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Clubroom => Tech Talk => Topic started by: maicomc490t on October 20, 2008, 12:37:47 pm
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Right now I am looking at expanding my workshop to include a very expensive 'toy'.
We are looking at purchasing $20K plus worth of water blaster ie a wet abrasive blaster sometimes referred to as a vapour blaster which are renowned for producing the best and safest finish available with none of the problems associated with dry blasters eg dust and heavy residual build up of compacted blasting media eg in oil galleries (which should by rights be blanked off anyway). Coupled with a large capacity dry blasting cabinet, dust extraction system and Hydrovane compressor this will enable most work to be carried out at what will be very competitive pricing.
This form of blasting gets, without doubt, the very best results while maintaining a very durable and easy to maintain finish arguably better than the finish from the factory foundries. While many types of blasting media can be used it is anticipated that this machine will be a dedicated glass bead in suspension set up.
I do not anticipate relying only on the VMX or even the overall motorcycle fraternity in general as these machines can tackle virtually anything that will fit inside them and can have wide reaching industrial applications.
My question is: Will the restorers among us in VMX use this service???
Let me know what you think as your reaction will be valued as to whether the service will be made available to or targeted at the old bike crowd.
Cheers,
Dave Mac
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depends on where you are Dave and what kind of postage hurdles will need to be jumped etc
the classic road bike builders could be a bigger more fussy market than us dirt bike guys.
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You've won me Dave. I've been using Impact Glass Beading, as have most of us in the west of Sydney for years but they don't offer vapor blasting. Good on you matey, you'll get work from us.
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dave its a long drive ;)
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not for me
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not for me
If it good and close for you Firko its probably gonna be good for me ;).
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You'll get plenty from me to!~... ;)
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Hey guys - so far so good :)
I only posted this today and already some good responses so I am thinking I am on the right track.
As for Paul - you got to my house and back to Melbourne in one day so you are welcome to repeat the trip and of course welcome any time, lol !!! :D
All good to date - thanks for the response so far - keep em coming and by start of business next year I'll be up and running.
Dave Mac
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23 hours dave there and back
ok then after yesterday. ive 5 ton of stuff for you to practise on lol
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Sorry Dave, not trying to steal your potential customers.
But Firko, vapour blasting is available in Western Sydney. The guys at Motographics in Lidcome have set up another business to provide this service. Can't think of the name off the top of my head but a call to Motographics 9748 3164 should point you in the right direction.
It is a great process, and far superior to glass bead basting.
Good luck Dave.
VMX42
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Yeh, just ask those guys for a "Big Stick" to complete the experience of dealing with them... ::)
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E74,
I'll take it you had a bad experience with them. I haven't used them myself but i have a mate who is into restoring Z1 Kawasakis and he has nothing but praise for their service.
Oh well.
VMX42
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Closer to Firko than Paul...........OK I give up.
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I owned a garnet wet blaster when I was in buisness which I used mainly on stainless steel.The process is very succesful on any material either ferrous or non ferrous,care must be taken not to cross-contaminate the glass media . The blaster was able to creep up on areas that require a fine go over and strong enough to rid a barrel of all coatings within 10 minutes . The satin finish is non porrious unlike glass beading and a corrosion inhibiter in the solution inables ferrous areas like a cast liner in a cylinder not to oxidize after treatment . 20k you say I can recall that the area inside the cadinet was about 1metre sq. and after some use the media lost some power I think that unit was @ 15k in 2001/2 and Iloved it . regards Jimbo.
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Hi Jimbo - As they say "the cheque is in the mail"
Your wise words are on the money. I will be running the wet blaster as a dedicated bead only machine as I have a perfectly good conventional blaster that can accommodate much larger items, mainly for paint prep with garnet or aluminium oxide, although it is a snap to change to any preferred blasting media.
I have hit the commit button and sent the deposit off to the guy who builds the water blasters today so come mid January we should be up and running. It's internal dimensions are ample for most bike components and the dry blaster with it's 1200x900x900 capacity will deal with the rest.
If my own restoration line up is anything to go by I am sure this machine is going to see more than it's fair share of work so as soon as things are bedded in I will let everyone know, and at this stage I am thinking I may also look into doing some metal polishing as required as the wet blasting is a great prep before the buffer.
Watch this space ;)
Cheers
Dave
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Your location for everybody's reference would be a big help Dave. Is it just me.
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Hi Col - sure mate.
I am in Sydney's north west.
I anticipate a mail out service would be in the wings for anyone who is a long way away and it is my intention to be as fair as possible with my pricing as I am enthusiast first, second and third! As a businessman (conjures up me wearing a suit - not likely, lol !) I'm afraid I am a very distant last.
For the record I am currently employed as a firey with the NSWFB but have a background in toolmaking and Ducati restoration so can tend to be VERY fussy on how I do other peoples work - time will be the judge of that, eh.
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Thats all good Dave. We have the where now all I/we need is the when. Without wanting to put to much pressure on I have a few
things that I need vapour blasting as we speak and would love to give you a go.
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Hi Col - no pressure at all.
The build time for the machine is approx 10 weeks so mid to late Jan will see it delivered and in use. As soon as I know more I will post it along with some pics of the finishes achieved. In the meantime my workshop is also in for a make over to accommodate the blaster and change air lines, plumb in water etc
Dave Mac
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We do mass fishing ( tumble finish parts from a matte finish to polished like the parts in the link below will yours come up like these what would a job lot like the cost approx
http://www.xtremefuelsystems.com.au/gallery.php?g2_itemId=277
http://www.xtremefuelsystems.com.au/gallery.php?g2_itemId=271