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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: 2 shocks on June 09, 2017, 05:38:02 pm

Title: PE 400
Post by: 2 shocks on June 09, 2017, 05:38:02 pm
Does anyone have a suggestion for new shockers for a PE 400, Hagen Shocks ??

Thanks Ken Baker
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: brent j on June 09, 2017, 06:17:24 pm
This will no doubt start various arguments but I'll be using YSS on both of mine, PE400T and my 250B
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 09, 2017, 07:29:21 pm
ol mate got a set for his PE 250 x  and I was half impressed...he got them in central vic somewhere...pretty good price...I  will see if I can get you a brand and contact
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: LWC82PE on June 09, 2017, 08:14:27 pm
That would have been Darrell Groat at Moose Racing Products/Hagon Oz.
I personally would look for something more serviceable/rebuildable/tuneable than Hagons for a PE though. I guess it depends on if you are going to ride it very seriously or much at all?
I have a friend in UK who is in the process of getting either Reigers or Ohlins custom built specifically for his PE. He tried to go cheap first and get some second hand Works and Marzocchis off something else but they required too much mods to make right for his PE so hes bit the bullet for a new custom set.
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 09, 2017, 10:20:19 pm
I think they were hagons..the first set were too soft so he got the springs changed and they were ok from there. I rode it a few times and was impressed ( ihad one years ago with DE Carbon shox). LW is on the money tho, whats the intended use of this bike?? part time Vinduro? or regular ride?? or vmx? as we look at each of these in order...the cost goes up!!
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: 2 shocks on June 10, 2017, 05:06:44 pm
THANKS ALL VINDURO IN VICTORIA NEXT YEAR IS THE PLAN SO MAYBE GO FOR UP MARKET SHOCKERS
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 10, 2017, 07:45:35 pm
check out YSS shocks (wasp)on this forum
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: John Orchard on June 10, 2017, 08:08:59 pm
l've been hearing good things about Gazi.
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: LWC82PE on June 11, 2017, 11:57:37 am
Don't overlook having the originals rebuilt either. RAD does a pretty good deal on doing them and they will be better than any cheap new shocks that are not of correct design/spec.
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 11, 2017, 07:29:19 pm
I found the std ones had dubious damping characteristics and the springs were "unsatisfactory" to say the least...
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: Quiggs66 on June 12, 2017, 04:37:20 pm
If you go Hagon, beware the length. Mine came 410mm long, which had the bike sitting very high (with heavy springs). I got Them shortened to the standard 400mm and it sits well. But apparently the task of shortening them was most painful.
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: Maicoman on June 12, 2017, 05:46:34 pm
Spoke to RADS the other day and they quoted me $300 to rebuild the original PE shocks on my 400. They can rechrome and grind shafts in house which keeps cost down.
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: LWC82PE on June 12, 2017, 07:17:31 pm
I found the std ones had dubious damping characteristics and the springs were "unsatisfactory" to say the least...

I realize that but if you address those areas they are going to better and more suited than many cheap shocks or shocks of incorrect design. These  long travel bikes need a proper gas shock with steel body, decent size shaft etc. The originals were that. Hardest part is finding good originals without bent shafts though. The plastic floating pistons with no piston guide bands (like other brands used)were prone to jamming.
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: Oldfart on June 12, 2017, 07:49:17 pm
Had a pair rebuilt 5 years ago by Rad and still going strong . Rodney has since modified his jig so they can be serviced .
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: Quiggs66 on June 13, 2017, 04:59:53 pm
Just an observation on my '82 PE250 is that the bushes on the shocks are different sizes left and right.  The drive side has larger bolts than the other side.  Anyone noticed this on their bike?
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: Wasp on June 13, 2017, 05:29:54 pm
Yes that is correct .Thats standard .
Title: Re: PE 400
Post by: Wasp on June 13, 2017, 05:38:09 pm
check out YSS shocks (wasp)on this forum

Yes I built many over the years . With piggy backs they only cost $899 per pair and without $599. http://store.suspensionshop.org/suzuki/mx/1970-1979.html