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Title: Aurrum plating
Post by: pecrazy on July 22, 2015, 05:58:47 pm
Does anybody know if Aurrum plating is still in business? trying to contact them for awhile.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Lozza on July 22, 2015, 06:21:25 pm
It would be a shock if they were
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: pecrazy on July 22, 2015, 06:40:32 pm
Phone rings out and no replies to any emails.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: SUZUKI311 on July 22, 2015, 09:00:38 pm
Don't know if still in business,I tried them a long time ago, 100% fail rate with every cylinder they did for me.never went back,tried electrosil  in Melbourne,100% success rate,been using them for ages now.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: pecrazy on July 23, 2015, 06:06:47 am
No surprise to anyone but I had a failure with one of their cylinders, lasted 5 hours putting around behind the kids. Was going to try for a warranty claim.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: pecrazy on February 05, 2016, 11:07:35 am
Found out they are in business, think they were just ignoring my emails. Called them up but it has been too long they didn't want to know about it. Explained that their poor workmanship had caused $1000 worth of damage and they should be liable no matter how long ago as I had emailed from day one. Didn't do any good, got sick of arguing with some asian chick who I could hardly understand so I just hung up and vowed to tell everyone about their work.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Nathan S on February 05, 2016, 11:27:19 am
Lodge a complaint with their state Department of Fair Trading (or whatever the latest new-broom politician has renamed it for this week).
It might not fix your problem, but if enough people do it, then it will be noticed.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: pecrazy on February 05, 2016, 11:30:10 am
I admit it has been awhile but it took me over 12 months to get 5 hrs ridding time on that bike, then I was told they were out of business so I didn't bother any more.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Davey Crocket on February 05, 2016, 09:05:38 pm
Same as Suzuki311.....they did one cylinder 3 times, had to get it sleeved in the end.....absolutely useless ....have used Electrosil a few times.....100% success rate.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: EdgyAl on February 05, 2016, 10:26:42 pm
I would normally rather keep the money in oz, but Powerseal USA give perfect customer service, they are fast, and do 100% top notch work.
I have sent 2 cylinders to them, couldn't recommend any higher, a heap of mates have used them and all had the same experience.

http://www.powersealusa.com/

cheers Al.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: tony27 on February 06, 2016, 07:12:33 am
NZ cylinders in Ashburton has a very good reputation as well, postage & exchange rate would be better than sending to the states
www.nzcylinders.com
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: FourstrokeForever on February 06, 2016, 07:51:27 am
Why would any Aussie send a cylinder overseas to be plated when there is a perfectly good business in Australia?
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: tymes on February 06, 2016, 08:38:11 am
Why would any Aussie send a cylinder overseas to be plated when there is a perfectly good business in Australia?

Exactly!

After speaking to a legendary Australian dirt bike dealer they told me that exact same thing, every cylinder they do whether high performance race spec or trail riders they send them to a perfectly good Australian business that has never let them down.

Maybe they are not the cheapest option available but when you start crunching the numbers on cost if it fails, its a no brainer. Shopping around you can save money and find a cheaper job, but would you save money and shop around for a cheaper Chinese piston?



Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: madmxrestorer on February 06, 2016, 08:38:34 am
Hi, can you guys give me a rough idea when you had these jobs done ? I have had 4 cylinders done maybe 3 years ago (recommended by some one I know to them) and I will not start these bikes if there is a hint of a problem . surly they  must of done a good job at some stage I only spoke to a woman with a German??? accent when I had my work done ,. thanks for the heads up on this Cheers Robin 
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: fred99999au on February 06, 2016, 08:41:16 am
In my case I am looking to get an IT200 iron bore plated to bring it back to spec.

I had a sleeve on order, but apparently they are made of unobtainable now and the mob refunded me.

Ive spoken with NZ cylinders and they claim they can do nikasil onto cast and it sticks. Nobody else in Aus can do this.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Nathan S on February 06, 2016, 08:58:58 am
Electrosil have offered to plate iron in the past?!
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: fred99999au on February 06, 2016, 09:29:22 am
Hi Nathan. They got frightened when I asked them about it and told me to re-sleeve.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Lozza on February 06, 2016, 09:31:00 am
In my case I am looking to get an IT200 iron bore plated to bring it back to spec.

I had a sleeve on order, but apparently they are made of unobtainable now and the mob refunded me.

Ive spoken with NZ cylinders and they claim they can do nikasil onto cast and it sticks. Nobody else in Aus can do this.

Send it to Grant he should be able to plate it back to readily available piston size (bore size now minus 1mm) tell him I sent you and he will charge extra.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: fred99999au on February 06, 2016, 09:45:01 am
Grant being from?
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: sleepy on February 06, 2016, 02:25:47 pm
In my case I am looking to get an IT200 iron bore plated to bring it back to spec.

I had a sleeve on order, but apparently they are made of unobtainable now and the mob refunded me.

Ive spoken with NZ cylinders and they claim they can do nikasil onto cast and it sticks. Nobody else in Aus can do this.

Send it to Grant he should be able to plate it back to readily available piston size (bore size now minus 1mm) tell him I sent you and he will charge extra.

What sort of cost is involved to bring a cast iron bore back 1mm.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: fred99999au on February 06, 2016, 02:30:35 pm
I was quoted mid $400 a couple of months ago.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: EdgyAl on February 06, 2016, 07:43:42 pm
Why would any Aussie send a cylinder overseas to be plated when there is a perfectly good business in Australia?
When the cost was less than half, and much better customer service, quality of work, advise and faster turn around.
But, that was when our dollar was a lot better,
I will still use them again if need be, they were excellent to deal with.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Lozza on February 06, 2016, 07:48:40 pm
Grant being from?

nz cylinders
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: fred99999au on February 06, 2016, 10:10:26 pm
Thanks mate, will do.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: sleepy on February 06, 2016, 11:30:36 pm
I was quoted mid $400 a couple of months ago.
I'd be going with a custom sleeve for that sort of money and if done properly get 100% usable clyinder.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: fred99999au on February 07, 2016, 08:16:39 am
Resleeve costs the same if you can find a sleeve, and then the next top end rebuild consists of finding a piston and rings next size over, getting it bored and re-assembling.

With the nikasil, a top end rebuild could just be rings, or piston and rings the same size.
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: Lozza on February 07, 2016, 09:29:06 am
I'd be going with a custom sleeve for that sort of money and if done properly get 100% usable clyinder.

Why is a cylinder that has the original liner plated not "100% usable"  ::)
Resleeve costs the same if you can find a sleeve, and then the next top end rebuild consists of finding a piston and rings next size over, getting it bored and re-assembling.

With the nikasil, a top end rebuild could just be rings, or piston and rings the same size.

Original/first o/s piston and rings are dirt cheap
Title: Re: Aurrum plating
Post by: sleepy on February 07, 2016, 08:32:20 pm
I'd be going with a custom sleeve for that sort of money and if done properly get 100% usable clyinder.

Why is a cylinder that has the original liner plated not "100% usable"  ::)
Resleeve costs the same if you can find a sleeve, and then the next top end rebuild consists of finding a piston and rings next size over, getting it bored and re-assembling.

With the nikasil, a top end rebuild could just be rings, or piston and rings the same size.

Original/first o/s piston and rings are dirt cheap
I didn't say that re-plating was 100% but it does seem like some of the plating companies don't want to do it. Is it because it is not as reliable as plating alloy? I'm still out on the benefits of plating a cast iron cylinder. A thin layer of Nikasil does tranfer heat better than a thick cast sleeve but putting a layer of nikasil on cast to then get the heat into the alloy I would think was worse than just cast. I do know the the V8 super cars teams here in OZ thought they would give nikasil a go in there engines and after paying to have several block plated they ended up in the bin as they were unable to get close to the HP they had from the cast iron bores. With all the claims about less friction and better heat transfer they couldn't get it to work. 

If they can only go back 1mm on a 2mm over cylinder you are still up for the more expensive pistons.