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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: TooFastTim on February 01, 2009, 05:08:30 pm
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I've been offered a job in Sydney and want to bring my bike(s) with me from NZ, I beleive I may be liable for import duties, is this true and if so how much are those duties?
TIA.
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Tim,
I've crated 3 bikes over from NZ to Perth and in a few weeks am about to bring a fourth over. It's a fairly pricey excersise (was for me anyway) You have to get a valuation on your bike for which you pay10% GST, you also have to pay a one of fee to the department of transport in Canbera after you have dowloaded and sent away your application to them. On top of that there is the cost of customs clearance, not to mention storage fees for the depot it lands in,
hope this helps.
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Thanks for your reply Maxvmx.
10% of new valuation or present ('cause that's easy to fiddle err underquote)?
Bikes are, of course, off road with no rego, so does the dept transport need to know?
Bike will be in the domestic/household effects container.
Thanks again.
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Tim, It does'nt matter that the bikes are off road and un registerable they are still prone to a fee, when you download the form you will see there are many catagories of vehicles listed. And yes the valuation is very easy to down size, when I bought in my 250 KX A5 last time I went to a kawasaki dealer to get a valuation and I don't think he even knew KX's were around in 1979, so he valued the bike at a few hundred dollars!
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I just remembered the correct name for that goverment department - DOTARS, department of transport and regional services,
Vehicle Imports Enquiries
Ph: 1800 815 272
Fax: (02) 6274 6013
Hope this helps, and good to see a bit more kiwi comming over the ditch, good luck with your new job.
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tim
pull them apart and bring them in as parts with your household stuff.sould cost you nothing extra as lond as it is stated as parts in your belongings.i have biught 6 bikes from the usa and neve had a problem just had to pay freight and gst on the parts.check with your shipper as it is with hosehold stuff should be ok.you are bringing you shed tools right
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when I bought in my 250 KX A5 last time I went to a kawasaki dealer to get a valuation and I don't think he even knew KX's were around in 1979, so he valued the bike at a few hundred dollars!
Philistine!
Ta very for the replies. You've both been a great help.
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Parts under $1000 do not attract GST nor duties if you can send em over in a couple of shipments, food for thought ;)
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I'd go with the pull down and ship method too. Stuff paying the Milky Bar Kid and his cronies anything as they just waste it !!! I imported a 490 once from a very helpful lady in Arizona with an end result that it cost me more in duties fees and other bullshit just to get it out of the warehouse door at Botany that it did to ship it from her place to the Sydney warehouse - and it was in pieces !!! ???
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Yeah that's what I'm looking at. Half in the container, half in another box.
I'm still smarting about school fees. I'll be on a 457 work visa for two years after which I can apply for PR, but on a 457 in NSW you have to pay school fees for public schools. WTF? That's double taxation!
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How much are school fees for a NSW state school?
If you're Catholic there are some great schools - my daughter goes to one - where are you guys settling? Bondi, lol ???
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$4,500 pa up to yr 11/12, $5,500 pa yrs 11/12. Ouch!
Nah not Catholic, wife and kids are red sea pedestrians (I'm a "fallen" anglican). Better half is trying to beat remittance/scholarships out of Masada. I'm stuffed if I'm going to pay that money to the state.
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This is a wee hijack with just a bit more total madness of the country going mad
Love lies bleeding in a skip at Glenorie, NSW, where one of the largest producers of roses in the state expects to dump up to 9000 unsold red roses in the Valentine's Day mop-up.
The co-owner of Forest Glen Roses, Mark Grubski, said a flood of cheap, poor-quality roses from developing countries was killing the local industry.
The peak body charged with representing growers' interests, the Flower Growers Group of NSW, was dominated by operators who relied on imports in times of high demand, he said.
"Instead of working to develop the industry, they're killing the market by buying cheap and not giving the public value for money," Mr Grubski said.
Many of the imported roses for which consumers paid a premium for Valentine's Day would already be drooping and the buds were likely to die before they had even opened, flower growers in other states said.
This was because the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service requires all imported cut flowers be dipped in a glyphosate herbicide (such as Monsanto's Roundup) in the country of origin, to prevent Australian rose enthusiasts from propagating the flowers and introducing any foreign diseases that may have arrived with them.
Some imported flowers were a biosecurity threat because they had not been treated according to the AQIS requirement, the Flower Association of Queensland and Flowers Victoria said.
Imported flowers come from countries including India, Columbia, Zimbabwe, Ecuador and China.
The flower organisations said the AQIS regulations were not being followed.
The Queensland body's president, Brian Shannon, said AQIS's drenching requirements were being widely flouted by its overseas accredited agencies.
"Certification needs to come back to Australian shores," Mr Shannon said.
Both bodies said they had been in regular communication with AQIS over the biosecurity issue, but nothing has been done to address their concerns.
The president of the Flower Growers Group, Robert Giansante, said any suggestion that the NSW body was controlled by operators of the import market was offensive and inconsistent with the group's position over the past 15 years.
"The FGG has consistently criticised AQIS over its bio-security procedures on many occasions in the past," Mr Giansante said.
"The industry suffers from importers who wish to make a quick buck, who have nothing to do with the local industry other than to have connections in Third World countries and who sell their products direct to florists.
"It is these importers who pose the greatest risk to our biosecurity."
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Wow! How the heck did you manage to weave that one in? ;D
Not a new tactic. Being an ex-saffer I watched the, then very socialist, state controlled dairy board dump thousands of tons of dairy products into the sea when there was a surplus. The reasoning was that it would keep the prices up.
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Hi ToofastTim,
Just though Id pop The Rose story it in here as its about import costs etc that's all. ;)
Australia too is becoming a crazy country.
ps basic government High School fees are $130 in west Oz.
cost $950 for Engineering trades yr 11.
cheers Alison
pss hope you get your bikes over at a good rate 8)
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Oh, I see!
Consultation with "me learned friends" (i.e. this board and the Gas Gas importer) reveals dismantle, box and label as garden implements.
Problem with school fees is that they are international fees for 457 visa holders in NSW. Already have #2 son enrolled private school is seeing whether they can squeeze in #1 son.
Oh, Aus is fine in relation to the UK. What I read about that country scares me.
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I've been offered a job in Sydney and want to bring my bike(s) with me from NZ, I beleive I may be liable for import duties, is this true and if so how much are those duties?
TIA.
If the bikes are for personal use and not for selling I don`t see why you should pay any duties. If your bringing a contianer of personal items including for example electrical goods should you pay a duty on this also?
I have a freind that is taking his family and his whole life to work in Italy for three years and because he has a visa for that reason he will pay 0% duties.
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You have to get a valuation on your bike for which you pay10% GST, you also have to pay a one of fee to the department of transport in Canbera after you have dowloaded and sent away your application to them.
Could you not get the valuation quoted way under as the same way when selling a car/trailer to a mate and quote way under to save on stamp duty fees. ??? (its just a dirt bike,sir ;) ;D )
cheers
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ould you not get the valuation quoted way under as the same way when selling a car/trailer to a mate and quote way under to save on stamp duty fees. (its just a dirt bike,sir )
There was a time when we all did that Ali but these days they're a bit smarter. They keep right up with market prices and they have a pretty good idea if you're bullshitting them. Fudging the figures a smidgey is fine but the old $100 Rickman Metisse is a thing of the past.
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While we're on this import thing....I think we could possibly in for some radical changes in the import regs if what's happened to the car import guys is any indication. Earlier this year the rules were suddenly changed without warning to make it illegal to import any modified vehicle manufactured prior to 1989 unless it can be proven that the modifications made to the car were made prior to that date. "Modifications" means anything that sways even slightly from factory production. Aftermarket wheels, non standard exhaust or engine mods, even some non factory paint jobs are now considered as modified and therefore unable to be imported.
One of the Klub Kevlar GOB's recently imported a '66 Chevy Camaro that's fitted with a stout 350 with all of the usual go fast mods, 17" Torque Trust wheels and a beautiful 10k Candy Purple 'House of Color' paint job. He picked the car up from the importer Phil Hart in Adelaide two days before the law changed. If he'd held over until the following week to fly down to Adelaide to pick the car up, he'd have been told that he couldn't import the car or if he did still want it he'd have to have signed a declaration that it was only to be used for racing or, have it registered and inspected as a 2010 model which would fail for all sorts of reasons, most notably emissions and safety crash testing. A hot rodder mate of ours told us of a friend of his who bought a 66 Mustang in the USA to give to his wife for her 50th birthday. The car had been updated with a late model EFI 302, 4 wheel discs and modern 17" wheels but was otherwise a nice original Mustang. The car was refused entry unless he was prepared to allow them to classify the car as a 2005 model, based on the engines manufacture date, once again, an impossibility based on the strict current ADR's. The penalty for not complying was having to ship the car back to the US at his expense. The car's still sitting at the importers awaiting the results of an expensive legal challenge. What's alarming about this stuff is the lack of warning that it was coming. One importer had three paid for street rods on the docks waiting to be unloaded when the regs changed making it impossible to land them here, and therefore the owners have basically done a lot of money.
What's the motive behind such a radical change in rules? The import car business supports hundreds of direct jobs and countless other associated jobs within the various offshoot businesses. The industry would turn over millions of dollars with the taxes supplying the government with a tidy little tax income yet, some pencil head within the government has decided that to implement these draconian new rules is a good idea. I guess shutting down small business and laying the boot into a well supported hobby must seem like a good idea to someone. Who knows what's next. There's a lot of bikes currently coming into the country and you can bet your last buck that there's a public servant geek looking for ways of stopping it right now. Get in while you still can...
http://www.asrf.org.au/docs/Import-Bulletin-001.pdf (http://www.asrf.org.au/docs/Import-Bulletin-001.pdf)
http://modifiedcarforums.com/forums/general-automotive/7289-urgent-read-new-import-laws.html (http://modifiedcarforums.com/forums/general-automotive/7289-urgent-read-new-import-laws.html)
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the public servant dont car, its the CAR lobby holdens, ford etc who pay hundreds of thousands for an bank of full time PR spinners and Lobbyist who just sit on the governement anf bleeet, weel all be broke if you dont stop the importations, well losse xxx jobs , youll loose the next election and all our LABOUR - ACU spport. blah blah. I used to import JAp R32,33,and one of the first R34, till they brought out the REVS idea, one look at that and i bailed, the paper work required was just mental it was going to be like QA for every car. THe whole import vs government thing is a joke. MAybe the CAr makers could
A - actually build better cars,
B- sell us cars we actually want
C- make the affordable like the asian can
D - since the tarriff on imports for a " normal Car maker is down and there able to supply inot AU, well why the hell cant i bring in my own Car regardless of what it is ? its a State law regarding Registratin complience not federal.
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TFT - recent quote I received for bringing a bike across from NZ (admittedly to Perth) was around $900 freight but then $650 port fees + GST - this was a full bike - not split up as parts.
cheers
Rossco
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ross less fees by air than threw ports. Not much more to Isle of Mann than auz have flown and gone by see to Auz from UNzud,found flying best