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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Loydee on March 17, 2009, 01:03:12 am

Title: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: Loydee on March 17, 2009, 01:03:12 am

Hi there have a TS185 ERwith starting issues. I've never had it start normally with a kick, only when I chucked some fuel down the plug hole. Took to an engineer mate for analysis who's a right big fella and he could kick it up within 3/4 kicks. Short of taking steroids whats the solution ;D. I think the bike is "borderline" in some area. The compression reads 100psi (throttle WFO) isn't this kinda on the lower limit?
Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: cyclegod on March 17, 2009, 02:46:55 am

I bought a second hand ER some years back with 7000 k's on the clock and It would take 20-30 kicks to fire up. I bought a carb kit on eBay, stripped the carb and soaked it in acryllic thinners for a few hours, reassembled it and it became a 2-3 kick starter from then on.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUKI-TS185-DS250-KEYSTER-CARB-KIT-1980-1981_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35597QQihZ012QQitemZ220370556011QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: Loydee on March 17, 2009, 04:02:48 am

Yes, have stripped the carb and blown through passages.Carb also Ok when put on my other TS. Ignition gives same values as the running one too...

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: Hoony on March 17, 2009, 09:34:53 am

100 PSI is very low should be 160 +

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: TT5 Matt on March 17, 2009, 01:21:39 pm

buy a new o/size piston/rings and give it a rebore it will do wonders for it!


TT5 Matt

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: LWC82PE on March 17, 2009, 05:33:55 pm

crank case seals probably need to be done. As soon as i did that, a rebore and went through the carby on mine is a 2nd kick starter when cold.

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: Doc on March 17, 2009, 08:07:56 pm

hard starting can also be due to a defective reed valve or maybe even the petals jammed slightly open by dirt or grit depending what country you are in ;) sounds like it may need the treatment TT5 Matt mentioned above to bump the compression back up to where it should be ;)

Title: Re: Ts185 Poor Starter/Compression
Post by: Loydee on April 14, 2009, 05:56:30 am

Thanks for comments -an update. My other {red :( }TS185 starts Ok and being curious checked the comp -psi is 90-100 on that. Put new rings in the "reluctant" one -no change on psi. I know seals are Ok cos I just did them.Still wouldn't start.Went back to it a day or so later after using the carb on red TS and bingo!  ;D. It now starts 1st kick w/choke and I've been riding it all afternoon.
Well pleased but jesus these ol bikes are beyond me... Are they all female by any chance? ???