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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Hoony on September 27, 2007, 07:01:33 pm
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What year is a RM500 D?
is this the last model of the Big bore RM's and did it have a disc front brake?
Please help Doc.
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dont know the year but
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/ibop/1983_RM250-500_cat-page_900.jpg)
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An RM500D is an '83 model, first year of the 500's. The disc brake is the '85 model, the last 500 suzuki made.
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An RM500D is an '83 model, first year of the 500's. The disc brake is the '85 model, the last 500 suzuki made.
Except for the LT500R "Quadzilla" an engine that should have been put in a two wheeler >:(
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Yeah you're right. Wasn't that quad motor watercooled?
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thanks guys. and great pics Paul.
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you gunna buy that RM500 hoony...... ;D by the way did you get my email i sent you the other day of that yz500 pic......
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i reckon ive found evidence of works 500 suzukis that were water cooled. found it a little while back in a book, its very interesting. i will have to get the pictures on here! and see what you think. they are pictures of a period 500cc mid 80's race in UK or europe. the radiators, side number plates etc do not look like any other RM! the side number plates look like RN plates and same/similar to other works bikes like the Lackey bike. i was pretty shocked when i saw the pics.
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andre vromans rode a watercooled rm 500 for part of the season in 1984 so i would say there would be some out there still the picture that was on the last forum is a possibility but i think the works bike had bigger radiators 8) luv to have one :P
it ran last time i started it ;D
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this one was for sale in vic awhile ago mabee its this bike ;D
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g120/ibop/DSCF1035.jpg)
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that 500 pictured came from tassie a year or so ago,I did the motor,forks and laced the wheels,colour of wheels gave it away. the owner sold it for way under his costs
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Ok this is what I’ve found in the book Trail bikes & Motorcross ISBN 0-86272-416-3
There are several different photos throughout the book at different locations around the same track
These ones are the first corner of a Camel motorcross race and the only one showing Suzukis
I date the race to be around 83 or 84
Black numbers on yellow plates means 500cc race
Rider 63 is riding a CR 500. I can clearly see this on a side on shot elsewhere in the book. Also I have identified several other 500 cc bikes such as KTM 495 and Husky 500 so I could safely say it’s a 500cc race.
I think it’s in Europe somewhere as a lot of people are wearing M.Robert and Sinisalo gear and many bikes have Renthal bars and Acerbis front fenders. In some shots I could read the riders names on the back of their pants and they are German or European names.
The bike we’re looking at is bike number 2 which is second into the corner. Looks to be water cooled, looks as if the pipe bends back behind a radiator. Also has vented front plate. I think bike 2 and 12 are the same bikes if you compare the side plates. They have something written on the seat but I can’t read it. They look like works style Suzuki plates. Also bike 9 (air cooled) seems to have works style number plates. Ive looked at normal RMs and the mounting holes are in different locations.
Preston Petty Tony D front fenders on these suzuki’s also indicate these are most likely works bikes.
So that’s what I’ve found. I’m pretty confident bike 2 is a water cooled works 500 Suzuki RN. I’m sure someone out there can tell us exactly who riders 2, 12 and 9 are!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/1259.JPG)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/1259-COPY.JPG)
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me again stuffed up the year it was 1983 number 2 is andre vromans number 9 is jean jacques bruno and 12 could be either harry everts or gerard rond or yvan van den broeck take your pick they all rode for suzuki in 83 they had a strong team as you can see by the first turn picture andre has the watercooled rn500 not sure how many were made but there would have been at least 2 number 9 and 12 are on factory rn83s its a pity brad lackey did not ride the works suzuki andre had in 83 8) he would have smoked em ;D
it ran last time i started it ;D
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Guys,
Number 2 Vromans and (12) Harry Everts rode the watercooled 500's in the later part of the 83 season.I have a video of the final round when Carlquist won the championship and theres some great footage of the Everts bike and Vromans racing his at the front.I suspect they ended up being crushed or sent back to Japan,but perhasp some of our international contacts could help.PS the last 500 was 1985 the mighty F model.
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Here Is RM500 F
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Here's Ray Vendenberg's in '83.
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Nice shot at ACUSA park Tony.
i knew a bloke (Steven Breese) that raced that the year after Vandenburg had it and it was a weapon, Trevor Flood really worked that over, Goof was very strong to hold onto that thing, he was only a lightweight then.
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thats great you guys knew the riders in the photos!. ive also got a sales brochure of the 85 RM 500. i put it on the old forum. i wonder if that guy who has all those works bikes that are being featured in VMX would have one of the watercooled 500"s. there could be one sitting in a shed in europe somewhere. it would be good if one still existed and we could see a feature on one in VMX
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hey hoony rays bikes were very quick and set up very well i used to ride with ray a lot and i purchased his 1982 rm490 which had all the go gear twin air box ohlins shock white power fork internals twin leader front brake tmv pipe and muffler adjustable rear struts etc etc plus everything drilled out the bike was a jet got me into b grade very quick wish i still had it when i work out how to post piccys i will put some good ones on ;D
also in 1983 everts came fourth on the watercooled rn500 vromans came sixth bruno came eighth and van den broeck came ninth not a bad effort for there last year in gp,s 8)
it ran last time i started it
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that would be good if you could post some photos on here Holeshot. i like early 80's suzukis with the euro gear like WP, TMV twin air etc. Trevor Flood used to bring it all in. ive got a few ads with tricked up TS-X 250's with all the gear from 'gasssit motorcycles' ( think that was the name)
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yeah it was called gassit motorcycles Trevor used to build race bikes for the public 125 250 500s they were like a phase 1 2 and 3 the1 had ported barrel white power spring white power fork kits ,the 2 had twin air box ported (a bit more ) white power shock fork kit tmv muffler adj rear struts , the 3 had more porting again reeds stroked motor on 500 s white power shock tmv full system twin air box adj struts differant carb simons usd forks billet triples and anything else they could find it was basically a vandenberg replica for sale to the public but at the time they were expensive i do not think they sold too many of the 3s i may have forgotten some of the extras they used it was 24 years ago they also had safety seats very trick bikes would not knock back a phase 3 500 mmmmmm :P :P :P :P :P
will try to post some photos in the future
it ran last time i started it ;D
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heres some DG struts. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-Rm-125-250-400-465-DG-Strut-1982-1981-1983-1984_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35581QQihZ008QQitemZ180165856206QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
you can always email someone like myself your pics and i will put them up here for all to see.
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(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2007-4/1252864/Vromans500Suzuki.jpg.jpg)
I know that this thread is really old & most of the images have been deleted , but I saw this picture of Vromans watercooled 500 works bike on the MXTRAX.UK website & remembered someone was asking about it a while back .
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wow, all you really need is a 250 roller and Quadzila motor and the thing almost assembles itself.
Just picked up WP shock for my 500, might actually get it together to ride it at some point.
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Doesn't the quadzilla motor have a counterbalancer shaft in it though ? I would think that this would make it hard to fit into a 250 chassis as the 500 crankcases would have to be a bit bigger .
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depends on your definition of hard. hell counter balancer has got to be good thing and Suzuki must have done something with that water cooled 500 R&D, like built a motor for a quad.
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since this topic has taken off again i will see if i can put my pics back up again
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cool i am going to buy a scanner and post some great shots ;D
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i just found a picture in a french magazine with Georges Jobes ( i hope i got his name right) on some sort of works watercooled suzuki in 82 along with an interview with him. it might be a 250 im not sure. i will scan it tomorrow. you find good stuff in french magazines.
also found an interview/article with kent howerton in a french magazine.
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not sure what this is but i think its a works bike. its from about 1982 i think and its Georges Jobe
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-6/1192012/1257.JPG)
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just put my 2 photos back on the first page of this topic :)
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Do we know where the six "F" models are that were bought into Aust ??
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Check out this beauty.....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-RM-500-not-CR480-YZ465-/280533923313?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item41511ff5f1
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Check out this beauty.....
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-RM-500-not-CR480-YZ465-/280533923313?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item41511ff5f1
What a beast. Someone has done a fair amount of work, later swing arm with no floater struts and disk brakes. Probably be not a bad bike all fixed up but obviously not pre 85 anymore.