmx  MAICO GIRL
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/ozmaico/cid_6D8820D896564D0D8BB429557C53CCF.jpg)
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: Freakshow on June 03, 2009, 03:00:08 pm
yoU SURE THATS A GIRL ?
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Post by: gator on June 03, 2009, 03:50:06 pm
That's ross in drag Freak man :D :D :-\
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Post by: paul on June 03, 2009, 03:55:25 pm
i'll be very interested to see what  maico girl has to say , on the new website lol
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Post by: Hoony on June 03, 2009, 04:05:32 pm
That's ross in drag Freak man :D :D :-\

G Man, don't you mean its "JUST" Ross
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Post by: albrid-3 on June 03, 2009, 05:52:38 pm
No, that`s to any hamburgers :o ;D
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Post by: mx250 on June 03, 2009, 10:13:43 pm
Soooo, what did you get??????? A VR as per pixies or a H6 as per text?

I saw that bike advertised early with a Qld addy.
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 04, 2009, 07:25:50 am
No I got a VR from Brizzy. They've recycled the add to sell the H6 now that's in Newcastle.
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: mx250 on June 04, 2009, 07:53:16 am
Didn't you sell a presentable VR recently????
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 04, 2009, 08:37:33 am
No. A very presentable V 75 (1975). If I wanted to race that bike in Pre 75 I was told I'd have to make the shock mounts the same as VR and I wasn't gunna have a bar of that. So, as nice as the V 75 was, it just wasn't competitive in Pre 78 (for me anyways).
With all the talk of Vr's on here a while ago and after attending some VCM meetings, I decided that if a suitable enough VR turned up, I'd have one.
I think it's gunna be a giggle!  ;)
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Post by: mx250 on June 04, 2009, 09:01:53 am
By description I think you got a good one Ross, and a good price. I would have beaten you to it except I haven't got the readies at the mo ::).
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Post by: mx250 on June 04, 2009, 12:47:12 pm
The pixies of the VR have disappeared and pixies of a H6 have appeared ;) :).

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Montesa-H6_W0QQitemZ280352906684QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item414655ddbc&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: paul on June 04, 2009, 07:44:43 pm
 :D NEWS JUST IN THE TRANSPORT TRUCK HAS GONE OVER CLIFF , JED CLAMPET HAS BEEN ARRESTED AND THE NEW VR IS IN THE RIVER
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: paul on June 04, 2009, 07:49:31 pm
 ross dont worry  granny is trained in scuba rescue :D she rushing to the accident scene  if theres a hope in hell off getting that bike outa the river  she the one who can get the job done
(http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/ozmaico/I-7420Truck20Crash.jpg)
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 04, 2009, 08:04:42 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: paul on June 04, 2009, 08:07:16 pm
that what you get for asking me to get it for you CHEAP lol ;D
stay tuned
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Post by: paul on June 04, 2009, 08:19:03 pm
I WAS IN A HURRY
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Montesa-Capra-250VR_W0QQitemZ250437527347QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item3a4f3d6733&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
I THINK YOU HAVE DONE VERY NICELY
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 04, 2009, 08:32:15 pm
I think they might be aiming a little high.  ::) They had the same bike on there a while ago for about 9.5 Grand!
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: paul on June 04, 2009, 08:36:14 pm
I CARNT REMEMBER HOW MUCH IT WAS LAST TIME  . BUT THE MIGHT BE A MEGA 2 ON THERE TONIGHT 
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 04, 2009, 08:36:51 pm
If it's a VR it ain't too original with the shocks laid forward like that!  :-\ C'mon! I know that is what everone used to do with them in their day but you can hardly descibe it as 'original'  ::)
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Post by: paul on June 04, 2009, 08:42:16 pm
THE SHOCKS DONT EVEN LOOK LIKE THEY ATTACHED AT THE TOP TO THE BIKE
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 04, 2009, 08:48:06 pm
Yeah. Weird. ??? I wonder why there's no pics of the right hand side?....
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: mx250 on June 04, 2009, 10:07:01 pm
Tell him he's dreaming ;D.

If you paid $2000 for yours Ross that's a $550 bike, maybe :P.

I wonder what he means by "This Montesa is not a reproduction its original".  Are they making reproduction Monties? Sign me up 8).
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 05, 2009, 06:50:52 am
Yeah. I'll take half a dozen  ;).........
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Post by: Freakshow on June 05, 2009, 02:47:42 pm
I think they might be aiming a little high.  ::) They had the same bike on there a while ago for about 9.5 Grand!

yep im not sure it had the smash in the rear guard last time or the yellow front guard, me things there has been some swapping out sinbce the last advert. IM a bit suss on this bloke he has sold a few other dogey car deals i the past
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Post by: runutz698 on June 05, 2009, 03:41:34 pm
I am with Freakshow something is a miss,

I am also sick of ebay people putting on there and you start bidding on it and all of a sudden it has gone pulled from auction.

Ebay should make it once it is on there it is on there unless you have good reason you can't pull it off. If  I read advertised elsewhere and I want it I ring them and ask where else it is advertised, they can never tell you..... The best answer is on the board at my local safeway after stutering.

 The whole thinkg is a crock of sh*t, so I think I am going to be one of the ones that starts offering cash before it has finshed ect as it is the only way to buy if you really want something.

Ebay a good place to sell and a sh$t place to buy.
Nutz
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: mx250 on June 05, 2009, 04:09:37 pm

Ebay a good place to sell and a sh$t place to buy.
Nutz
Ebay is a great place to buy. Use a sniper service, figure what you want to pay, use that price, set it, forget it, win some, lose some, move on. ;) 8).

I've been dudded once by a Victorian Monty owner for $150 >:(. It leaves a sour taste but overall I'm ahead ;) :) 

Having said that, bargains on complete bikes seem to be few and far between. Patience and 'buy be ware' ;) :).
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 05, 2009, 04:32:39 pm
If it wasn't for eBay I wouldn't have been able to finish off any of the Montesa's (5) that I've had. If your more worried about what you're spending than what you're getting, well....... ::)
As Graeme says. Set your price. If you get it great, if not, someone wanted it more than you. It's the nature of the beast.
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: paul on June 05, 2009, 04:58:54 pm
too many tire kickers on ebay ,and once the seller see.s that he has 50 people watching his item  ,he naturally think he's in the money so  when you ask or make a offer it will be refused   only to see that it didnt sell any way .and the same item appears  again ,sometimes you can be lucky

Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: maicomc490t on June 05, 2009, 05:33:16 pm
That POS Monty is EXACTLY the same as offered before.

The guy is on drugs I reckon and all  he is doing is putting money in ebays bank account by continuously listing at that price.

Ebay sucks but hey where would we be without it? When I first started out trying to find bikes to play with there were heaps of pricks who would tell you they had a shed-full but you could NEVER get them to sell you one. Now with ebay it's the other way around but maybe more expensive but that is a free market economy at work.

Other part is you meet some really good people on ebay and you also encounter some full on arseholes - like life I guess.

No CD6 for me

See some of you at Clarence

Dave Mac  :D
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: runutz698 on June 06, 2009, 07:36:42 am
I am a big swap meet goer, I must say that is the place to get a good buy. I am not saying I don't buy things on ebay.

What I was trying to point out is that the way in which you can pull things off should be baned as once it is on ebay it is in a legal auction, you can't just pull sh*t out at a real auction so why should you be able to do it a online auction. Once you have won the item it is a legal binding document. All this advertised else where and pulling it off with a day to go, or pulling it off as someone has offered them money straight up for it is crap. That is the only thing that is really getting to me here is a prime example.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/honda-cr-250-1983-old-school_W0QQitemZ270397814136QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item3ef4f73578&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I do purchasing for a living and if you are willing to do the leg work there are lots of bargins.
My belief is that if you are willing to wait you will get a bargin if you want it tomoro you will pay.
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Post by: maico girl on June 06, 2009, 08:40:51 am

What I was trying to point out is that the way in which you can pull things off.
you have Maico Girl full attention.......

you can't just pull at a real auction so why should you be able to do it a online auction.
My brother always doing this and he end up with community base order and no allowed near schools or parks anymore!

or pulling it off as someone has offered them money straight up is crap.
yes I believe you should get to know someone a little better first. Never on first date.....

Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: paul on June 06, 2009, 09:15:07 am
i some time go to the sherrif auction to check out what they have seized from the local drug dealers ,amoung other stuff that they have seized for some type off no payment  /and at any time the phone can ring and a item can be with drawn so that is CRAP  THAT ONCE A AUCTION STARTS IT CARNT BE WITH DRAWN POEPLE CAN CHANGE THEY MINDS OR CIRCUMSTANTES CHANGE 
BOB JANE HAS OLD TYERS AVAIL FOR TYER KICKER
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: maicomc490t on June 06, 2009, 01:11:41 pm
I'm in agreement with both sides

If you own it YOU have a right to withdraw it and as Paul says it is commonplace to attend an auction to be told the item is no longer available - generally no reason given.

Ebay is a bit different because once an auction starts at a given price then it is underway and both parties have in theory entered into a deal.

If the seller is one of the bullshit types who just want to play with the market - kick em off ebay. If not it is simple for them - they either offer the item at a price they are going to be happy with no matter what or PUT A RESERVE on it.

If the item has no bids - ie no poor sod thinking he or she may have a chance at acquiring the item, then the seller can withdraw it any time.

What shits me is when the auction has started WITH BIDS PLACED and the arseholes take it off. What the hell did they list it for in the first place? If it is to get an idea of price for example then they obviously are dumb enough not to know the market. If it is just to show the world they have something no one else can have then they have a serious problem!

As for swap meets I thought they were dying somewhat due to the intrusion of ebay - I'd be interested to know more.

Two sides of the argument here

Dave Mac  :D  :D  :D - even if I am stuck in Sydney and a whole lot of lucky bastards are at CD6 !!! 
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: 490dale on June 17, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
dear mr allthings 414 a freind told me that now the price of scrapmetal has droped, you will see a lot more montessa's on the market 4 sale.
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Post by: montynut on June 17, 2009, 11:36:51 pm
If you are going to rip someone off 490dale it helps if you at least spell the principle words correctly ::) :-[. It tends to make you appear at least creditable ;) :D. Montessa indeed, I surpose you own Maicccos or Yamahhhas ;D ;D ;).

Oh sorry you may a have typing impediment if that is the case please accept my apologise. Possibly type more slowly and image all forum members are naked  :o. Oops thats for speech impediments not typing  :-\.


 :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 18, 2009, 07:26:44 am
Give it to him Montynut! This guy and his girlfriends (Pluv and Gator) have been more of an annoyance to me over the years than the Good 'ol Boys could ever hope to be!

*I picked up my VR yesterday. It's in unbelievable condition and I can't believe I only paid two grand for it!  ;D
Now. How many bikes do I need before I too can become a true 'enthusiast'.......... :-*
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Post by: firko on June 18, 2009, 09:01:06 am
Quote
This guy and his girlfriends (Pluv and Gator) have been more of an annoyance to me over the years than the Good 'ol Boys could ever hope to be!
Shit....We'll have to pick up the pace then. ;D
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Post by: AjayVMX on June 18, 2009, 09:03:38 am
If you are going to rip someone off 490dale it helps if you at least spell the principle words correctly ::) :-[. It tends to make you appear at least creditable ;) :D. Montessa indeed, I surpose you own Maicccos or Yamahhhas ;D ;D ;).

Oh sorry you may a have typing impediment if that is the case please accept my apologise. Possibly type more slowly and image all forum members are naked  :o. Oops thats for speech impediments not typing  :-\.


 :D ;D ;)

Ok Montynut - 10 minutes in the bin for Smiley Abuse.  :o
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: gator on June 18, 2009, 09:15:17 am
That's it Firko have you got a baseball bat :o
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Post by: paul on June 18, 2009, 09:19:49 am
im glad to see some more friendly banter  is about to  begin  . ::)
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Post by: VMX247 on June 18, 2009, 09:49:29 am
some people just have no self discipline  ;)   ;D
cheers
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Post by: shorelinemc on June 18, 2009, 11:58:25 am
Re ebay pulling sales.I do a lot on ebay mostly sales ,if some one offers me a fair price on what i have  i will withdraw the auction-mostly to bypass fees.tho if they is a bid i will let the auction run as i start mine at what the lowest amount i will take.I have missed stuff i was bidding on when it has been withdrawn but thats the way it goes works the other way too.I have just bought 2 rm370 offered a price  and the seller accepted
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Post by: bigk on June 18, 2009, 12:09:54 pm
Wondered who snapped them up.
Cheers,
K
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Post by: firko on June 18, 2009, 12:36:13 pm
Jonesy recently bid on and won an eBay auction for a Redline framed Triumph Bonneville road bike located in Coffs Harbour for $6900. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220412443166&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220412443166&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123)After the auction he went through the normal process to setup paying for the bike via PayPal but couldn't get a reply from the seller. After numerous phone messages and emails he recieved the following reply...........
rwilly my boy u flogged on 2long pal shes gone home to good old usa n i got 10grand usa 4her lol
Translation: "Willy (part of Als eBay name) you waited too long and I sold it to someone in the USA for 10k LOL".

Naturally Alan was pissed off and decided to go through the eBay complaint process. eBay responded that they would take action by banning the seller from future transactions. Big f#*king deal, he was a newbie with no previous transactions so he got off scott free! What about all of the crap they tell you about transactions being legal contracts etcetera. It's all bullshit.
I once had a no reserve auction Cheney Yamaha pulled with only seconds to go when I was the top bidder by a couple of thousand dollars. He replied that he wanted more for the bike than I was about to get it for. I replied that he should have had a reserve if he wanted X amount and he told me basically to f**k off. I reported him to eBay but nothing ever came of it.

I believe that many dodgy sellers are using eBay purely to advertise their items to an open market. The little statement "this item is listed elsewhere and may be withdrawn without notice" is an open invitation to make an off eBay offer. I now avoid items with that little copout clause.
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Post by: mx250 on June 18, 2009, 01:07:11 pm
Yeah, sometimes you really want to be able to jump through the scene and sort these people out ::).

I'm currently waiting on an item from Albury - getting to the panic stage :o - no responses etc.
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: gator on June 18, 2009, 03:53:46 pm
Wasp who's this dale guy ???
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 18, 2009, 06:14:32 pm
dear mr allthings 414 a freind told me that now the price of scrapmetal has droped, you will see a lot more montessa's on the market 4 sale.


There is only one IT 490 fan I know in Ballarat . Hi Dale welcome to the forum.

Yes believe it or not there's people out there who make my life more miserable than anyone around here can. These guys just love to have "cracker night", outside my place, usually about three in the morning whenever I'm going to a race the next day.
Dale however is right up there with best of them when it comes to engines and suspension. Many a local hot-shot has had his bike parked in his shed at some stage or another and he's currently building a 'killer' YZ 490 which I'm sure will explode a few of the myths surrounding the marque.
Pretty handy out on the track as well......... :o

* Started that VR tonight. NICE!  ;D
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: gator on June 18, 2009, 06:53:51 pm
Are you talking about me ross HOT-SHOT ::)
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: All Things 414 on June 18, 2009, 07:06:17 pm
No. Guys that can get at least five laps in before busting themselves up...... ::)
Title: Re: Can't believe.......
Post by: gator on June 19, 2009, 08:58:32 am
OK :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(