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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: Nathan S on April 11, 2009, 10:29:29 pm

Title: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Nathan S on April 11, 2009, 10:29:29 pm
Anyone done it?

Which part # did you use?

Did you need to change springs afterward?

Anything else?
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: LWC82PE on April 11, 2009, 10:33:05 pm
if your talking about the race tech ones then they have a dimensions sheet on their website. you just need to look for the one that fits the ID of the fork tube, fits in the ID of the recess in the top of the damper rod and also to check that the ID of your fork spring fits over the ports in the emulator. if you cant find one that fits on/in your damper rod then you may need to make a alloy spacer/adapter. The info on their website expalians that.
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Nathan S on April 11, 2009, 10:49:31 pm
I was kinda hoping to avoid doing the research... Hoping someone would say "Yep, YSS part #xxx goes straight, after you drill the hole out to 10mm" or something like that.
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on April 11, 2009, 10:59:39 pm
Drop Nigel at MRN racing in Perth a call - he is YSS in Perth - he has just done my YZB forks and they were 34mm I think? MRN Racing ( Nigel)  15 Newington street  Morley 6062    0423352 620


Alternatively I am home in a couple of weeks and can let you know the details?

cheers

Rossco
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Oggy Doggy on April 11, 2009, 11:54:19 pm
I'm also curious myself for the 34mm forks on my DT1 project. I'd rather use YSS to support someone who supports us rather than using Race Tech Gold valves if possible Leith. What's the guff on 34mm Yammy forks Walter?
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: BETRIC on April 12, 2009, 12:05:21 am
Nathan I had Les Richters fit a set of YSS PD valves to my MX360, he made some spacers up and I supplied a set of DT250 springs as they are 25mm shorter than the stock MX springs, I am very happy with the result, it's near perfect for me, not so harsh on comp now, Les would have the specs he used on my forks ;D   
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: LWC82PE on April 12, 2009, 01:36:20 am
thats ok Oggy Doggy, i just thought when Nathan said emulators he ment race tech brand. if he said PD valve then i would have known he ment YSS. Also just to make you aware, Race Tech now support vintage racing and do have a vintage product range that is growing. The local outlet in australia is http://www.shocktreatment.com.au/ so it doesnt really matter what brand you buy, as long as you buy it here, you will be supporting Australian business' eitherway ;D
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Nathan S on April 12, 2009, 09:03:32 am
Interesting semantics.

I used the word emulator, because I figured that it would be the generic name for something at emulates a cartridge internal, whereas I figured "PD Valve" sounded a lot more like a specific name for a specific brand's product.
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: mboddy on April 12, 2009, 10:01:51 am
Sorry Walter, but you were a size too big for my forks and may also be for Nathans.
It depends on the fork wall thickness. And these older forks often have thicker walls.
I needed to use the PD265 in my IT175F 36mm forks.
I reckon you will need the PD238, but like Walter said you should measure the damper rod piston diameter first.
See my posting on the IT forum about fitting these to the IT175F forks:
http://www.yamahait.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,1428.0.html (http://www.yamahait.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,1428.0.html)   
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Freakshow on April 14, 2009, 11:11:57 am
Nat i got the part number for the Gold valves if needed, still have the Box and the 25 RAce Tech stickers it came with .

HAd them in the MX 250 fitted straight in, currently they are in the TM but Pete Hoey turned up a spacer in relief, and we also drop the spring by 38mm from memory, not that thats important cause its the Suzi, but im pretty sure the ID, OD and stuff was bang on for the YAmaha and it just went in and i preferred it without the spring trim as it give a nice pressure on the cap for preload.

Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: mboddy on April 14, 2009, 06:28:14 pm
Nat i got the part number for the Gold valves if needed

What is it please?
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: Freakshow on April 14, 2009, 11:00:18 pm
I dont have the packet at this house in town, but i think it was made into a kit "the FEGV 3004 " and that kit should also come with the spacer and ring clip in the KIt.

also think its the same valve as the RD's but i know that after we got some measurement and phone time in with martin, he sent spacer lifter etc to make it all fit sweet , they now sell it as the kit  for the KYB34c just do a search on that kit or speak to pete Hoey on here, he can order that kit in , i know i saw his front office staff open a big box that came in the other day full of valve sets from the USA when i picked up my YZF forks after a little seal service  :'( 

they used to be about $140 usd Direct a while back, but probally the kit would be $199 ? by now  :(

Support Aussie service industries :D  http://www.hoeyracing.com/
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: LWC82PE on April 14, 2009, 11:40:00 pm
yep FEGV3004 is the one. pays to shop around for better prices rather than direct from RT. look for discounters/bulk buyers on ebay.
http://old.racetech.com/evalving/english/Srchpr.asp?bikeid=1731&manufacture=Yamaha&model=MX250&year=1974&TABLEINFO=dirt&langname=english
Title: Re: Cartridge Emulators in Yamaha 34mm forks.
Post by: mboddy on April 15, 2009, 12:11:28 am
A FEGV3004 is the same size as a PD238.