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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: miniwheels on August 05, 2008, 10:32:14 pm
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Not sure if this has been posted before but seems to be a new mag out called motorcyclist retro in the USA , looks to cover vintage dirt and road classic bikes http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/newsandupdates/122_0804_motorcyclist_retro/index.html, maybe a good read in between VMX issues.
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Hey Miniwheels,
I have a copy of Motorcyclist Retro [don't ask how] and it is a good read. They cover the broad spectrum of the Retro bike movement - from late 60's till the 80's [from memory]. Dirt and road, MX and Road Racing, minis, dirt track etc, etc.
I have just heard from the editor that they have been approved by their publisher to go bi-monthly next year and offer subscriptions - so you will be able to get ahold of it through the mail.
It is a good addition to VMX.
VMX42
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sounds good. and that pommy one, is it classic motorcycle mechanics, is a good read too - who'da thought there'd be so many obscure little seventies and eighties japanese (and other) commuter bikes and middleweight road bikes and stuff still around in 2008?
good to have lots of choice in reading matter. like vmxman, who came over to my place last saturday to get me to weld some metal on his RM125S footpegs to keep his footsies on....and paid with a big stack of old '07 and '08 Transworld Motocross and Racer X magazines - woohoo!!
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Whatever happened to Doughtys Retro Moto magazine?http://www.retromotomagazine.com/index.html (http://www.retromotomagazine.com/index.html)
I've got reports back from my American friends that it's pretty awful. Anybody here seen a copy?
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Firko,
Ken showed me a copy when he came and stole my Motorcyclist Retro mag. I can't say it is impressive but I am sure they are all very proud of it [as the Yanks always are]. I wonder if issue 2 will surface?
But no, I won't be subscribing, even if it is cheap.
VMX42
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Hi Guys,
Here is a look at the cover of Issue 2 of Motorcyclist Retro. Should be available [if you know someone in the US] in about 4 weeks. Looks like a good issue.
Mitch asked that I let you know that it is also available electronically at: on www.zinio.com <http://www.zinio.com
Thanks
VMX42
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Have spotted this new RETRO mag advertisemnet in RACER X mag, along with a few pages of VMX Throwback Days,with of course a Maico on the first page :-\ ;)
great to see another VMX write up in a 08 mag ;D
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Firko,
Ken showed me a copy when he came and stole my Motorcyclist Retro mag. I can't say it is impressive but I am sure they are all very proud of it [as the Yanks always are]. I wonder if issue 2 will surface?
But no, I won't be subscribing, even if it is cheap.
VMX42
Please, please do not associate Mr Doughty with my nationality......am I supposed to think you are f.....g crocodile dundee, Angus Young or some other bull..it? VMX is THE Vintage Motocross publication period-there have been others who tried , but not worth the $.
Thanks MJ
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James...I hope you didn't think I was criticising Americans! I've got Michael McCook from Pennsylvania staying here right now and he has a similar opinion to nearly everyone about Doughty and his rag.
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The check is in the mail Maicojames... ;)
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Hey MJ,
Actually yes, I F@%king I do! But for some reason the wild water buffalo don't seem to respect my Croc Dundee/School Boy outfit!! Don't know what it is? Might be my white knobbly knees or perhaps the fear in my eyes or maybe the size of my boy scout pen-knife?
VMX42
P.S. if you really don't want Mr Doughty, you always have Guantanamo Bay. They don't seem particulary selective in their entrance requirements and they seem quite happy to personally collect their candidates, free of charge, from almost anywhere in the world. Give them a call…
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Hey MJ,
Actually yes, I F@%king I do! But for some reason the wild water buffalo don't seem to respect my Croc Dundee/School Boy outfit!! Don't know what it is? Might be my white knobbly knees or perhaps the fear in my eyes or maybe the size of my boy scout pen-knife?
VMX42
P.S. if you really don't want Mr Doughty, you always have Guantanamo Bay. They don't seem particulary selective in their entrance requirements and they seem quite happy to personally collect their candidates, free of charge, from almost anywhere in the world. Give them a call…
And all Americans are supporters of the Irag war, Gauntanamo Bay fiasco, Bush and everything that goes with it? Hmmmmm. I have not made any statements here to support that. In fact, I have been quite vocal here about situations when I thought people were misrepresenting bikes from the US, I think trying to take advantage of OZ VMX riders.
BTW for the most part, the US Vintage Racers hold all the OZ VMX racers in very high regard, as the most dedicated, and innovative in the world. Your bigoted rant has done nothing to change that, either.
So, it's so nice to see the lack of predjudice in our world today!!!
Cheers
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Sorry MJ,
I never tried to offend you, although I seem to have made a pretty good fist of it without trying.
Read it again and you might just see that I was joking!!!!!!!! You know… humour [or as you know it humor].
All this seems agro to have stemmed from my initial throwaway comment about Americans always being proud of things that eminate from their country [you might not see that in yourself, but that is the way the US is portrayed to the rest of the world - and who is to say it is a bad thing].
All the other assumptions you have made are just that, assumptions - funny that is exactly what you have so eloquently and forcefully accused me of. You seem to have gone out of your way to read between the lines, when in fact there was nothing there to read.
And yes, I am aware of the enthusiastic assistance you have offered to the OzVMXers - a generous offer and well received and appreciated. The regard between VMX enthusiasts that you speak of is reciprocated and enjoyed by the members of this site.
If I have affended you, I am sorry. But again, it was a joke - I thought the Croc Dundee/School boy outfit might have given it away.
VMX42
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MJ, if you want to know if it was a joke, just picture VMX42 in short pants, now that would be worth a giggle.
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Ah Magoo, I can always rely on you… Just be thankful I didn't mention the war!
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You started it, you invaded Poland.
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Only after you shot the Arch Duke!!!
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...Your bigoted rant has done nothing to change that, either.
So, it's so nice to see the lack of predjudice in our world today!!!
Cheers
Hey James, maybe it's a cultural thing? As an Aussie I recognised vmx42's 'tongue in cheek' attitude when I read his post so I was disappointed (and a bit embarrassed) you thought he was having a go at the US; or you personally. Once again the written word has offended coz there's no 'body language' to go with it. ::)
I think if we were all chatting at a BBQ it wouldn't have seemed so abrasive.
As far as Iraq and the Cuban jail goes we all differ in attitudes there. 'Pro' and 'anti' voices abound in both our Countries - opinions will vary despite Nationality.
Here in OZ we're absolutely saturated with American 'culture' - and that can be persuasive.
But what I've seen on the telly is very different to the Americans I've met and spent time with.
I doubt anyone thinks all Americans are like Paris and Nicole or Ashley and Mary Kate! Or George Bush and Oliver North! :D ;)
I'm sure the average bloke in the average American street is a lot like yourself; and you come across as a pretty decent sort of bloke. I'd rather live next door to decent Yank than an arsehole Aussie! 8)
Attitude counts for much. I'm sure no offence was intended.
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Well put Wombat. Ive got an American vintage racer staying here with me and we've just come home from his first meeting with Aussies in a pub. He was more than a little freaked out by us calling each other c*#ts or pricks. Once he understood the Aussie sense of humour he settled down and started to enjoy our exchanges. I know James and I know VMX42 and they are both good people and I hope James realises that this was merely a cultural misunderstanding. The ties VMX ties between our two countries are too strong to be put off by a little bit of misunderstood humour.
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Sorry, dude. My misinterpretation of comments( due to my lack of clutural awareness-I guess that's is one US sterotype that holds true with me LOL)
Thanks for the kind words. Again to topic, Only VMX has hte quality that a magazine covering the most beautiful point in time of the most beautiful sport deserves. It would be nice here in the US if somehting covered the vintage MX and Vinduro more, but that does not appear possible.
New question, how did VMX mag start out with it's format of vintage mx, and not a bunch of vintage road bikes etc? Were they confident that they would have worldwide distribution rather quickly? The copy rags seem to try to appease any and all in the older bikes spectrum-and fail. Maybe a short on how VMX mag started?
Thanks, MJ
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Newsflash......
SAN FRANCISCO MAN BECOMES FIRST AMERICAN TO GRASP SIGNIFICANCE OF SARCASM
Chuck Fullmer, 38, yesterday became the first American to get to grips with the concept of sarcasm.
"It was weird" Fullmer said. "I was in London and like, talking to this guy and it was raining and he pulled a face and said,
"Great weather eh?" and I thought
"Wait a minute, no way is it great weather".
Fullmer then realised that the other man's 'mistake' was in fact deliberate.
Fullmer, who is 39 next month and married with two children, aged 8 and 3, plans to use sarcasm himself in future.
"I'm, like, using it all the time" he said.
"Last weekend I was grilling steaks and I burned them and I said "Hey, great weather."
Sorry James, I had to throw that in, couldn't help myself ;D
Like Wombat said "But what I've seen on the telly is very different to the Americans I've met and spent time with."
Having spent 3 months in the USA many years back I can vouch for the genuine hospitality I recieved from complete strangers.
I think VMX Mag probably stayed with off-road stuff only becuase that's where Ray's passion was.
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HI Guys,
The story of how VMX started was covered in one of Rays very early editorials. I wll trawl through the files and see if I can find it.
It makes interesting reading [from memory] and is probably quite pertinent when we are talking about VMX being a very inclusive and non-judgemental environment… Vintage Motocross opened its arms to Ray at a time when he need it more than it needed him. Quite ironic really as subsequently VMX needed him far more… life is strange.
I will see what I can do.
Oh, and MJ, there is a cold one waiting for you, don't worry it is Aussie beer not Cuban!!
VMX42
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Thanks, and my apologoies. I am actually quite sarcastic, as well as pessimistic, and pompous..hmmm such endearing qualities ;D ;D ;D
BTW I got started in VMX in 1991, I needed it ( and still need it) more than I can conceive it will ever need me. Ray was a godsend to all of us IMO.
MJ