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Title: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:18:37 pm
Still on the hunt for a Classic speedway solo but struggling to find out exactly qualifies and seems there is a wide response from those you ask  ::)

Any how if you come across a pre 86 speedway solo for sale please pass on my details, in the meantime if your interested here are some bikes i have come across in my travels to inspire me to keep going to find out whats classic and get one for me own to love sum  ;D
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:21:59 pm
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Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:22:56 pm
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Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:28:10 pm
Suss this flat top head must be a rare one
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Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:29:02 pm
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Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:29:49 pm
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Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:30:38 pm
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Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: paul on November 06, 2008, 03:36:19 pm
this is finished but theres a phone number
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230305020864&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 03:41:12 pm
Yep thats the bike in the 5th post, i been speaking to that paul already.  Hes pulled it as it wasnt meeting his reserve i guess, he bought a few in from the UK i think.  hes into all these bikes by the sound of it.

Thats also the confusion,  differing states seem to have differant ideas on whats in or out of the period, i might have to get onto the local guys and find out what they will let me ride, i just dont want to play with the big boys, and want somthing already dated and can ride around the back of the pack with the old fellas :O)

Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: firko on November 06, 2008, 04:15:16 pm
Freaky...Up until recently classic speedway was restricted to 2 valve engines in period frames. In NSW and I'd asume the rest of the country, the class has recently been opened up to accept basically any 2 or 4 valve engine in an upright frame with conventional forks (no leading link forks). So, all you need to find is a speedway bike with an upright engine, much like all of the photos you've posted. It shouldn't be too hard to find one, I was at the recent Nepean speedway meeting and there were a number of classics with for sale written on them.
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 05:16:02 pm
so i thought, Well thats the rule of thumb i was using but for some reason i came onstuck with some folks getting into a debate on the 4 valve thing, the rods to cams, oil loss thing and a few other curve balls, its not set out as clearly as our MX/ Dt consise list is in the Moms.

Where the bikes for sale speedway 500's  or dirt track sliders im unfarmiliar with nepean i though they did Dt there ?  Im guessing you took no photos of them or would the club know who they were ?

JIm did you go to that meeting and have you any PHone numbers for me ? 
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: firko on November 06, 2008, 05:50:29 pm
There's a good speedway in the centre of the dirt track at Nepean. The bikes for sale were speedway bikes, not sliders. I didn't bother taking any photos but if you're serious I can make some phone calls. I'm going away for a few days tomorrow morning but I'm travelling with the bloke with probably the best classic speedway bike collection in the land so I'll pump him for info on what may be available.
I'll PM you if I find out anything.
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 07:13:18 pm
Cool thanks.  Also i re looked in the moms and it say 2 valve blah blah , if they have opened up the rules on bike criteria do you thing the MOMS will publish that change ?
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: firko on November 06, 2008, 07:34:52 pm
I don't have anything to do with classic speedway but from what I've seen and heard, they don't take too much notice of the rulebook up here. They don't run big meetings or championships, it's purely a low key club level thing and they run 4 valves. The two valve scene in both speedway has faded away to the point that something has to be done to keep it all alive. In dirt track champ meets it's still 2 valve but I notice the 4 valve , or evo class creeping in unofficially. It's only a matter of time. On another tack, 2 valve speedway bikes cost a lot more than an old Wessy or an 894 Jawa right now. Get your 4 valve before the prices sky rocket.
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: shorelinemc on November 06, 2008, 08:15:55 pm
are they any good with with big nails hanging out if the tyre? does it get cold enough down south for an ice racing bike? (this would have been a much better reply in winter) but they is one for sale in qld
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Tim754 on November 06, 2008, 08:25:52 pm
Freaky ,I am hoping that this link from the SSRaV works. It is the supp regs Document for the next Vic classic titles.  http://www.ssrav.org.au/2009%20Classic%20Suppregs.doc   you may have to go to their website find the notice and download it from there. It lists the racing classes for the titles. May help you in what to look for. Tim
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 06, 2008, 09:36:40 pm
Kewl link thanks tim, but seems to say the same thin its 2 valve age, then 4 vavle whcih i assume are both uprights only but it dont say that.

nor mention of the oil loss motors or ign ? maybe its a free for all ?


IM not sure about the ice tyres shorelin but im sure they can come prity easy, if you know where there is one up in Qld.     
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Tim754 on November 06, 2008, 10:42:02 pm
Yes they are all up rights Freaky  ;)
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: firko on November 06, 2008, 10:42:18 pm
Most of the eligible engines are total loss Freaky. I may be wrong but I didn't think the recirculating oiling systems cam in until the laydowns. With ignitions, many of the 2 valve guys are going over to PVL and modern ignitions so it doesn't seem to be a worry what they use.
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: jimg1au on November 06, 2008, 11:47:38 pm
mark
i had a s/s jawa upright with recirculating oiling system.this was the last jawa i sold.pvl std
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: jimg1au on November 06, 2008, 11:52:32 pm
COMPETITION CLASSES
9.1.   A.   Solo         Rider Under 45   2 Valve   
   B.   Solo      Rider over 45   2 Valve
   C.   Solo      Evolution   4 Valve Upright
   D.   Sidecar      Japanese (900cc KAWASAKI’S WILL NOT BE ALLOWED)
   E.   Sidecar      British / American
   F.   Sidecar      Evolution (Standard frame)   2 Valve
   G.   Sidecar      Evolution (Lowline Frame)   2 Valve

class c evo the class the weslake on ebay you sent me

DUMPING OF OIL & FUEL:   Is prohibited and is a reportable offence; drums will be supplied for this purpose. E.P.A REGULATIONS: Oil discharge. There is an oil waste drum in the pit area. Bikes with no oil catch tank must NOT discharge oil on the ground when warming up. Please supply a catch tray for waste oil.
catch tanks ??????  do you guys not read




Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: jimg1au on November 07, 2008, 12:03:11 am
ask questions here for whats going on in south australia
http://www.gillmanspeedway.com/release.asp?NewsId=28689

they have 2valve and 4 valve racing
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: pancho on November 08, 2008, 11:19:14 am
hello freaky i dont know what area you live in but at the meet at nepean this weekend 9th the fellows from rapid image.com will be there with pics for sale and i know they have shots from the speedway events there. you can check them out.you can also look on thier website if you have patience.... their web site is difficult to connect .cheers wally
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 09, 2008, 11:13:20 pm
Heres a strange one, been offerd an Antig with a TM 250 motor so it must be a long tracker or something but its missing the forks and wheel,  looks like only a small stem fits in it, so whats the go wih tripple and forks for these puppies ?  what fits and from where would you start looking, curiousity has got the bette of me.

still on the hunt for a 898 Jawa or wessy also
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: jimg1au on November 09, 2008, 11:20:36 pm
kerry
look in the antig/cat i sent you the forks are in there on page 16.you can also fit hagon forks or elstar forkes.at the moment i am fittig a set of early mini bike forks and a 23 " honda xl front wheel to my hagon.how much is the antig i might want it if you dont
cheers
jim
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: Freakshow on November 10, 2008, 11:51:21 am
he started talking about $1500, but i haven started working on himn yet    :OP

The mini bike forks are the same pogo stick ? what did you use for the triples and stem di you already have that in the frame ?
Title: Re: Still on the Hunt for a classic speedway ride
Post by: jimg1au on November 10, 2008, 12:39:46 pm
i have alloy top and botton tripples and locked bearings inthe tripples so they turn and not the spindle bolt.when finished i will send you a pic.