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Marque Remarks => Yamaha => Topic started by: G54B on June 05, 2015, 02:40:03 am
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I bought this thing in Oct. 2013 for the princely sum of $700; it wasn't much to look at, but it had good bones. It turned over freely, selected all six gears nicely and the shock had damping, all the parts that weren't on it were with it with the exception of the lights and silencer insert, so I bought it. It needed crank seals, a base gasket and new fork seals, among other things.
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New fork seals, new base gasket, a bit of air in the tyres and some assembly later, and we had a runner.
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Did the crank seals, patched up a split that showed up in the tank etc.
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Took it to Cookardinia, had a blast despite the five fouled plugs, one dead plug cap, blown fork seals and epic 1hr wrestle-a-thon involved in changing the rear tyre.
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Did the top end and threw a new front tyre on it
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Threw an original headlight shroud, complete with bog tin lid glued in the hole, and a set of handguards I pinched off my brother's XR600 on it, swapped the upper triple and forks for YZ125K ones and took it to the YamahaIT forum ride in November
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Bought and fitted another tank
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Ditched the bog tin lid for an actual headlight, an old 12v/11w foglight that came in a box of truck parts my uncle saved from the skip at his work. Also fitted an ugly gooseneck taillight off my brother's XR600; it didn't stay long though, it's got an MCS XR4 one on it now.
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My brother fitted Pivot Pegz to his WR426F, so I got the OEM ones. 20 minutes on the bench grinder and I have decent pegs
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I was given an IT-J rear brakeplate with the brake cam sleeve pulled out of it a while back, I was over the YZ465 brake's shenanigans so I decided to fix it up. Quick tap with the persuading stick to knock the sleeve loose of the crud on the brake cam, quick buff on the bench grinder, a bit of bearing retainer on the outside of the sleeve and press it back into the plate with the bench vise, and voila. One properly working rear brake. It actually stays adjusted, which is something the YZ465 brake never managed to do.
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A few random pictures
Next to the DT175H I'm slowly doing up
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I discovered quite by accident that if you hit this at the top of 4th it'll send you into orbit ;D ;D
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This hurt. I was stuck under the bike for about 20 minutes until dad showed up to rescue me; the position I was in was super awkward, I couldn't get enough leverage to even move the bike, let alone lift it off me.
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I think so far it's cost me roughly $1k on top of the purchase price. Good cheap fun in my books ;D
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A few photos of the DT. It's not much at the moment, but I'm aiming to have it mostly together by Christmas. I have most of what I need, I'm missing a carb, airbox, seat, rear guard and top end off the top of my head. I'm probably not going to use this frame either, it's in good shape aside from the missing rear loop, and I do have another frame I could flog the loop off, but I can't weld to save myself. I still haven't decided whether it's getting a 125 or 175 motor; I love 125s, even DTs, but I can't help but think that a 175 would have a slightly easier time of hauling my weighty arse about ;D ;D
Plan is for a playbike, basically. Autolube, aftermarket muffler, trials tyres, short gearing etc. Something to get out and putt around on, climb stuff, pull wheelies etc.
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Great sequence of photos! I love the 14th one down (top of 4th gear/orbit). Check that fat ol' ant-hole.
She's a much-used workhorse. Good on you :)
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Great illustrated story about a well used old dirt bike. You're certainly getting plenty of bang for your buck!
Tex
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Really enjoyed the photos and commentary - thanks for posting. Vinduro at its best! Who needs a $14K new bike to have fun!
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I agree with all the above comments , this is what its all about ,to take it out and play with it and have some fun , good on you mate , thanks for sharing your photos.
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Cool bike, new dirt bikes look shit compared to these.
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Cheers fellas. She's definitely been the best impulse buy I've ever made, lol
My cousin and a couple of his mates came up for the June long weekend, we ended up spending all Sunday out on the bikes. We had a '15 KTM 250EXC-F, an '02 WR250F, a rough as guts '86 KLX250 and this thing between us.
The mighty IT stood up well, split pipe and intermittent lateral traction from the shitty Vee Rubber front tyre notwithstanding. I didn't fall more than 30sec behind the KTM at any point, and I was far, far quicker than the old KLX.... :D :D
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My workboots ended up completely waterlogged after we found the mud, which is why I'm wearing Volleys in the second pic. Would have been wearing my MX boots, but they seem to have grown legs and run off, so the $70 laceups it was.
Anyway, ride days that good don't happen enough, so I'm calling it a win. Pretty sure I've bumped up this year's Cookardinia entry numbers by one, too ;D
RE: split pipe, I went to pop the front up over a log and didn't quite get it right. Got the front wheel over, but I gave it too much throttle, lost traction and smashed the bottom section of the pipe (the bit that runs across the front of the bike) on the log. The pipe split around the inside of the first bend in the header pipe.
So, I need a pipe before the next Canowindra vinduro in August. If anyone has a stock IT250H/J pipe laying around that they don't need... Doesn't need to be perfect, it can be a bit battered/rusty/whatever, provided it has no holes/splits in it and isn't bent. I'll consider a stock YZ250G/H pipe, too. Same deal.
Cheers fellas :)
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Have a look up musket mufflers here in NZ, they're likely to make a replacement front section
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how long would that 20 minutes have been with an arterial bleed or a broken thigh...don't you just luv riding bikes!
understand those early IT's have an inbuilt ejector seat if you hit a "big one"!! while Martin Baker called theirs an "ejector seat" Yamaha called theirs "Monoshock!" ;D
bet that new kato don't look as new after that mallee mud bath.
great thread.
any number of bloke about who can repair that pipe if you cant get a nother one....
enjoy!
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That looks absolutely great fun and getting back to the spirit of what dirt biking is all about.
Musket mufflers makes a whole bottom section for the it250h/j. Your pipe would be like new after welding it on.... http://musket.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/YAMAHA.pdf
Cheers,
Alex
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Sweet!!!!!!
Looks like a bargain full o fun, as stated, you don't have to spend a fortune, keep her reliable and ride the wheels of it, the H/J is great with no rear linkage to wear out!!!
Flamin awesome.
Cheers
Kim 8) 8)
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I have a few things to get done before the next VTR ride at Canowindra
-Braze the split in the pipe header back together
-Check/repack the wheel bearings
-Change the damn kicker seal
-Pull the shock out and take it to get serviced (new oil/regas)
-Change the airbox over to the un-butchered one I have
-Change the gearbox and fork oil
-Clean the results of a dozen or so rides out of the air filter
Should get it cranked out this weekend, so I'll see y'all at Canowindra :)
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Gez you have alot more work to do on the it then mine , got to wash the harrow mud off replace clutch ,new brakes , rear wheel bearing and the general check over ;)
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Started by pulling the exhaust off. I set my mate to scrubbing as much rust and crap off the split seam as possible, while he was doing that I pulled the tank, seat and sidecovers off and knocked the lower shock pin out. The pin came out heaps easier than expexted, I gave it a generous hit with the Inox through the little holes in the swingarm and lower shock eye before I did anything else, left it soak while I pulled the tank etc off, then got a little 2-jaw puller, hooked the arms over the lower shock eye, tightened it until it just started to pull the shock to the side and hit the end of the threaded shaft in the puller with a hammer until it moved. Tighten it up again, rinse and repeat until the pin end is flush with the swingarm, go dig up a drift with the same diameter as the pin and drive it all the way through.
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You can see the little holes I was talking about in this pic.
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Undid the shock and pulled it out; it has damping, and doesn't look too bad aside from some scuffing on the shock body under the helper spring and some dirt on the lower end of the damper shaft, so it was put aside and went back in the bike when I put it all back together. I'll get it serviced after Canowindra.
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Replaced the airbox; for reference, where the knackered sticker is on this one was cut out on the old one. Excuse the bad picture, my phone doesn't have a flash.
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If you squint you can see the incredibly ugly repair made to the split pipe. I can't weld with an oxy, so I got Dad to do it; it ain't pretty, but he did the best he could given how thin the pipe metal is in the header section. it should hold, if not, I have an exhaust bandage around here somewhere ;D
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Gearbox oil and tyres is all that's left, ran out of daylight and I have to work tomorrow, so I decided to leave wrestling with tyres to the bike shop guys on Friday. Other than that it's good to go.
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What a Lot of work you do so far ..To Get it Ready ...
Look like you are really Hanging out for a Ride on the IT ..Going Well Mate ..
See You Josh on the Week end ...
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Dunno about a lot of work, it only took a couple hours ;D
I am keen, it's been a couple months since I've had it out, and Canowindra's my "local" ride, so to speak, so yeah.
See y'all there.
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A repair header section is available from musket mufflers here in NZ if you want a lasting fix with fresh metal, they've been around for a long time & have a good reputation. Not sure who would stock them in Oz but if you contact them I'm sure they'll either point you in the right direction or may sell to you direct
http://musket.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/YAMAHA.pdf
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That's the plan. The awful weld job is just to get me through the weekend.
Cheers man :)
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I entered myself in the Bathurst round of the Heaven VMX series (Pre-82 250 and All Powers) so I have a little to do once I get home. Mostly just get it sorted and ready to go, it's been sitting for 18 months behind a pallet of urea and a broken Chamberlain in the machinery shed. I bought my brother's XR600 off him just before he moved over to WA, got it registered easily enough so I've been riding that here, there and everywhere.
I have a few things to do, shouldn't take much though. Heavier fork springs, new fork dust wipers, new kicker and countershaft seals, new clutch/brake levers and an upper chain roller are on the way, I just have to fit all that, clean the dirt out of the shittily repaired but not leaking pipe I have, throw it on, make a front number plate out of an old chemical drum or something, sort out green numberplate decals and race numbers and hope I don't hurt myself come race day... I go to work the day after, lol
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You probably noticed that you have a trick shock with the dual spring mod. Here's a write up on the mod from BITD
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Well... practice didn't kill me ;D
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I'm having issues with cramping hands, and I'm not much more than a rolling roadblock, but it's fun. Which is all that matters, right? ;D
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cramping hands can be fixed by consciously relaxing your hands in spots where "grim death " grip isn't required. Its hard to do ...like breathing while jumping...while people tell you they jumped so high they "needed oxygen" its only because they were holding their breath in the run up and the jump ;)
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Gday
I use spongy grips like the kids have on there scooters,pro grip makes good ones,I love em,I also have large hands and have trouble holding onto a normal grip,the foam seems bigger in your hand.
Cheers scotty
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I worked out that it was standing through the whoops that was killing my hands, I ended up staying seated and just rolling through them in first, found that by doing that I could keep up my admittedly snail-like pace for the whole race rather than having to slow right down and roll everything because I couldn't hold onto the bars.
I'm going to have to look into either lowering the pegs, getting a gripper seat made up or both so I can actually get a grip on the bike with my legs, should help with my hands as I won't have to hang on as tight while I'm standing.
I had four races today, Pre82 all in and 250, the U/45 post classic age race and the single bike entrant race. I was slow, ran dead last all day, got lapped frequently and had an absolute ball doing it. I'll be back ;D
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think about where you where slowest...rutted corners is my bet and set up a short practice loop and go round and round for 20 mins or more as often as you can get to it and concentrate on each part of the track until you are happy with how your tackling it each lap...will lift your speed very quickly.,,,practise your starts!
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Try to get hold of a set of YZ peg mounts of the same era to try as they are lower, from memory when I still owned my YZ465 there was a shorter guy than me running IT mounts on his YZ to shorten up the distance between seat & peg, he said they were a direct swap
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and a budding TV star too
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Not often you see such a bad head in the sports part of the news... lol