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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Marc.com on January 08, 2009, 11:14:20 pm
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Foxy 370 getting there, Thor swinger, Simons forks, hell i am getting over excited
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Cool bikes those Moto-x Fox racers. Is that also a Fox CR in the background?
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Just how many projects have you 'on the boil' Marc?
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hmmmm its turned into a multi national operation ::)
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Cool bikes those Moto-x Fox racers. Is that also a Fox CR in the background?
or part there of, knocked off the forks for my HL
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hi marc rm 370 they are way cool and fast
i love em
heres a picture of mine ;D ;D
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snap on the Thor swingarm. Yeah 370 seems to be a good size. Im a sucker for anything with an alloy tank
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where did you get those number plates from mark
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DC do the opaque number plates for RM125/250/370. I've had a couple of sets and they are decent.
Cheers,
K
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where did you get those number plates from mark
they arre NOS plates off ebay, Suzuki kindly paints the plastic silver grey for you, but i kind of like it. Vintage suzuki does them as well but fit of their stuff is questionable.
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and this is where it is all heading.....ahhhh
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where did you get those number plates from mark
Plates still available new from Suzuki
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and this is where it is all heading.....ahhhh
That is a Cool Bike 8)
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I'm with Bill. As much as I've been critical of blinging up vintage bikes using billet triple clamps and inapropriate non era swingarms, here's a great example of a trick hot rod vintage bike that uses era specific parts. Too cool.
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Hi
I have just finnished building a RM 370 from an absolute basket case. I am waiting for graphics. Initially I bought DC plastics- nothing wrong but not great, an acceptable set of plastics for racing. I managed to set a set of good plastics ex David at AMS Racing, looks like the NOS plastics.
Unfortunately for me and at the expense of building a period bike, I was forced to have a set of triple clamps/ trees machined, the bike has forks with a bigger outer diameter than the trees/ yokes/ triple clamps. The arse before me simply levered in a screwdriver to open up the trees. What a monumental fork up and costly to remedy. I cannot wait to get the decals, bar the footpegs and machined trees/ clamps the balance of the bike is period.
I have a few bikes that were finnished late last year, a CR 250 1978, RM 370 1976, CR 500 2000, I will post pics soon.
cRABMAN
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I'm with Bill. As much as I've been critical of blinging up vintage bikes using billet triple clamps and inapropriate non era swingarms, here's a great example of a trick hot rod vintage bike that uses era specific parts. Too cool.
I can understand where your coming from Firko, but for me the era performance parts are where its at, Simons, Fox, Thor its addictive like hell. So normally I start with buying something cool like a swing arm and building the rest around it. I find stock NOS restorations as dull as ditch water, it has always been about building better mouse traps.
I think the RM370 is nice combination of 250 zap and open class grunt.
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and this is where it is all heading.....ahhhh
Bloody nice bike Mate !
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not mine unfortunately, but I have all the bits and mine is getting closer
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the rm 370 whats the go with them
i luv em took me 3 years to find one
and i will never sell her :-*
tell me this back in 76/77
the starting grids were full of them
were are they all now ???
mine was the only one at cd5
and currently i am the only one racing one in qld
so were are they, parts do not come up very often on ebay
its nearly a rm370 phantom ::)
anyway i am happy i have got mine ;D ;D
what are you thoughts on this ???
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its because the 370 is up against the pre 80 bikes in most cases and the late 80 bikes will wipe the floor with you. So if you are after pre 80 MX domination or to win then you will buy an HL500 ;) or perhaps a Maitgo.
However, if like me your memories as a kid includes seeing Peter Ploen and Miller duke it out at Whakatane, then you will want to own one anyway. ;D
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we dont have pre 80 here
its evo or pre78
i would back my 370 against any pre 80
pre 80 maicos were not that good :o
honda didnt have a big bore ::)
kawasaki didnt have a big bore ::)
suzuki had rm400 :)
yammy had yz400 :)
husky had cr390 :D
hls were not around :-[
but a modified rm370 would definatly run with them
dont underestimate them ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Pre '80 Maicos were not that good ??? ? Your kidding Holeshot aren't you ? The '79 Magnum 400/440 was supposed to be the best handling Maico ever & with equal ability riders , would eat an RM370 ;). I think that a '79 CR390 Husky would too :). As far as HLs go , I have never seen one win a race ( except for maybe against other HLs ) . I have only ever heard of one winning a race & that was the '77 Luxembourg GP .
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yep if you are running pre 78, then it is the only bike to have, Suzuki virtually gave you what Roger was riding. ;D
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For pre '78 open class , the RM370 would be my 4th choice , behind the '77 CR390 Husky , Montesa VB360 & Maico AW 400/440 .
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I was just about to ask that question Mark. I thought the Maico and Husky may have been better than a RM370 but the RM was definately more popular and cheaper.
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Its another example that shows that just because a certain brand is more popular & sells more bikes , doesn't necessarily mean that model bike is any better . I think that a standard '77 RM370 was lagging behind the opposition at time as it had a fair bit less suspension travel than the Euro bikes . I think that the dark horse in the pre '78 open class is the VB360 Montesa , as it was way ahead of its time & came standard with 10 inches travel at both ends ( compared to the RM370's 7.5 to 8 inches ) . My '77 CR390 Husky is one of my favourite bikes , even though they are a bit of an ugly duckling . I have ridden a few AW400 Maicos & thought that they were pretty good too .
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Its another example that shows that just because a certain brand is more popular & sells more bikes , doesn't necessarily mean that model bike is any better . I think that a standard '77 RM370 was lagging behind the opposition at time as it had a fair bit less suspension travel than the Euro bikes . I think that the dark horse in the pre '78 open class is the VB360 Montesa , as it was way ahead of its time & came standard with 10 inches travel at both ends ( compared to the RM370's 7.5 to 8 inches ) . My '77 CR390 Husky is one of my favourite bikes , even though they are a bit of an ugly duckling . I have ridden a few AW400 Maicos & thought that they were pretty good too .
A+ ;) ;D. The conflict between 'VMX racing' and history and an example of 'the law of unintended consequences', not that anyone would want to 'game the system' to rewrite history or for personal gain :).
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In the case of NZ, Suzuki was promoted and supported way better than any other bike, Colemans were the best importers, riders and then some, so the Suzuki's were the most popular. They also won a lot on both sides of the Tasman. Not taking away anything from the other Euro stuff.
Stock suspension on an RM is pretty academic as the shocks usually were the first things to go.
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pre 80 maicos were not that good
Holy Moley, that's a bit of a statement! I realise you have this thing about Maicos Holeshot but to say they were not that good is funny ;D. I was living in the US during that period and the open class hot setup for the average local racer (as opposed to the pro hot shots) was either the Husky 360 or Maico AW400/440. I don't think many bikes would have beaten an AW440 in a drag race to the first trurn in 1977. There were a few Suzukis winning CRC races at my local tracks, Corona Raceway and Saddleback Park but they were usually pretty tricked up DG or Fox hot rods. For motocross I'd put the RM370 in thiird place and in the desert it was Husky or Yamaha and little much else.
I agree with Mark that the VB 360 Monty was a very good bike that was sadly overlooked by the majority because of the big push the media were giving the Japanese products. Bultaco were making good bikes with a dated engine, CZ were gone, Yamaha were getting pretty close to getting the mix right, OSSAs day was over in a similar scenario to that of Bultaco, CCMs were fast but fragile and expensive and in the real world only used as blingy play bikes by advertising execs or drug dealers. KTM was emerging as an entity of its own after losing the Penton logo and produced a gem in 1977 with the very fast 360 but unavailability and high cost kept them away from the average punter.
As for the HL, I have a number of differing thoughts about them. First as a part of MX history. In 1977 Yamaha went against the two stroke domination with an underfunded Swedish Yamaha entry in the 500 championship. Bengt Aberg won the Luxembourg GP and placed in a few more for an overall very successful first year. At the end of the season Yamaha HQ in Japan refused funding for the '78 season because they wanted to concentrate on the cheaper to produce 2 stroke YZ line in racing. If serious GP team funding had been allocated you can bet that more GP wins would have occurred and history (and Magoo) may have seen the HL in a different light. Today, the HL has morphed into two distinct styles that have nothing to do with the different frames(ProFab or NV/GMC). A high proportion of vintage racers build their HLs to Evo class specs by fitting overly long post 1980 41mm forks and longer shocks creating a tall and odd looking machine that necessitates a milk crate to mount and produces an strangely awkward riding posiition. I wish more HL punters would build their bikes to the original pre '78 suspension standards which not only transform the looks of the HL but brings the geometry back into the original design concept. If built to the pre '78 9" travel limit (or the 10" the class should have) I reckon the HL would be the class gun. In evo spec, as most repro HLs are, they just don't cut it against the Maico/Yamaha/Husky two stroke onslaught.
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I hate HL's. In my opinion they are the ugliest, most over rated, glorified farm bike montrosoties ever built. Frankensteins monster is an oil painting compared to a HL! I guess we all have different tastes though, some guys like fat sheilas for christ's sake. Anyone with me?
Cheers,
K
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I hate HL's.................some guys like fat sheilas for christ's sake. Anyone with me?
Cheers,
K
with the HL's part or the Fat sheila's part K Man. ;)
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C'mon mate ! I love 'em!!
HL's are alright too ;)
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I hate HL's. In my opinion they are the ugliest, most over rated, glorified farm bike montrosoties ever built. Frankensteins monster is an oil painting compared to a HL! I guess we all have different tastes though, some guys like fat sheilas for christ's sake. Anyone with me?
Cheers,
K
Yep, I'm with ya 100% ;)
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C'mon mate ! I love 'em!!
HL's are alright too ;)
that's because they make us look good Brad! ;)
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You know, I love the looks of the RM370 but I have never ridden one and I have no idea how they perform. But... I have owned an HL. It was (still is I guess) a ProFab framed version with a 76 TT engine. As setup when I got it, it ran 79 RM400 forks and S+W Stroker shocks, for 11" front and just a shade under 9" rear.
I'll be honest and admit that it was never as good as I imagined it would be. The forks were harsh and never really matched the weight of the bike, and the arse end was horrible. It sent every jolt straight up my spine. It was heavy and hard to start as well!
That said, I loved the look of the thing with its cobby look and that big lump of an engine. It also handled OK, especially in a straight line over rough ground where it tracked dead straight. It was fast off the line (I guess it just got the power down OK) and I actually beat everyone to the first corner more than once, including Maico 490s and the like. That surprised the heck out of me!
I kinda miss it, but in a nostalgic sort of way. I actually far prefer riding my 75 RM125M! I have no idea how an HL goes setup with really good forks and shocks, but for me at least mine would have been far better restored to original and sitting in my loungeroom...
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some girls like fat blokes
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some girls like fat blokes!!!
I can only hope so!!
But I am another one that doesn't think much of the HL - in fact I even reckon the RM370 looks better - just grew up around that model of RM I suppose!
Rossco
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. I think that the dark horse in the pre '78 open class is the VB360 Montesa , as it was way ahead of its time & came standard with 10 inches travel at both ends ( compared to the RM370's 7.5 to 8 inches ) .
Wouldn't that make the VB360 Illegal for pre '78 racing in the US and Australia ??? ??? ???. I was under the impression that 9" of travel was the limit for AHRMA and MA pre'78 categories.
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Thats right . The MA rulebook doesn't even list the VB Cappras as an eligible machine in pre '78 , even though they are a legitimate '77 model bike . The US rules ( which the Aussie rules were a dead set copy of ) have recently been amended to include the '77 VB Montesa ( & the '78VB , as it was virtually unchanged ) , but the wheel travel has to be restricted to 9 inches . As I have posted before , I think that the limit should have been set at 10 inches as there was plenty of bikes around at the time that came out standard with more than 9 inches of travel . I am going to have to see how to go about putting a proposal to MA to have the rule changed , rather than just complaining about it all the time :) .
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Thats right . The MA rulebook doesn't even list the VB Cappras as an eligible machine in pre '78 , even though they are a legitimate '77 model bike . The US rules ( which the Aussie rules were a dead set copy of ) have recently been amended to include the '77 VB Montesa ( & the '78VB , as it was virtually unchanged ) , but the wheel travel has to be restricted to 9 inches . As I have posted before , I think that the limit should have been set at 10 inches as there was plenty of bikes around at the time that came out standard with more than 9 inches of travel . I am going to have to see how to go about putting a proposal to MA to have the rule changed , rather than just complaining about it all the time :) .
Yep, something needs to be done, I have a set of NOS Kayaba forks out of the 77 DG catalouge for my RM125B, they are 10" travel forks, seems ridiculous that I have to restrict them to 9" travel.. ??? ??? ???
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The following is a slight change to an old question, (it used to be Honda step thru).
Q. What does a Yamaha HL500 & a fat sheila have in common?
A. They're both unreal until one of your mates catches you on one!
HL's aren't that unreal though.
Cheers,
K
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I hate HL's. In my opinion they are the ugliest, most over rated,Anyone with me?
Cheers,
K
I seem to remember Heffo doing quite well on one against the then current YZ426.
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firstly firko i actually dont mind maicos :o
i have owned them before i just said that to get em goin touchy lot ;D ;D
you might be right what you said in the states in 77
but over her
everyone was on yammy 400s
or rm370s
and my original post said a modified 370 would run with them
and yes the monty 360 was a great bike
i used to race ron dinsdales old 360 it was a jet
maybe i am wrong dunno
did husky monty maico ktm win any titles back in 77 ???
i am with k on the hl
original ones are ok but all the modified ones are a bit over the top
and i have ridden an original hl ;D
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Sorry Marc.....I did the 2007 ADB shootout between Gary Benns very trick ex works HL and the CDR YZ450 and there was no comparison. The HL wasn't in the hunt on any level. When Gally and Heffo were hooting around at CD2 in their HL V YZ426 display there was a fair bit of showbiz involved, both riders realising they had a captive vintage audience who wanted to believe the HL was good enough. If they'd been fair dinkum the YZ would have blitzed.
Having said that, I like HLs but only in genuine pre '78 mode. Finally, I realised you were taking the piss Holeshot. The smiley was a good hint ;D
Below, the bikes and riders from my ADB shootout at Broadford.
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Below, the actual '77 Bengt Aberg Luxembourg GP winner. Note much lower stance and smoother appearance.
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hey wouldnt a vmx shootout between
all the pre 78 open bikes be cool 8)
maybe at cd6
there would be no shortage of bikes
marks husky brads maico my 370
yammy, monty, cz kx 400 etc etc
even an original pre 78 hl if there is an animal :o
whatdo ya reckon ;D
now that aberg bike is a real hl 8)
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That original '77 HL looks so much better than the jacked up ridiculous looking repro things that are getting around now. They would be competitive if built to fit in pre '78 era like Firko said.
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like you said Firko, I wanna believe. Nice photo by the way, look great blown up on my shed wall.
We all have our own logical motives for owning a particular bike, mine was to build the best hot rod TT500 to guzump my mates TT. Have big valve high port head and WB swing arm stacked up for the next one.
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Marc,
I have just sent you a PM re airbox.Can you please respond.
Cheers
Craig
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HL looks so much better than the jacked up ridiculous looking repro things that are getting around now.
If you look at RJs bike or the bike Gall was riding in the HL Racers thread they all had plenty of suspension in the late 70s. I am running Fox forks and Ohlins and have the same suspension travel +/- as NVT Yamaha bikes.
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There is no way those HL's have the 13 or 14'' travel equal to the gap between the tyre and rear guard. The geometry wouldn't allow that much, they would've been designed in '77 for around 9 or 10'' wheel travel. Just because they have long shocks fitted doesn't mean they have 13'' rear wheel travel.
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never measured mine but it is definitely not 13", sounds like the shocks are wrong. My seat height is about the same as my RM500. Anyway i built my bike because I think it looks cool and didn't really think too much about how competitive it is.
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It's an interesting thing. My HL wasn't quite as jacked up as some, but given the space between tyre and guard I always assumed about 10-11" of rear wheel movement. Imagine my surprise when I sat down and measured the actual movement - just over 8.5". Possiby my shocks (Falcons) had less shaft travel than other brands, but I was still surprised at how little wheel travel there was. I reckon you'd be hard pressed to get more than 10-11" at the rear of an HL, even when jacked waaay up. I'd suggest the Aberg bike probably never had more than 8-9" at the rear. Anyone know for sure?
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ok apologies for continuing the HL talk in RM 370 topic, but were there perhaps 2 versions of genuine HL's? the early low travel ones and then some longer travel ones in about 1979?
i sort of agree with some about the really jacked up high HL's, im not sure ive seen other twin shock bikes that high or that at least have that jacked up high look. in one of the VMX mags there is actually specifications of max travel limits for HL's to comply with the rule books.
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Great photos,
NICE FOX....
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this is original race bike circa 79. later versions (NVT/Profab) kind of mirrored whatever the YZ of the time had as far as suspension travel.
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or race teams added after market suspension, remember it was back in the days when each years YZ had an inch more travel and more was better.
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or Nicks HL compared to 250RZ, all look pretty jacked up and pretty good to me.
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That's a good lookin HL (the clean one).. always liked the red Hallman/Eneqvist colour scheme.
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Here's the original Husky framed HL prototype, circa 1976. I love its stance. A mate was building a replica of this bike but has bought a GMC frame so I may get the frame/swingarm/forks from him and build it myself. I need another project!
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/bengtabergreplica.jpg)
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I really like that bike as well, I have White Brothers TT under construction that will be about there some place
Just scored high port SR Daytona head for my TT.
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg71/marcFX_photo/iwataco-img600x450-1213856187yi80lm.jpg)
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Here's the "Honda HL", A Curtis Honda
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/1curtishon.jpg)
This is a shot of the original constructor of the Norton Villiers HL frames, Brian Curtis with my pom friend Bens new Curtis Honda frame. Curtis Honda frames are almost identical to HLs.
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/brian-curtis.jpg)
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I cant understand WTF you would want to jack the bike up so high ??? In Australia where you race on purpose built MX tracks i see the need for a reasonable amount of suspension travel, but here in NZ on the tracks we race on all that travel and height is a liability.
I am going to put a KX 250 A5 motor in my 75 KX 250 frame here to race in pre 81 , being lower to the ground on our tracks gives a huge advantage . I had a blue with a bloke a few years ago who got pissed off because i would ride under him in corners on my TM 125 he was on an 1985 RM 125 , they run away down the straights but might as well get off and push it round corners .
That original HL is a beautifull machine but these replicas seem to have morphed into too wheel stick insects ::) still each to his own.
Now wasn,t this thread about real bikes anyway ;)
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being lower to the ground on our tracks gives a huge advantage .
what Bill ?, right height for the sheep ;D
The other option for the Honda is the C&J frame, uses the motor as a stressed member and doesn't require as much iron mongery to fit. One thing I like on the Curtis is it has the mother of all chain derailment protection.
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Hi
I have just finished building a RM 370 from an absolute basket case. I am waiting for graphics. Initially I bought DC plastics- nothing wrong but not great, an acceptable set of plastics for racing. I managed to set a set of good plastics ex David at AMS Racing, looks like the NOS plastics.
Unfortunately for me and at the expense of building a period bike, I was forced to have a set of triple clamps/ trees machined, the bike has forks with a bigger outer diameter than the trees/ yokes/ triple clamps. The arse before me simply levered in a screwdriver to open up the trees. What a monumental fork up and costly to remedy.
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd200/GROOTPOES/PersonalVintageBikes2008041.jpg)
Crabman
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Nice RM370 crabman, is it an a or b, Pipe looks hot
OLDYZMAN
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nice bike crabman does that front fender clear the pipe thanks Michael. :)
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It is a RM 370 B, YES the mudguard does clear the pipe. To be honest I don't intend to race the bike, I have ridden it but I won't race it. It is far to costly to get every bike up to a race spec. It is a queen that can start and will be ridden from time to time.
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really nice 370, one of the better proportioned ones I have seen. I hear what you are saying, not wanting to trash it as soon as you have built it. Its been my justification for buying a few 'race bikes'.
better to race the ones with plastic tanks
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Yeah I know what you are saying about plastics, I have Vintage Suzuki RM500 ones that suck. It is NOS all the way on the 370 and 500 now.
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Yep i know what you maen about not wanting to race it, I have a rm250a in same condition but mine only has the std expansion chamber. too nice to get all dirty, mine only gets ridden around a dry paddock occaisionally.
ODLYZMAN
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yeah I have 83 TT600 for anything ugly, reliable old nail with pretty endless supply of spares.
I am hoping ot have the Fox RM370 finished soon, it will be mint and original Fox spec of Thor swing arm, Simons forks, Fox shox.
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You gunna race the fox?
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This is not a dig at the 370, in fact i think it looks fantastic. A guess that it has a CircleF system fitted.
When we was talking with Roger DeCoster late last year we talked specifically about the 370B and the 400C and why the 400C was perceived to be so bad at an international level (in standard form) and he more or less said that they took the 370, fitted longer suspension travel to it, called it a 400C and and completely screwed the geometry in the process. Whilst he diddnt come out and say as much, he tried to get the factory to lower the bike to get it to handle. In a weird way i kinda have to agree as i have ridden the 370 and it corners well but the 400 needs a bit of coaxing. Interestingly just about every 370 that i have seen where extra suspension travel has been added the riders never seem to be happy about the handling.
Fact or Fiction i don't know but it made for an interesting discussion.
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When we was talking with Roger DeCoster late last year we talked specifically about the 370B and the 400C and why the 400C was perceived to be so bad at an international level (in standard form)
yep but Roger was raised on short travel bikes. Seems to be a lot more 370s out there then 400Cs, maybe there is something in it, or maybe Suzuki offered almost the same bike once too often and lost a bit of ground.
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Hi Gents
To anybody looking for original Suzuki oem parts try AMS Racing, I managed to get an original fuel tap, fuel cap and front number race board.
Really impressed with AMS racing after having a real shit experience with a local Californian dealer. Dave Boydstun has been great. He also got me a lot of good Honda spares.
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cool, they have nice website and nice to hear some positive feedback. I bought some guards off DC plastics recently and they were really good as well.
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Fuel taps & fuel caps are still available new from Suzuki. You should try your local Suzuki dealer first, you will be surpised what is actually still available. I've seen fuel caps and taps advertised on ebay as NOS at inflated prices, giving the illusion they are hard to get, when in fact they are just readily available new stock.
Cheers,
K
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Hi marcFX, I note you mentioned a HL. Have you built one or in the process? Are there pics in the forum?
I am about to receive the kit from GMC and looking forward to the build.
John
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http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=5823.0
try this
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http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=5996.0
this is the head for the stage 2 motor I am building for the HL
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Could the Yamahahahah Mutants please return to the yamahahahaha page thanks :D
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Thanks for the info marcFX. The RM370 looks great. Its one of the bikes thats on my "to buy" list. I have restored an IT490K and PE400X and am currently working on an XT500G. The HL500 is the next project.
Do you plan to get the RM dirty?
John
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you must have a Yamaha hidden away some place Bill.
;D
Anyway John, I held back spare tank for the 370 so i didn't have to scratch the paint.
I got older fatter and slower so probably better to ride a 4 stroke ;D ;D
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been posted lots of times before but for those whom may not have seen here be my contribution. I'm very partial to my 400C but I have had for 30 years ;) Being such a light bloke I've suspended it with RM125C suspension front and rear a while back, tuned it all in to how I like and changed a few other little things but she's pretty stock otherwise. Still puts the fear of God into me sometimes especially after hoping off the TM125 :o whack it in third and forget it..feels like a superbike! ;D
(http://abhzmq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8sL73QWUP1qENdbqLO0UaRY0UYL5PO2-YaGpgsTuB8hGoUMV210IGipq9nhlpdaOpmkBq12CGj8/rm400c%20001.jpg)
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Ok you got me ;D (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/trademebooks027.jpg)
There is this one and a couple of his relatives ;D
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This was my 370 :) i have sold it now :'( but i am SLOWLY building another ::) motor is all done Nos cases Nos cylinder many new gears, Nos clutch, Nos rod kit etc :)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/IMG_0198.jpg)
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Hi Bill, I really liked your 370, wasn't that the one with optional Mag rear hub.
Might have cheated a bit and guessed you still had the 125A in the shed. Not many garages only have one brand of bike round here ;D
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Thats the one Marc :) luckily iv'e found another Nos mag hub for the Mk 2 version :) Mikes doing the tank for me in Fox colours . I have a Thor arm and Fox shocks but im short a set of Simons forks for a replica , still no hurray its all on the 2 do list :D
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OK guys heres one of each. A Suzuki and Yamaha.
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Jezz, the RM370 would have to be one of the best looking bikes of all time.
John
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Bloody hell John they are mint 8) well done mate :) keep us updated with the HL project :)
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... I'm very partial to my 400C but I have had for 30 years ;) (http://abhzmq.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p8sL73QWUP1qENdbqLO0UaRY0UYL5PO2-YaGpgsTuB8hGoUMV210IGipq9nhlpdaOpmkBq12CGj8/rm400c%20001.jpg)
Wow Doc, was it raining Armour-All that day? It'll last 3000 years with that embalming! ;) :D ;D
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hey hl which is better to ride it490 or pe400
and the rm 370 is one of the best looking
production bikes very close to works bikes 8)
heres my baby ;D
not the 370 the 500
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85 model RM500 were the first with disk brake
only 6 of them were brought into australia...
your a lucky man holeshot buddy......
or is the front end off another bike....
still its a very nice 500....
good job... :)
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mmmmm...after a good optic at CD5 I really liked that particular bike you have there Rusty 8)..especially the weight or lack thereof ;)
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heres my baby ;D
not the 370 the 500
wow, nice love the RN83 look, what side covers did you use RM125.
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look again andrew
its been made up from scratch
basis is rm125e 1984 frame :o
motor stroked to 540cc
factory pipe and barrel
boost bottle (yes boost bottle) and it works :o
adj struts white power shock etc etc etc
like doc said it weighs 97kg with oil and 4 ltrs fuel 8)
cool eh everything is drilled and hollowed
to much time on my hands ;D
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hey hl which is better to ride it490 or pe400
and the rm 370 is one of the best looking
production bikes very close to works bikes 8)
heres my baby ;D
not the 370 the 500
I like the stand a lot better than the bike... ;D
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The IT490 is a better ride with more power although you can guess this particular one doesn't see much rain. But I like the PE400 because there aren't as many about particularly in good condition. The PE actually has a higher seat height and only 250mm travel. The IT has awesome power but there are many about.
Thats why I building the HL500. It will be based on an enduro theme with lights and big tank with IT blue plastic. The bike Yamaha should have built.
John
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The bike Yamaha should have built.
I liked mine that way too....
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look again andrew
its been made up from scratch
basis is rm125e 1984 frame :o
motor stroked to 540cc
factory pipe and barrel
boost bottle (yes boost bottle) and it works :o
adj struts white power shock etc etc etc
like doc said it weighs 97kg with oil and 4 ltrs fuel 8)
cool eh everything is drilled and hollowed
to much time on my hands ;D
awesome lets hope I can make something out of my mule of a RM500
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look again andrew
its been made up from scratch
basis is rm125e 1984 frame :o
motor stroked to 540cc
factory pipe and barrel
boost bottle (yes boost bottle) and it works :o
adj struts white power shock etc etc etc
like doc said it weighs 97kg with oil and 4 ltrs fuel 8)
cool eh everything is drilled and hollowed
to much time on my hands ;D
Thats a very nice bike HB, you had that at CD4 broadford and i was checking it out. how much work was it to shoehorn the 500 into the 125 frame? what did you do to get it to 540cc?
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quite a bit of work to get it to fit
swingarm gap was same
had to reposition bottom mounts
and make front mounts
and shave down some of the finning on barrel and head :'(
its a tight fit i can get head off
but to remove barrel i have to lift it up
and pop a circlip on piston
push out pin and lift off with piston inside :'(
fitted rm 500 tank and got right angle same as
works bike made seat used rm125 base 8)
the amount of lightening i did was out of control
inside motor everything drilled and polished
stroked 5 mm boost ported factory cylinder
balanced engine factory pipe hand made muffler
40mm kiehin flatslide carbon reeds boost bottle 8)
the bike is basically new, billet rear adj struts
white power shock modified forks aluminium brake pedal and kick start
i stroked motor to get it how they were back when i raced one
makes them very grunty 4 speed box mainly use third and fourth
will start in third, have had trouble with electrics but i think its all fixed
just gunna play with gearing now a bit to suit motor
will have it at cd6 hoony you can have a ride if you like you too doc
handles unreal ;D ;D we better get back to the 370s ::)
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hell know, feel free to stick with the 540., I am blow away.
what do you think about fitting the RM500d frame with the 84 125 plastic. Seeing I am painting mine I am considering that option.
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mudguards no problem
but exhaust exits on rh side on mine
so side covers wont fit yours :'(
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AH HA! I thought I'd seen Rusty's bike before; back then I didn't know who's it was.
Snapped here at Connondale 07:
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mudguards no problem
but exhaust exits on rh side on mine
so side covers wont fit yours :'(
weld on some tabs, reroute the exhaust, doesn't sound too massive task.
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Nice Suzukis and Yammies boys
RM's Yz's, depends what day of the week, i have a soft spot for all of them, I must say it took a while for this little Rm to grow on me, It rides quite nice with the 6 speed box
OLDYZMAN