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Title: One for Dodgee
Post by: TM BILL on August 03, 2008, 09:41:40 pm
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Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Quicksilver on August 03, 2008, 09:54:52 pm
US $8,000.00  :o
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 04, 2008, 03:07:13 am
mmm..very nice example buuuut..getting a little anal..the front engine mount bolts are in backwards, the black ovals on the sidecovers look like something I'd do (almost a symetrical oval but not quite), ground areas in the rubber on the inlet manifold obviously modified to make for easier access to nuts...why??, sprocket cover in non original..still available new for about $25, I 'thought' the RM125M/S rear shocks had plastic shrouds? fork protectors are held on with zip ties and not the white 'Nitto' tape as per factory specifications :P warning label on tank looks crooked or maybe the sticker is straight but the tank is crooked?? a very nice bike but for $8000 I'd rather buy dodgee's and save on shipping  ;)
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Freakshow on August 04, 2008, 11:20:12 am
it id be doggee either way
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: firko on August 04, 2008, 06:52:11 pm
With due respect to my Suzuki tragic colleagues, who'd pay 8K for one of those boring little pea shooters? Tell him he's dreaming son :-[
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: DJRacing on August 04, 2008, 08:34:34 pm
Firko your breaking TM Bills heart saying that, he thought he was well on the way to being a millionaire  ;D  ;D with prices like that.
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 05, 2008, 04:41:56 am
might not be worth $8000 this year but the way prices are going it won't be long. A restored 125A I was watching a few weeks back sold for over $6000US  ;) watch this space, the days of the $10000 jap vmx'ers is just around the corner!
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: STW996 on August 05, 2008, 05:52:36 am
Just need to correct quicky on one thing :o :o

Thats got to be a double mate

Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: TM BILL on August 05, 2008, 03:25:32 pm
With due respect to my Suzuki tragic colleagues, who'd pay 8K for one of those boring little pea shooters? Tell him he's dreaming son :-[

Firko you cant honestly call the RM 125M / S a "boring little pea shooter"
While i agree the blokes choking his chicken asking 8K these bikes have a significant place in motocross history.

The first model in arguably the most succsessfull production range of motocross bikes , The Suzuki RM range.

First Japanese production motocrosser to offer real world LTR suspension .
A bike that off the showroom floor would spank the highly modified and (until the realese of the RM) dominant 125 Elsinores.

Probably the bike that most made the previous years model obsolete , until the RM 125X made the T model obsolete.

Still cant think of other makes / models that stepped up so much from the previous models.

I dont agree that they are super rare ( maybe true original M models are thin on the ground)

I know 125s  dont butter everybodys cracker but give the original RMs a break
they earned there place in vmx history.

I feel better now , im off to give my S a hug  ;)
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: firko on August 05, 2008, 04:08:54 pm
OK Bill, as a fellow Suzuki tragic (I now own four!) I will amend my post. Omit "boring" and change that to "little pea shooter". My apologies dear friend.
 I'm so overcome with Suzuki goodwill that I found myself scooping up Nathans ER185 (or whatever it is) wheel and can now feel secure enough to enter into any future Suzuki footpeg discussion safe in the knowledge that I may soon be a part of the clique, if you chaps will have me. I think the tuning guru is a little cranky with me and others over "the Cheney Suzuki scandal" so this may not help me politically.
Who knows, this may lead to me one day owning the holy grail, a TS185 engined TM125, just like my old mate Jens. The lads at the Narellan pub will be so envious.
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Graeme M on August 05, 2008, 08:47:55 pm
I gotta agree with Bill. I've loved the looks of the little RM125M/S for 30 years, and now I own one I love its performance. They really are a great little bike. I rate it as more fun to ride than my RM400 and probably even the Husky CR500. If I had the money I'd be buying every one I could find. Boring? No way.

On second thoughts, not more fun than the Husky, that was an absolute weapon. I just couldn't get along with its handling and stupid left side kickstart...
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: TT5 Matt on August 05, 2008, 09:27:27 pm
Firko
why bother with the tm chassis why not go for the BORING rm125m/s roller with a plush 8 inch travel that dont shake your fillings out

TT5 Matt
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: STW996 on August 06, 2008, 06:06:27 am
As I have just said in the Honda thread about a CR250 if they keep going for these sort of prices maybe Mr Suzuki will start making them again!!!

Bill, I had one off these little screamers when I rode juniors in the mid 70's and they also made a very good flat track bike, we lower mine (mainly because of my vertical challenged stature) which made it like a slider to ride. they ran the Australian flat track championships at Tivoli in 77? around the motocross track and with the thing geared up 2 teeth on the front was clocked at 75 MPH. I finish 5th from memory and first motocross bike home. The thing I liked most about the bike was the exhaust note one of a kind ;D


Bill see you at Conondale look for the Wiltec tent

Shane
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 06, 2008, 02:08:34 pm
Taa Daa!!  ;D

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/Doctor_Suzuki/docrm125pre78-1.jpg)

well almost taa daa :P prolly half a day and a few little things left to do like remote res clamps, rear tyre, fork oil, chain, gearbox oil and she's hopefully rideable for Conondale but I know it's going to be very undergeared. Had enough today, crook as from the bloody flu the past few days but such is life..she'll be right mate, a dose of R30 will clear the head! 8) About 3 years collecting bits but well worth the wait ;) a piece from here and a piece from there but for mine it looks 'almost' like the real thing now and as usual under a grand all up..quite obviously I could never afford to buy a real one anymore  :P :D
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: STW996 on August 06, 2008, 04:53:49 pm
Nice job Doc, will be a shame to get her dirty, but will be fun fun fun :D :D Ahh the old R30 there is a smell I remember ;D
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 06, 2008, 05:10:27 pm
thanks Shane, never a shame to get them dirty ;D but it would be a shame not to ride it ;)
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: crs-and-rms on August 06, 2008, 05:42:51 pm
very nice doc you set great standards for us all to follow
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Wombat on August 06, 2008, 05:58:17 pm
Doc, I love your work! I had a brand spanker one of those back in the day (from Springwood Suzuki for the Brissos) and it didn't look any better than yours.
You did that for under $1000?? ??? :o 8)
Do you vote Labour? Would you consider a position as Treasurer? We need someone at the top with your smarts, diligence and attention to detail!
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 06, 2008, 06:54:33 pm
Thanks Wombat/CRS but pics can be a little deceptive. It is quite tidy alright but far from show condition or a full blown resto. $2 a can paint for the frame,tank, guards,engine etc and mechanically it should ride nicely so yeah, pretty happy with it as it sits  :) the bike was $350, forks and clamps $100, $50 CDI, new swingarm/wheel bearings/new cables and other incidentals add another couple of hundred or so. The motor has a new bottom end, new top end and new bearings and seals throughout which comes to another 3 or so hundred (the shop work with the crank was done very cheaply thanks to Dodgee) then the tyres, chain, oils, plug etc suck up the balance of the $1000. Bottom line is though it was built for a grand which was the figure I had in mind from the beginning. I could have built it sooner if I'd thrown wads of money at it but that defeats the whole purpose and lotto still eludes me. I just hope it goes okay, I like to test ride first but times simply not going to allow it  :P  ::)
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: oldfart on August 06, 2008, 07:10:36 pm
You have 20 minutes to sort it out on Saturday morning in practice , or has that been shortened some what  ;D   
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: crs-and-rms on August 06, 2008, 07:13:39 pm
i bought a b when they were just out in 77 trail rode it for 2 years then raced it in 79 was a great bike ive allways loves the look of the b better than any other rm  wish i still had it been looking for one now for a few years
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 06, 2008, 07:47:50 pm
another good reason to build one crs ;) this one is actually a 125A frame,A swingarm and tank, C seat with T model cover cause it was cheap. MCS rear guard and the inner was a broken item just cut off under the seat. The front guard was used and has a bit of a whoop in it. Covers were originally red! came from Thailand so i just painted them to match everything else. Incidently the rear guard was red too and I had a red front guard so I could have built a Red RM if I simply painted the fuel tank. I did a photoshop image in red and looked and it just didn't do anything for me so yellow it was. Airbox is 125C with TM250 unifilter element. Forks and triples are PE250. Front wheel is 125B, rear is TS185, brake stay arm KH125 kawa, shocks are 400C, motor is a 125C, pipe 125A, muffler RG250, and that about rounds it off..a real bitsa and 100% pre'78 legal ;D
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: firko on August 06, 2008, 08:14:38 pm
I'll say it again Doc..You never cease to amaze me with what you can do with a bucket full of second hand parts, a shifter and a $2 can of yellow paint! Nice little "pea shooter" matey.

B.T.W. Doc....I reckon you'll just love my RH lookalike Honcho Blowfly class racer. I picked up a factory race kit top end the other day for $30 US!  I'm getting more jollies building it than the Cheney at the moment!
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: crs-and-rms on August 06, 2008, 08:22:23 pm
 still a nice looking bike doc im thinking about trying to find my old b  i sold it to a mates brother havent seen the mate since i move from sydney to the central coast  but  five years lol , but the family allways kept every thing the back yard was fuul of old cars ect they had a huge shed that was full to so ive been looking for my mate but havent found him yet worth a try i think
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Doc on August 06, 2008, 10:20:39 pm
eh Firko, it could be done with near any of the jap marques from the same era as you'd know but it just happens I collected all the bits for the yellow ones that John West had once rejected ;D need is the muther of all creation, cash helps but it isn't the be all and end all and the sense of accomplishment I don't think would be the same...I'd like to try it sometime though!! tonights lotto failed miserably so maybe next week ;) I look forward to seeing the Honcho in all it's glory. Off the record, to give you an idea of how much you have upset TMWilliam (and many many others no doubt) with the boring little peashooter RM125S/M remark, imagine if someone said that about your little factory Honcho!! :o perish the thought!! :D :D can you also post your Suzuki footpeg for visual verificaton in regards to your application for inclusion into the Suzuki Tragics Establishment ;) where is the Institute and Big Loz by the way? I for one did not mean any offence but I HATE secrets!! ESPECIALLY when I don't know what they are!! ::) cruel...:D Loz..where you be??

crs, they keep everything eh..hmmm..sounds a bit like me but I try to keep it all undercover rather than in the yard. I respect my junk  :D good luck in your quest  8)
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: JC on August 07, 2008, 11:25:14 am
Mark,  I'm getting sucked into the Suzuki thing too, maimly cos I found a couple of cheapies (TS's) locally. I love those little RM M/Ss too. Looked like the unobtainium RHs to me. Have to agree w TMBill. They were a pretty significant model. Just love the looks & they were everywhere in the day. Always regret I never got to ride one. Were a couple of lovely ones at CD5.

Love the 125 B model too. Rode a mates plenty back in 77, but never raced it. Absolutely loved it. Made YZ125D (which I did race) look/feel pedestrian. Now I've upset the Yam guys! Sorry fellas. Love plenty of them too!
Title: Re: One for Dodgee
Post by: Yamaboy on August 07, 2008, 01:53:38 pm
I had a peek at Firkos TS90 the other day and it does indeed look trick. It's also pretty impressed by what he can do with a basic piece of shit. He's got the ability to find cheap stuff and make it all look deluxe. The $100 TM 250 Suzuki appears to be getting a makeover as well. The big fella's even got a Doc sized guy to ride the TS90. He's a Pommy vintage racer who has moved here to work in the aircraft industry. He raced a Cheney B44 or something or other in the UK. Firko found him in the pub of all places. ;D