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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: number8 on May 25, 2009, 04:36:21 pm
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Is there any interest in trying to dig up some other past riders in particular Qld based but obviously all would and,should be welcomed,to offer them an invitation to CD6 there's a lot of great riders and stories out there that are over looked these days and would be very entertaining,and it would be good to see some of these older guys make an appearance from all previous era's just a thought and there's a good chance somebody knows somebody that was involved from years gone by I personally have not been to a CD before and will be attending my first,it just seems like am ideal time to try and bring these guys together,some of of them would not be aware that this event actually exist if they are no longer involved,What are your guys thoughts.
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Hey Number 8,
Based on the programme that I have just done the following riders should be putting in an appearance for the Legends Laps:
Anthony Gunter, Stephen Gall, Geoff Ballard, Porky Eldridge, Laurie Alderton, Geoff Udy, Chris Dixon, David Armstrong, Andrew Bailey, Peter Melton and Mark Pace.
And lastly, it is a distinct possibility that legendary Kiwi Peter Ploen could be in attendance. Heres hoping, I saw him in NZ last year and he is still WFO/sideways everywhere and still with that great smile.
And there could be others who haven't confirmed yet. Spread the word, the more the merrier!!
Looking good,
VMX42
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They are all great riders and You have a ton of other great riders and relevent people that are worthy and are real handy,These are just a handfull that come to mind,Peter Boyle,John Walmsley,Stan Venstra,Sam Kendall,Steve Dinsdale,John Hand,Graham Sword,Dave Burns,Don Newell,Vern Grayson,Tommy Gibson,Matt Daly,I believe John Harrison the original Husqvarna Importer for Australia,was/is on the Gold Coast,and at one stage Ivan Miller was on the Gold Coast?I am sure Johhny O could add quite a few more than I can remember,lets have some input
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brian flemming will be there
and glen bell should make an appearance
a lot of guys might just even turn up
for a look don and vern will probably go
be good to see them on a bike
havnt seen vern ride for a while
cheers rusty ;D
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We've been trying to get Vern Grayson and the famous Cheney Triumph to come out and will give him another ring tomorrow. Per Klitland usually comes with us but he's unable to come this year. Not sure about Jens Olsen either.
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Thats great to here of those names,an official shout out/salute to those guys would be in the spirit of the event I would think,
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We've been doing that since the event started #8. Meeting the old fast guys is one of the highlights of the Classic Dirt concept.
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Saw John Hand and Stevy Dinsdale last weekend at the Gum Valley Round of the Aust MX Nationals. John owns the track and is very supportive of the vintage movement. He contacted me about a vintage bike display to be in the "trade" alley at the MX. We took along a 250 BSA, 250 Greeves, 125 Wassesl, 71'400 Square barrel maico, 74 SC500 Yammie and an early 80 500cc Suzy sidecar from the Mackay and Moranbah boys. Had a great day getting both lots of interst and many younguns pointing and laughing (Gen Y what can I say!) I assisted John re-start up the track with a club a few years back and as we wanted to make it inclusive and not dominated by the fluro set it is officailly named the Gum Valley Natural Terrain and Veterans MX Club. John is very intersted at some time in holding either a Qld or Aust Championships and would provide an excellent track and camping facilities. John's son Michael is doing very well at Enduros while Steven's boy Joel it right up amongst it in the 85s but both of those plus Sugar cane related work are taking up their fair share of time. Both would have been probably really intersted if we gave them an invite with plenty of time to prganise. perhaps a thought for next time. Last I saw of Handy on Sunday was whizzing off home on the boys 250 totally sideways with the front end crossed up in the air. shows that all skills don't diminish after quite a few amber cordials.
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Rosco86,
I have raced at Gum Valley back in the day and its one of the better tracks thats for sure ,the point that I was trying to make originally was based on how a lot of different disciplines both here and overseas do seem to have a lot more interest in there past riders/racers,and the events that are put on to give them a salute are great and it would be good to see a similar thing evolve here for former scramble/motocross racers,hell even dirt trackers for that matter,an invite to guys like you mentioned and others would be pretty well received I would have thought?
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Hey Number 8,
I think everybody is saying the same thing. Yes, it is always fun to have past racers and personalities at VMX events.
As for CD6, Ken casts his net as wide as he can, but realistically he only knows so many riders [and our 47 researchers and assistants are always busy catering to his incessant demands to be of much help]. So if anybody else is in contact with other riders/racers/personalities that we have not mentioned, by all means contact them and invite them along. The more the merrier.
If the network pulls together who knows how many past greats might attend.
So if you know of a past great who isn't aware of CD6, give them a call and pass on the details. Make sure you tell them that they will be more than welcome.
As I said, don't be shy, make the calls and let's see how many you can dig up!!
VMX42
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Vmx24,
Thats fine,however there is a difference between a bloke ringing up a friend/mate and saying it's on you would be welcome,and an invite from the actual organizers of the event,and from a promotional aspect every bit could help,As an example do think when the "Brad Lackey" invitational was on the organizers just told a few blokes to ring a few mates?
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Hi Number 8 - Jeff has chipped in with some worthwhile ideas and I'll chime in with another. As Jeff mentioned, I don't have the phone numbers or addresses of every rider you mentioned. If you do, then please give them to me either by phone on 02 9452 1444 or via PM and NEXT year I'll do all I can to get them along. Asking them a week out from the event just doesn't seem all that professional to me. If anyone can get them along to this year anyway, then well and good and of course they will be welcomed with open arms.
Regards
Ken Smith
VMX Magazine
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Ken,
While I don't personally have the phone numbers of each of the people I have mentioned,It sounds like a great idea to perhaps plan for the next one with a reasonable lead up I am sure a healthy turn out of past competitors would be possible and a real tribute to receive an official invite to the "Legends Laps"
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TM Bill,
Are you refering to me with that comment?
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;D ;D ;D
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Hey Number 8,
I just read your reply and it might just be my imagination, but it seems there was an underlying tone suggesting that there wasn't a well considered PLAN to invite past guns to CD6? I can assure you that isn't true!!!
I am sure your comments were well intentioned but I can assure you that Ken has spent months and months of his time working on the details of CD6. If he didn't take on this enormous additional workload then the Classic Dirt format would have perished with Ray and the VMX community wouldn't have this feature event to enjoy.
Ray envisaged Classic Dirt as an event for the VMX Community and saw it as a responsibility of the magazine to promote the sport it reflected. It will never cover come close to covering the costs of the time that people put into it and the event is promoted for only the RIGHT reasons. All constructive suggestions are always welcome, as it is really YOUR event, but it is unrealistic to make demands [or strong suggestions] one week out from the event.
I will reiterate the call for all OzVMXers [and/or VMX readers] to heed the call to come forward with contact details for any and all Legends for CD7. Or in fact with any other constructive ideas to improve the event. A simple email or phone call could result in an improvement for all participants.
I also believe that over the course of the weekend that you should make the effort to tip your hat to Ken and Ajay and say a quick thanks for all their work. Also make time to do the same to all the event sponsors because I can assure you that it is only with their continued support that the event exists.
I'm not having a go at you, and I sincerly hope you love the event and come along to all future Classic Dirt events.
See you there,
thanks
VMX42
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VMX42
It was your imagination,I am familiar with what is involved in running an event,from all aspects and I do believe that the intention of the event is for the RIGHT reasons also.My initial post ask "What are your guys thoughts" at no time have I been critical of the event or it's organizers,You a drawing a long bow when you state that I am "demanding or strong suggesting"
I lift my hat to any body involved in producing an event of any description in Motorcycle sport as I have mentioned earlier I have had my share of involvement at all levels and even in the sponsorship stakes,Your preaching to some one that has done it,I am not interested in getting into a dick stretching contest with you as I believe your acting just a bit to sensitively to a post that was generated to get input and some thoughts more along the lines of
"constructive suggestions" It certainly sounds like you are having a go at me,One more thing even a week out from the event it would be possible to make contact with some of these guys I am sure that they would be chuffed to get the invite wether they could get there this year or not
#8
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I think what the guys are trying to say No 8 is that what you are suggesting is already in place & always has been for Classic Dirt.
Their will always be a "new" old Name that comes to mind & if so then please forward the info to VMX Mag.
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Hey Number 8.
That's great. Always happy to be wrong.
See you in a week.
VMX42
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Just by way of a clarification - we do actually cast the next as wide as possible for VMX Legends to attend Classic Dirt.
This process happens months before the event is to take place. Unfortunately, many can't make it (for a multitude of reasons) and some don't even reply. :(
As VMX42 indicated, if there are Legends out there that want to come (and they should be genuine legends of course) please provide details directly to Ken, although it is now very late to get it organised for CD6 and this may prove difficult. :-\
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I just returned from riding my 69 Husky 360 in the first riding session and there was a guy and his wife looking at my 67 360 Viking, we got chatting away and i asked what his name was, the answer was Matt Daley. He and his lovely wife June arrived for a look at 10.30, I dont know how they knew about CD 6, i think it was a spur of the moment decision for both of them to attend CD 6.
I asked him if he would like to take part in the Legends display laps, he said he didnt have any riding gear or bike and wasn't all that keen on making a fuss. I raced over to the VMX tent and spoke to Ken, AJ and Jeff they could not have been more helpfull in arranging for Matt to be included in the Legends session. I offered him my bike, shirt, boots, Ken lent him his helment, and Tim (maicopunk) lent him the riding pants, so with a little organisation we had him kitted out ready to ride. It was by no means planned and the VMX guys handled it perfectly.
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In amongst everything else, I'd just like to say what a top bloke Peter Ploen is! I didn't know much about him before the weekend. For a not-so-young bloke he rode damn fast, was incredibly enthusiastic and, after watching him ride on the Sunday, I later saw him chatting to the bloke who was camped next to me (we were right up on the hill). He just seems to have a sincere love of old bikes and is a very generous person.
Watching the Legends laps were a highlight for me. I'd be happy for every Classic Dirt to be like that was.
Jimmy
ps; can I give a special mention to the hot showers - excellent!