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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: Tossa on May 17, 2017, 02:07:02 pm

Title: IT250K
Post by: Tossa on May 17, 2017, 02:07:02 pm
Mate running a 250 at 25:1 using  Castrol TTS synthetic

I have been running my bikes at 40:1 (not IT)

Just wondering what everybody else is running ratios and plug.  Just think 25:1 with synthetic might cause problems, but i could be wrong

Barry
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on May 17, 2017, 05:51:46 pm
Tossa - this will open the old can of worms and run for many pages if history repeats!!!

25:1 should not be a problem - but then neither is 40:1 :)

Doesn't help much thought does it?
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Tossa on May 17, 2017, 07:36:18 pm
Tossa - this will open the old can of worms and run for many pages if history repeats!!!

25:1 should not be a problem - but then neither is 40:1 :)

Doesn't help much thought does it?

can you be he;pful for once, cheers Rossco
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 17, 2017, 08:17:53 pm
most synthetics can be run happily at 40:1.

25:1 is fine, just a waste of oil to a degree...smokey as well. the newer oils work better at the higher ratios...

in synthetic two stroke oils, they are using a  light base or a deep base . light bases are used by the most common oils and 30 - 50: 1 is the leanest I would run these oils. motorex fully synthetic is a deep base oil and I have run this quite successfully with no issues at 100:1 in the new kato, the old husky and all the powered tools in the shed. id still be using but the kato shop closed and I love the smell of the castor 727...
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Ted on May 17, 2017, 09:18:42 pm
That'd be 927
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Tossa on May 17, 2017, 11:29:35 pm
thanks guya.  My thought were towards the 40:1 with new age oils and fuels
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Rossvickicampbell on May 18, 2017, 06:54:57 am
if it does help Baz - I have run my YZ on 40:1 Silkolene synthetic for years now and never had an engine issue.
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Slakewell on May 18, 2017, 08:13:25 am
Search the forum as it has been done before with many good ideas and replies for and against many methods. I run mineral oil at about 30 to 1 as I believe it helps transfer heat better in air cooled bikes.
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Tossa on May 19, 2017, 11:18:56 am
I run my bikes at 40:1 and had no problems, just wondered why he would run at 25:1 with fully synthetic.  Ah well when i pick it up tomorrow I'll change to what i run in everything else.  thanks for your input

Barry
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: kim80y on May 19, 2017, 04:28:43 pm
Run my IT"s and YZs at same ratio as 1st post with same oil.
Have for 20 years.
Cheers
Kim
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: HeavenVMX on May 19, 2017, 06:06:18 pm
http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=13351.60

Interestingly 20:1 through 33:1 seems very popular in above thread. What advantage does running 50:1 have?

Makes no difference to jetting once you jet for a ratio you use.

Thicker oils such as Motul 800 are meant for leaner ratios as they have a heavier base.

Run 25:1 TTS no smoke, no plug problems in air cooled bikes

Use TTS at 32:1 as recommended by Yamaha in '05 YZ250.
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 19, 2017, 06:10:54 pm
I used tts at 30:1 in a kdx years ago with no dramas and then had a lc husky and I used silkolene at 50:1...everyone was in shock...ran like a dream, crisp, no pooh at the pipe...I used the silkolene pro at one meet which had octane booster in it. was expensive but dealer was out of std stuff so he gave me a bottle for the same price. it was in the last drum at the final fuel stop and about 10 kms into the last section the bike suddenly took off with a noticeable kick in the pants...was impressive but not on my budget at the time.
your safe as houses at 40:1
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: b490 on May 19, 2017, 08:41:46 pm
 I have a small variety of 2 stroke bikes ;
 All run on:
 BP 98  ( my preferred  choice )  fuel
 All  mixed on Castrol TTS  Synthetic  oil  ; 
 Vintage  (air  & w/cooled ) @  32:1
 Modern  bike @ 40:1 
 Same oil  used   in 1  modern  auto- lube bike as well;
 Chain saw / trimmer / mowers  get the surplus  pre mixed  fuel .
  One brand of 2 stroke  oil for  all   ; one choice of fuel for all
  Tuned right ; All run clean ;
 
  Regards ,
                  Steve

 
 
 
 
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: evo550 on May 19, 2017, 09:22:37 pm
The oil manufacturer recommends the ratio to run their oils at.....
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Tossa on May 20, 2017, 10:15:07 pm
I have run both my 74 HuskY Mag250 and my 79 WR250 at 40:1 using TTS with no problems at all.  That is using 98 fuel
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: ITDOG on May 21, 2017, 12:44:00 am
Use 32.1 TTS she will be sweet...trust me Baz this will blow smoke right in Lexs smug face 8)
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: BSA-B5 on May 22, 2017, 09:09:29 am
An engine must be lubricated, I have never blown up motor, always used a fuel mix of 25.1. never had a problem.
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: 80-85 husky on May 22, 2017, 06:08:43 pm
always use a quality oil...ive run 100:1 ..never had an issue ;D hardly make any smoke....

in summary I rekon this is a good rule of thumb...

pre 78 --25:1 mineral

a/c post 78 --25:1 mineral - 40: 1 synthetic

L/c 40:1 synth.

how does that sound??
Title: Re: IT250K
Post by: Tossa on May 29, 2017, 08:51:21 pm
always use a quality oil...ive run 100:1 ..never had an issue ;D hardly make any smoke....

in summary I rekon this is a good rule of thumb...

pre 78 --25:1 mineral

a/c post 78 --25:1 mineral - 40: 1 synthetic

L/c 40:1 synth.

how does that sound??

Yeah I'm with 25:1 mineral, 40:1 synthetic