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Title: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: TTezza on November 26, 2015, 10:28:33 pm
Guys,
       Going down this path with an existing club. Had a name change and a new committee elected. Has any club members ever had to go through the process of incorporation of a club? Been told that without incorporation committee members can be personally sued for any incident or accident that occurs at a club event, whether competition or show days etc? Also had an alternative suggestion of affiliation with MA?? Any help or info on pro's and con's and how to start the process would be very appreciated. Thanks Terry.
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: GD66 on November 26, 2015, 11:20:07 pm
Have a look at the website of the Feral Sports Car Club in Victoria, those blokes have got pretty much all the answers to covering club requirements, and all delivered in a very casual manner.
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: TTezza on November 26, 2015, 11:29:22 pm
Thanks GD
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: Gippslander on November 26, 2015, 11:58:29 pm
each state has different rules for club incorporation, best you start by using Google and type "club incorporation NSW" or whatever State you are in.

In Vic you will see this site:

https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/clubs-and-not-for-profits/incorporated-associations

All the info is there.
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: TTezza on November 27, 2015, 12:18:36 am
NSW, thanks G
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: HeavenVMX on November 27, 2015, 12:56:46 am
Mate for NSW you need to go to the NSW department of fair trading and look in the associations and clubs area it has all the information you need. They have several fact sheets and helpful booklets that you can download. The basic steps are
1) You need to hold a public meeting of interested people. I think the minimum required is 10 (don't hold me to that)
2) At that meeting you need to do several thing
             a) Come up with a name that is going to be used as the incorporated name (there are certain restrictions here of good taste).
                 You can also check online that the name you want is available, obviously the name must be unique.
             b) Either use the standard constitution suggested or come up with one that satisfies the 2009 ACT. Most people take the
                 standard constitution and modify it to fit the clubs requirements. The Department does not check the constitution to ensure
                 it is a good document they just register it so be careful here.
             c) Elect a committee as required by the constitution.
             d) appoint a public officer (usually the secretary).
3) lodge the forms required to incorporate the new body along with a small fee ($44 but again don't hold me to that).

Now if the club is already incorporated and just wants to change their name or some other part of the constitution that is a much simpler matter unless you have other reasons or have just chosen to wind up one club and start afresh.

Basically get onto the NSW department of fair trading
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Cooperatives_and_associations.page?

There are two types of Club or Association

Now once you are incorporated this offers some protection to the members and limits the individual members liability. Once the club or association is registered and incorporated you can then apply for affiliation with MNSW. MNSW through MA offer a very cheap and effective way to cover the office bearers of the club and the members to protect them from litigation if it all goes pear shaded. MNSW will not affiliate your club until it is incorporated. This protects them.

My only advice is
1) never ever be a member of a club or association that is not incorporated with your states department.
2) Make sure the club follows the requirements of incorporation so that all members are protected. This includes annual returns.

Most people don't realise that if you are a member of a club in NSW and it is not incorporated under the NSW Department of Fair Trading then your personal assets along with all the other members assets can be at risk for the clubs actions eg if the club has a BBQ for members and their families and someone gets food poisoning and tragically is permanently ill so they litigate against the club. If the club is incorporated then almost exclusively all members own assets are protected and only the clubs assets are at risk. This is not the case if the club is not incorporated. It is not just Committee members who have their assets at risk it is all members of the association / club.
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: KTM47 on November 27, 2015, 01:46:21 pm
I can't speak for others States but as you are affiliated with an SCB of MA just ask them for help and advice.  I'm sure they will also have an acceptable draft constitution.

Your SCB should be willing to hep you and they will know all the pitfalls.
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: TTezza on November 27, 2015, 05:46:11 pm
Hey Heaven, that's fantastic, just what I was after. It is an existing club that's been around @ 20 years, just recently had a name change and a couple of new committee members voted in. That's  when I heard about other clubs being incorporated?? Been on the committee for 3 years, bit scary. Much appreciated

Hey KTM, do I sound silly if I ask what an SCB is?

Appreciate the responses, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: supersenior 50 on November 27, 2015, 06:33:18 pm
Not silly at all, State Controlling Body,e.g. Motorcycling NSW
Title: Re: Club incorporation and/or affiliation info needed
Post by: TTezza on November 27, 2015, 07:16:09 pm
This forum is the best  ;D