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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: jhovel on May 06, 2009, 08:21:59 pm
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Anyone watching 'New Inventors' tonight? I like the bike tie-downs!
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Yep ,just watched it here in WA...
Have seen this style before and thought twice with the $100 plus price tag (higher than usual tie downs). 8)
This design is alot easier for your girl to handle than the older style tie downs,
When you are flogged out :P from a hard days ride on your bike :o .............
well with equal opportunity's and all. ;)
450 kilo load is also a good size weight-hold a nice round bail of meadow hay. ;D
cheers
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Can we have a description? I've no idea as I missed the show.
For $100 I'm expecting lights, bells and whistles!
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To watch the video, go to: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2557435.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2557435.htm)
To see details on the makers's website go to: http://www.kyaracing.com.au/ (http://www.kyaracing.com.au/)
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Thanks for the link jhovel. They look familiar. I'm dead certain they appear on another thread in this forum.
Someone explained how and why they work when seemingly 'nothing' is holding down the bike.
As stated, I didn't see the show but are they any different to those on the market for a quite a while?
Or has it just taken a long time for them to appear on 'New Inventors'?
Great idea, but I couldn't justify the price tag for my arsenal.
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yes now you reminded me Wombat---in the old thread they got called bike bras/bras for bikes...the straps go across the back wheel only---bit more of a g-string look to me ;) :o
cheers
ps Wombat don't bother too much about doing a search on ozvmx for Bra cause all I found was:
brass
brand
brake
brackets
braaaaaaaap
brain
bragging
bravo and the last one Brad :D
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yerp seen that style before and they do work.Made one from a piece or round stock and a pair of old tie downs. didnt cost me even half of a hungy
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ps Wombat don't bother too much about doing a search on ozvmx for Bra cause all I found was:
Thanks for the tip Alison.
I tried it in Google images and flickr instead - Got some excellent results. Ya gotta love computers! ;) :D ;D
Sorry, back on thread now. Don't judge me...
Good work pokey. It does look a simple design. To limit the squash on the fork springs I use a cut-off piece of plastic downpipe between the front tyre and the mudguard.
Works for me:
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With the newish system the front end would need to be cradled or tied as we feel the front could maybe do a bit of moving. 8)
cheers
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tis is another reason I like vans, the bikes can't fall out ;D well they could but you'd need to be barrel rolling down a mountainside or something dumb like leaving the door open :-X
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tis is another reason I like vans, the bikes can't fall out ;D well they could but you'd need to be barrel rolling down a mountainside or something dumb like leaving the door open :-X
you been watching too many Starky and Hutch movies ;D :D ;D
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and you haven't been to Connondale yet ;) :D
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tis is another reason I like vans, the bikes can't fall out ;D well they could but you'd need to be barrel rolling down a mountainside or something dumb like leaving the door open :-X
A bike not tied down properly in a van can fall over and damage both the bike and the van :P. May not fall far, may not fall out but it can fall over.
As the old saying goes; a fool and his motorcycle are soon parted ::) ;D.
I like the new tie downs. A bit ex'y :P. But to tie down and immobilise the wheel is the way to go - more stable, more reliable (no bounce, no undoing) and not stressing the suspension components.
Still have the age old problem of tie down straps - they get tangled in storage and are a shit fight to get out and use. At least these have halved the prob :).
I have thought of the same solution some time ago but I was thinking of turnbuckles to apply the tension. DIY could be done with turnbuckles a lot cheaper than the racket.
When I build me dream trailer for all my dream bikes ;D I might get around to DIY turnbuckle tie downs, with tyre wells ;).
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not if you pack them properly MX ;)
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Nicely demonstrates the other big disadvantage of a van :o ::) :P.
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They seem like a good idea but tying a bike down at a low point on the bike doesn't seem right as it puts more weight / leverage on the straps.
To stabilise anything it's more logical to attach support to the top of the structure not half way down
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what's the other big dissadvantage you speak of MX? :P my bikes stay dry, they stay upright and unless someone takes the van and everything they are pretty safe when you need to stop at Macca's for refueling and as you can see, 1 rope holds 3 bikes ;D
Seriously I agree GMC. The more leverage the less energy required. Never blown seals or done any other sort of other damage people claim except the scratching on the bars using conventional tiedowns ;) If your worried about your fork springs/air pressure then put something between the wheel and the under side of the guard. It's not rocket science and you don't need a million bucks :)
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Heaps cheaper and just not sure who came up with the concept first but for the money I reckon these are OK. At least the back wheel wouldn't jump around !!! $18.20 each to your door leaves a lot of spare cash for tiedowns and a fork brace.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Wheel-Web-Speed-Strap-Tie-down-KTM-Honda-Yamaha-Suzuki_W0QQitemZ320366964038QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320366964038&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Anyone up for a road test?
I bought some of his shorter straps and they are fine by me - good quality and the flouro pink shouldn't disappear in long grass.
I still feel funny about their way of tying in a dirt bike. It may work on a short arse road bike but a tall MXer or trailie ?
Dave Mac :D
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Heaps cheaper and just not sure who came up with the concept first but for the money I reckon these are OK. At least the back wheel wouldn't jump around !!! $18.20 each to your door leaves a lot of spare cash for tiedowns and a fork brace.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Wheel-Web-Speed-Strap-Tie-down-KTM-Honda-Yamaha-Suzuki_W0QQitemZ320366964038QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item320366964038&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
The stated purpose of these is different; they are intended to locate the rear tyre/wheel and hold it steady. If you look at the pixie it has the front in a tyre well and apparently tied down with tie downs. The wheel web is held by occy straps.
I think it could be adapted but it doesn't come with any means to tension it so its $18 plus two tie downs - not much off the first one :P. And you have an even bigger tangle of webbing to store and untangle::).
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What I did note when tying to the wheel was the bike was held fine but it was a wee bit wobblier than usual.
Am unsure if thats what we need to get use to or a fault but I did drag that load for 1200k and it didnt move at all.. Noo.. I lie, it did as I took a Very windy road (shoot me, its 2nd flat shift 3rd flat shift 2nd brake for 20k Up a wet mountain) but i did check the load every stop.
funny seeing your load move a bit in the rear vision mirror.
It did tuck in a little and I guess thats to be expected.
sort of holding a bucket of water at arms length or close to your chest.
With this system you are relying on the suspension to carry the forces and keeping the tyre encapsulated . if you dont have3 racks for the tyre then its gonna move sideways on a long haul