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Title: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on December 19, 2008, 03:56:02 pm
decided to make a motoxfox replica 125 dont know what colour rims any sugestions  ;D
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: cyclegod on December 19, 2008, 04:21:16 pm
Just my opinion, but BLACK rims look fuggin' awful except on modern bikes when fitted as OEM.

GO FOR GOLD
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: Hoony on December 19, 2008, 04:28:52 pm
i'm with CG, gold is classy in my opinion and black just looks shitful on old bikes.

but at the end of the day its your bike and your call.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: bigk on December 19, 2008, 04:42:42 pm
Gold is go.
Cheers,
K
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 19, 2008, 09:57:16 pm
as long as they are not too orangish
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on December 19, 2008, 10:36:31 pm
ill be using excels gold is the go i think
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: lukeb1961 on December 20, 2008, 05:49:03 am
i'm with CG, gold is classy in my opinion and black just looks shitful on old bikes.
hear! hear!
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: VMX Andrew on December 20, 2008, 08:02:41 am
yep you cant beat the good ol golden excel rims.... :)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on December 20, 2008, 08:18:22 am
Ummmm, you can with some period correct gold Sun Rims.... they are even the right colour gold ;D
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 20, 2008, 10:54:12 am
they (SUN) are what they used on the fox bikes back then. you can get them drilled for drum brake models
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: firko on December 20, 2008, 12:30:40 pm
With respect, Excel rims don't suit any vintage bike. The rim shape and contour and colours are all wrong and that big whopping Excel sticker on the rims is non period awful. If you want to make a good period replica Fox bike, use Sun rims like E74 suggested.
As far as black rims, I was one of the first to have black rims on my Maico 350 and thought they looked cool when I did it in the early 90s.  Today, I'm a little more sympathetic to period authenticity and I wouldn't think of any other colour than silver or on an evo bike, a subtle gold.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 20, 2008, 01:20:54 pm
im with firko on this. just altered my previous post to show i was meaning Sun and not excel, just in case that wasnt clear what brand i was talking about

but remember its your choice
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: YSS on December 20, 2008, 01:30:25 pm
Les at Mainly Maico has now his new wheelbuilding maschine , he can now drill any rim you want .You can supply the new rim or he will get one in to suit .
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 20, 2008, 01:32:50 pm
can he drill blank un-dimpled Sun rims?
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on December 20, 2008, 02:04:37 pm
You can buy the rims with buchanan S/S spokes from Vintage Iron, Nil hassal and always gets it right, or you can also get them from Back in the Day MX.

Here are the set I got of Vintage Iron for my YZ465, absolutely neat as!

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/hemiy09/003-6.jpg)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: YSS on December 20, 2008, 02:06:25 pm
Yes he can do that with  that maschine . I also built a second one again for our selfs here, or sell it to any interested professional wheel builder (except Sydney area). The first one I built for Link in Queensland and it saves them lots of time.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: firko on December 20, 2008, 03:59:42 pm
If you're going to build a replica of anything you have to do it as faithfull to the original as possible. That would have to include Thor swingarm, Simons forks and Fox Shox. Going by the below photos the Fox bike has Silver DID or Akronts. The rims in the photo aren't Suns like I thought they had. I'm not sure the bike photographed is a genuine bike or not, I suspect it's not going by the unpainted pipe which wasn't the fashion in '77, so the real deal probably did have Sun rims. I'll keep looking for a photo of an original bike.
http://vintagefactory.com/1977_motox_fox_suzuki_rm125.htm (http://vintagefactory.com/1977_motox_fox_suzuki_rm125.htm)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/FOXRM18.jpg)
(http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1062154/FOXRM3.jpg)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 20, 2008, 04:12:21 pm
they probably used aftermarket DID's aswell, but the Moto X fox RM preparation book i have only mentions Suns. i would have genuine perod fox RM pics in that book or in a fox catalogue or on computer somemwhere.
that bike just looks like a replica Scott Stegar built from parts.

im pretty sure Fox had their own swing arms too so you might not have to have a Thor

i was just reading that book and not all the Fox 125's has Simons forks. some riders still used the stock ones and modified the std forks with Simons or Fox fork kit. Mark Barnett was one of those
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 20, 2008, 04:54:45 pm
some pics

http://www.vintagefactory.com/Fox%2012.jpg

here shows the photo they based bike 12 on

http://www.vintagefactory.com/arm_pump__11.8.06.htm
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on December 21, 2008, 04:56:00 pm
ill be changing one or two small things ill be running silver rims now but i will be running a dg head and a rm125b nos genune option swing arm instead of a bosh one as i cant find one :-\
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 21, 2008, 05:29:13 pm
ahhh Bosch was the spark plugs they used not brand of swingarm. since you have a DG head maybe you could make a DG replica 125?

isnt there someone making replica Thor swingarms???
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on December 21, 2008, 05:35:19 pm
sorry thor im having one of those days my bad  ::)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: TM BILL on December 24, 2008, 08:56:54 am
ill be changing one or two small things ill be running silver rims now but i will be running a dg head and a rm125b nos genune option swing arm instead of a bosh one as i cant find one :-\

I have a Thor swinging arm and correct length Fox air shocks i will sell if your interested  :)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: LWC82PE on December 24, 2008, 09:22:09 am
correct length airshox would be  about 17" im pretty sure thats what they used, but only with aftermarket swing arm too.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: mposs on December 24, 2008, 09:52:35 am
This replica was at 2007 Classic Dirt at Broadford - looked good with the silver rims.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on December 24, 2008, 07:18:21 pm
email sent bill  ;D
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: TM BILL on December 24, 2008, 07:47:17 pm
correct length airshox would be  about 17" im pretty sure thats what they used, but only with aftermarket swing arm too.

Yep they are very long and lay down at about 45 degrees with Thor arm, the shocks are currently on a 79 cr 250 but they are a bit long for that  :)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: Kane Mcguire on December 28, 2008, 11:31:55 pm
im rebuilding my 125 b after a few years of hard racing and have bought black rims cause of personal taste. going to do yellow frame also.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: Kane Mcguire on December 28, 2008, 11:36:48 pm
hey tm bill. how much for thor swing arm and fox shocks? and anyone got a webco or dg head or any other bits for 125 b?
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: TM BILL on December 29, 2008, 11:59:04 am
Caps has got first refusal on the swinging arm and shocks , but if we dont do the deal ill let you know :)
I have a second hand DG head for a 125B open to offers  :)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on December 29, 2008, 05:41:46 pm
I am intersted in the head 4 sure, I will PM ya   ;)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on December 29, 2008, 06:31:15 pm
This replica was at 2007 Classic Dirt at Broadford - looked good with the silver rims.

anyone know who owns this bike?
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: bigk on December 29, 2008, 07:15:51 pm
Pretty sure he's from Myrtleford but I can't remember his name. He's been into the shop a couple of times and has a lot of 80cc bikes as well. Someone may know him. The bike looked trick at CD4, prompted me to do the 370.
Cheers,
K
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: Kane Mcguire on December 29, 2008, 08:29:30 pm
let me know about head, etc if available, tm bill.
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on January 04, 2009, 08:57:19 pm
Bill, what happened with the swingarm etc??
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: TM BILL on January 04, 2009, 09:01:19 pm
Been  bit busy at this end will post pics ASAP , Darren as discussed head is yours if your still keen and Caps has first refusal on swinging arm & shocks Bill  :)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on January 04, 2009, 10:08:14 pm
Been  bit busy at this end will post pics ASAP , Darren as discussed head is yours if your still keen and Caps has first refusal on swinging arm & shocks Bill  :)


Well if he doesn't hurry up and refuse them soon, I'll grab 'em of ya.... :D ;)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on January 04, 2009, 10:47:07 pm
hey i still want these put the claws away e74  :D
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: TM BILL on January 05, 2009, 10:12:12 am
Sorry guys i am flat out at the moment will get those pics to you  :)
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: caps 999 on January 05, 2009, 11:24:05 am
its cool bill no rush its not too high on the priority list at the moment
Title: Re: rm125 moto x fox replica
Post by: E74 on January 12, 2009, 09:08:18 pm
from the FOX cataloge back in the day, as I said they all used Sun Rims

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/hemiy09/sunrims.jpg)