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Clubroom => Introductions => Topic started by: Power Stand on January 20, 2009, 12:29:10 am
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I am sure my opening statement will be like a moth to a flame. :o I have three 1986 CR500’s and had one since new. :)
I race in the Pilbara, West Aust from 1979 to 1990. Since then life things pushed in front but now its time to resurrect the old horse. (I bet this sounds familiar) I have been buying up parts and shipped to bikes in the post when our $ was 95cents to the USA. Wicked.
I race above the 26 parallel competing in MX, enduros, hare & hounds, trials, dirt track, speedway solos, desert races and all that stuff. 8)
Owned bikes like TY80B, MT125, PE175 1981, TS175, TS250, RM125 1979, RM250F, SL350, CB350, SX175 Harley, 500 Jawa and other odd sods.
Today I just have 3 x CR500, 1949 BSA M21, TF125 AG
I am into all types of bikes push or power, I ride a pushy to work 45km round trip. Race the odd mountain bike race for fun. :)
Anyway, I am sure you have the picture.
Oh I am 43 and who said male menopause = red sports car, Hm! male menopause = red dirt bike for me.
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ah stocking up on those CR500s...... nothing more frightening than a good CR5. Outback WA has some pretty special riding conditions, I remember riding Lefroy, cool race, heaps of flies
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Welcome CR500 King. ;D
Did you manage any of the listed
Karratha 6 hr, Parabardoo,Whim Creek,Cappie-Kumarina Roadhouse 2day in 1986-1988
and Lake Lefroy 86.
Got a bit of fame for Ken Melvin in the ADB that year, ;D photo of him with a broken chain in the middle of the lake and then continued on pushing it to the next pit stop. :'(
cheers
the 87 motley cruw
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i see you had a sx175 harley
i know where one of these is
are they any good for a trailbike/ vinduro
welcome to forum rusty ;D
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i see you had a sx175 harley
i know where one of these is
are they any good for a trailbike/ vinduro
OR would they be suitable to ride to a Bandidos show and shine. ;D
From memory the SX 2 strokes all started as 250s and they just used increasingly thick cast iron liners to get down to a 125.
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ah stocking up on those CR500s...... nothing more frightening than a good CR5. Outback WA has some pretty special riding conditions, I remember riding Lefroy, cool race, heaps of flies
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Cheers, I would have like to do the Lefroy race and yep open country bike. About the flies, Have you heard about no flies on my back ;D ;D ;D.
vmx247 a Neman rider well there you go, yep I had a go at all of them except the Karratha 6 hr, I also race the Pannawonica 6 hr as well, some North West rounds.
I was a Paraburdoo MC rider.
Went to Newman a couple of times for bike events and I do recognize some of those faces, alcohol and drugs has killed names, opps drugs, I meant age.
Day 1 start line Newman Capricorn Road house 1987
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Day 2 return, first place
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Whim Creek 1988, and the Paraburdoo Motor Cycle Club that weekend oh! and a prize for me.
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i know where one of these is
are they any good for a trailbike/ vinduro
I think emphasize the word trail bike. Don’t get me wrong, get the bike just for the novelty. It’s a heavy slug but who else would have one on the line.
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Good Stuff CR King,Found some paper work.
Your top photo posted reads from left:
Expert over 250cc 2 stroke
Ian Ruby(face missing in pic) 3rd KTM 500, 251min.28sec
Yourself? P Burrell 1st Honda 500, 1st 222min 15 sec
Brett Sawyer Honda 250cc 1st in his class 246min.00(ex owner of Goldfields MC Shop).
Mewett KTM 350, 237min.70
Ray Williams 1st in his class (lives Bunbury)
No 39 M Nickels (president PMC ?) DNF
Time keeper myself in white singlet
Paul Bevan No 36 DNF(lives Bunbury still owns Newman Tyre Repairs)
Many more fantastic times where had in the north.GO the RAT
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How simple life was.........
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Mate that’s great, I never new the times. Was that the overall time?
I didn’t care for the detail back then but just a good ride and shit that was a good weekend. The track was phenomenal; the three sections between fuel stops gave open speed variety. All most three different types of terrain.
I drew those Paraburdoo logo and that goanna on the bike. I plagiarized a Fred Gassit picture on that one.
This news clip was from your last post and it has a few Newman riders’ names on it. Shame it’s got my name plastered on the heading.
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x101/Power_Stand/BurrellsEnduro-2.jpg)
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Just for old times and the story of those photos.
I suppose every race has a different story and that depends on who is telling it but we are on memorabilia trail here, so I hope I don’t bore anyone with this old war tail to much. ;)
So here we go;
Before we left Paraburdoo
Mick’s bike was geared higher than mine and the local cop accused him of doing near 200km/h on the Nanutarra road during testing. The copper said a green blur went past him and he couldn’t believe how fast this thing was. He couldn’t prove which green bike in town it was, so Mick was free man, lucky the cop know nothing about gearing. :)
I had lower gearing running a 15 front 40 rear I was about 5 – 10 km/h slower than Mick and about 10-15 km/h slower than Rubys bike. I found this out off the start line on day 2, I will explain later. Hay don’t get me wrong we didn’t truly know the speed of our bikes but a cops word was worth quoting.
Mick had an extra fuel range with a tank on the forks, I had a standard 9.5lts tank.
Before the race;
I remember turning up in Newman at that burger joint behind the shops, near the pool. A local bike guy stopped for a chat and tells us all about Ian Ruby’s set up and advises us of his massive long-range tank, machined down his hub to fit the rear sprocket and how he cut into his swing arm for clearance for the front sprocket. I must admit Mick and I felt out gunned.
We jetted the bike the afternoon before we raced and we never pre-rode the track. With a set of number drills and a pair of vice grips, we did speed runs and plug tests. Mick left his jetting as from Para testing but I believed that the temperature would be hotter by midday plus the engine temperature would increase during the race. I jetted black, we all know fuel keeps them cool and not oil.
From the first photo, the start and my version of events.
Day 1
It was a dead engine start and CR500’s don’t like starting at the best of times let alone a jetted up one. My class left and I was still kicking the bike, 500 above thumpers, 250 two strokes all went and I was still trying to start the bike. Just before the 250 four strokes class it fired up.
With dust and riders in my way, I rode through, and over anything and everything to pass as many riders as I could. I remember the washed out sections because I just had to hit them best I could, dust blind, I think I rounded up most of them in the first section to the fuel stop. ::)
The second section had these natural mini tabletops with a barbed wire fence running along side. I was hit them as fast as I could to see if I could clear them. There was a dried up lake type thing that had these funny little bushes with dirt in side them. Most of the riders followed a single track while I just went over the top these little 300mm high shrubs as fast as I could. :)
Heading into the last fuel stop it was tight and the clutch was getting a workout due to the gearing. Then the old dirt hi-way and open speed to the finish. I think each section was about 60-70km long as well.
As I was heading to the finish line the Hi-way came along side the bike track, my pit crew were arriving at the same time so I slowed down to wave to them when I looked round to see the gigantic washouts, 6 feet deep one after another. More ass then class I just hit them and I was in total survival mode. I hit about three of four of them and I ended up in the creek bed still on the bike. ;D ;D
My crew couldn’t believe I pulled this survival stunt off, apparently Chuck was saying hes off, no hes not, yes he is, no hes not, my god!
I asked Chuck how fast was he going along the road, his reply was 130km/h, lucky I slowed down.
Apparently, I came in at 6th place, day 1.
That night we hit he pub and bonus double shot bourbons for $5. We hammered a few. :)
Day 2 continued later and if you think this story is shit, well too :'( :-* bad.
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Wanna light up your CR500?...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CR500-1987-LIGHTING-SYSTEM-STATER-FLYWHEEL-RARE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35595QQihZ021QQitemZ310117709227QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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Yes they where the overall times the 1st overall place went to B Hienrich on a Suzuki 250 218.43.
fastest time day 1
I Ruby 111.00
M Nickels(I'm sure he busted his shoulder hitting a cow on his roadbike at some stage) 111.30
B Heinrich 115.10
fastest Day two
B Heinrich 103.33
P Burrell 104.00
M Brennan 110.30(Still in PHedland)
RIDERS BRIEF NEWMAN DAY ONE,just follow the markers and tape.
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Maaate, maaatee
Small world we live in. I marked the two day with a couple of other Newman guys that first year. ( and the second year) One section- across the lakes we couldn't find a way across, so hired a plane and flew the track - that was different. I remember it being super fast but had the hills and lakes and all that to pull the big bikes back with there 15 / 40 gearing. The last run into Kumarina was fast but many guys did as you did and never made it. Edge of the seat desert racing.... The 88 year I think they clocked on the police radar 180 clicks ( on the dirt) at the beginning of the last run to Kumarina - just before the washouts.
I never rode the first year but did it on the second riding a KX250. I rememebr running across the spinnifex that you speak of, while eveyone else rode the single line. I remember day one went to shit when everyone got lost just before the first fuel point. Being an organiser of the event i helped get guys back on track, but ment I started near last on day 2. I did however post the second fastest time behind a guy from Telfer on one of them dam CR 500 things.
I rode the Rocklea in 87 that Alison has posted but recall pulling out severely de-hydrated and crashed out(I was riding an IT490 then) I think it was the pre race party we went to at some ones house that caused the damage. It was probably the whole weekend really as I think we left Newman straight after work and never got to Tom Price until some early hour of the morning.- I never recalled after it being that far.
Anyway - great to hear from a North Wester. I am sure Alison will post some more pics of the GREAT BURRELL & those days.
Cheers
Steven
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At that Rockley Endruo I spent ¾ of that false start lap dicing with a rider on a IT490 & while waiting for the other riders to come in for the re-start you came up an said what a shit hot time we had swapping positions. Was that you? :o
In regards to the GREAT, I am no greater than anyone else, I just had some good days, lost more that won and any dirt bike rider is a legend for just being out there. :)
I think some of your images havent linked, I am keen to see whats you posted. :)
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Wanna light up your CR500?...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-CR500-1987-LIGHTING-SYSTEM-STATER-FLYWHEEL-RARE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35595QQihZ021QQitemZ310117709227QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Thanks cyclegod for this offering! yes I will keep an eye on that. I would like to build one of my CR's into a all rounder.
Cheers
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At that Rockley Endruo I spent ¾ of that false start lap dicing with a rider on a IT490 & while waiting for the other riders to come in for the re-start you came up an said what a shit hot time we had swapping positions. Was that you? Shocked,
Trying to think on that one,! remember being piss at having to start again..
Some of the pic I've posted up just came out wrong. :-\
Here is one of you,Steven and Mr Sheppard Capricorn Roadhouse owner (his son is in our local mx club) at the Newman 2 day presentations.April 87
alison
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At that Rockley Endruo I spent ¾ of that false start lap dicing with a rider on a IT490 & while waiting for the other riders to come in for the re-start you came up an said what a shit hot time we had swapping positions. Was that you? Shocked,
Trying to think on that one,! remember being piss at having to start again..
Some of the pic I've posted up just came out wrong. :-\
Here is one of you,Steven and Mr Sheppard Capricorn Roadhouse owner (his son is in our local mx club) at the Newman 2 day presentations.April 87
alison
OK, I am a bit confused, are Alison & Steve sharing the same logon? Or the same person, nothing wrong with that :o ::) ;D
Yes, I recognise Steve and I am sure it was you on that first lap. At one point during that lap, we stopped and I think you asked if I knew the way.
It wasn’t club rules but we never pre-rode a track, so I was as lost as anyone at a home event. Honor amongst men.
I agree, I was pissed at the restart as well, Frank Turner (one of the fastest aboriginal dirt bike rider I ever knew) from Port Headland and a few others got the lead on that lap and missed the turn tapes and did a 10km loop, forcing the restart. I think Mick felt obliged to re-start due these guys had travelled from Port Headland.
I had called it quits due to the heat and a front flat tyre that I fought in on the last 10km but my mates pulled my front wheel off, fixed my flat and talked me into starting again. If it wasn’t for them I probably wouldn’t have pulled that race.
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Yes they where the overall times the 1st overall place went to B Hienrich on a Suzuki 250 218.43.
fastest time day 1
I Ruby 111.00
M Nickels(I'm sure he busted his shoulder hitting a cow on his roadbike at some stage) 111.30
B Heinrich 115.10
fastest Day two
B Heinrich 103.33
P Burrell 104.00
M Brennan 110.30(Still in PHedland)
The reason I asked before if those out right times were correct was I was wanting to post a protest 21 years too late. Hehehe. :)
Yes, I was first over the line on day two but second out right for the two days, first in my class.
Mick Brennan I remember and was a outstanding rider. When I post day 2, I will lead a little on him because of what happened. I think he was riding a stock DR400.
Mick Brennan was also a top bloke.
Mick Nickels bike sized on day two.
As I remember, B Heinrich was riding a KX250 with long range tanks and tall gearing, obviously a good rider a deserved the win.
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Yes we do share log in on occasion. Normally this is Alison's domain & occasionally she lets me reply to a post. Yours was an exceptional flash back so fought her off for a place on the keyboard. She posted that last pic of the presentations and has said to stop confusion will refrain ::) (or at least sign her name)
You are right about all those names mentioned - all exceptional riders. I wonder sometimes if, given the chance, how they would have fared down in the big smoke.
I'm sure Bronte was on a RM250 - he went off to be a helicopter pilot, chasing bulls in the NT.
Mick was on a DR600. and yes as stock as they come. How he held onto it I have no idea. Mick went over east for a few years and is now back in Hedland. I grew up and went to school with Mick. He never used to have a bike when we were younger. But as he hung out with us we let him ride our bikes. I remember a notable day, I had an RM100 and let him have a ride. He come flying along this bush track, hit an anthill and went flying. Knocked himself out, split the helmet like a water melon, and totaled the front of the RM.
That was the first of many days over the years that I took him back to his mum, either half unconscious or broken in some other way. How he ever become so fast I have no idea. He certainly couldn't ride as a kid. ???
We left the Newam in 88 (were I met up with Alison) went to Kalgoorlie for 12 years and have been here in the Sth west for 8 years enjoying the cooler climes. As you may have guessed, into the VMX side of things with the WA VMX club. Ride an XL350 bored to 420, lightened etc. Re Building this TM250 which I started with. Will get to the CR125's oone day and putting together a TM75 for a pit bike.
Still involved with the modern bikes as boy child has an RMZ250. My "modern" ride is a 90 model CR250. (which i rode in Kal)
I never did real well on the 490. I could go fast but it wore me down too quick and I would usually end up on my arse. The Newman club had bike a raffle in 87 a KLR250. I won the raffle and after completing the customary burn out for the boys, sold it and brought a KX250. Finally a bike that I could hold onto for longer than hour.
Good to catch up about past victories and events.
Steven 8)
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Steve & Alison, it’s great to chat on old times and happy memories. :) :) :) I agree and wonder how our North West riders would have matched up to the rest of the world. I think our racing format defiantly was brave where our club races were always three-hour races or more. Track was marked out with mine surveyors tape hanging in a bush, you needed to line up two of them for a straight line and no less than a 10km loop; drag a stick in the dirt to mark the start/ finish line. All you needed to do was turn up with ya bike two Gerry cans of fuel and bullsh..t stops when the flag dropped and the first home was the winner. High speed, dust and ambient temperatures made racing a hard day’s fun. :)
Funny you mentioned the goldfields, I also went there in late 1990, didn’t race bikes, just worked 12-18 hour days without many breaks, hated the place because of it. I spent about 4 years that way. I am also south, well Perth and softened to the heat since I left the Pilbara.
Good to see you two are into & still riding bikes and getting amongst the classic bikes and a soft spot for me as well. Do you know of any other North West riders still in action and don’t tell me Pat Crombie still circulating. ;D wouldnt be supprised if he was. :)
The VMX seen is going off but that means another bike and I’m attached to my bike. Being an 1986, I am just outside EVO dates. I have contacted them and they didn’t care as long as you rode a bike. That’s cool. The only thing is they run at modern MX tracks and natural terrain is what I would rather do. Tumble Gum farm will be a go next year, 40+ age group is full this year plus the bikes not ready yet
Do you know of any other events in the west where a CR500 is welcome to blast up the turf and just go for a ride?
:)
And yes I am really enjoying our discussion too.
Pete
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Pete
I dont know of any events running natural terrain per say. The Collie Club (Im the Sec) is looking at having a one over at Darkan this year, as an intro for some of the families over there. Its still in the pipeline and may not even happen. I will let you know if it does.
After I left Newman I never really kept up with many of the guys. Old Pat - I think went and lived in Bali or some similar location. Have never heard of any of the Crombies again. Graeme Squires that used to be in Port Hedland (had the bike shop) is now in Mandurah. Greg Herbert is also back in Port Hedland & I think his brother Steven (rode speedway) is over east.
The WA VMX scene is pretty good. I enjoy it mainly because of the format and the different tracks. Get a god mix of natural terrain and MX tracks. For the past few years I have been passenger for my brother on an 850 Norton Wasp MX sidecar. Being passenger takes it out of me (Im 46 and all the other passengers are just starting to shave ::) ) so I haven't ridden as much. Bro's son recons hes going to have a go this year, so hopefully Ill get back to the bikes ; D.
Keep an eye on the WAVMX calander and maybe come over to one of the events. You may even find you could fit one of the old bangers in the shed. - at least you be able to get a ride.
Cheers for now
Steven
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Steve, yes please drop a line if you recon something suitable pops up & maybe that roll round on a VMX event may happen. Lord helping I may pick up something more suitable. My brother is in to Vintage Trials and found a TM400 but the guy wouldnt part. A work mate said I could have a PE400, which I would dearly love but it’s in Tassie. I do need to finish the CR first, and then I will diversify.
Sidecar swing, now that’s wicked. Something that’s lost in modern MX, I suppose if its not doing a back flip, its par-say. Mind you, Crusties haven’t done that yet?
Alison, I recognise some of the names and I am always impressed when people do the card thing, I’m a shocker, typical bloke forget anniversaries and my own birthday but I remember my bosses or she will make life hard and say a lot of loud, flinching words at me again. ;D
Do you ride?
If you guys want to PM check my profile.
Cheers :)