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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rookie#1 on June 03, 2015, 09:39:37 pm
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So I don't get on here much these days, partly because I don't have a lot of bikes anymore and partly because I don't have the time or finance to use the little I've got all that much. I've found myself getting back into the sport of shooting/hunting a bit more these days, doesn't cost a lot to have a good arvo walking around blowing a few bunnies away or whistling up a fox or two and can be a lot of fun. I bet with all the alpha males we have here I'm not alone, anyone else do a bit of hunting, target shooting, trap?? I'm also looking for a Brno model 2 .22 if anyone has one!! Yeah I know thus isn't the place for this chat but I just figured I'd throw it out there, what's the worst that could happen? Someone starts an argument.... ;D ;D
Cheers, Brendan
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I've also been looking around for another rifle and these are the websites I've been looking at. Some have more listings than others.
https://www.usedguns.com.au/ (https://www.usedguns.com.au/)
http://www.ozgunsales.com (http://www.ozgunsales.com)/
http://usedgunsales.com.au/ (http://usedgunsales.com.au/)
http://thegunsmiths.com.au/guns-shop/ (http://thegunsmiths.com.au/guns-shop/)
http://www.austguns.com.au/search.aspx?c=0 (http://www.austguns.com.au/search.aspx?c=0)
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This'll be a great second post... haha
Shooting's my other favourite hobby, behind dirtbikes. I have a Brno No.5 .22, a Mossberg 802 .22, a Brno Fox II in .22 Hornet, a Tikka M55 in .17 Remington, a CMC Mountaineer in .222, a 1941 Husqvarna M38 sporter in 6.5x55, a 1917 Enfield Lock No.1 MkIII .303 sporter and an old Laurona 12ga U/O shotgun.
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With the looming depression probably a good thing to have , I think .
Me thinks you've watched Mad Max too many times ;D
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Your a Bit late Rookie recently sold most of my Guns.
I only kept a couple of shotguns and a nice litle pump action 22 browning
for the grandson's to use on the bunnies when they visit
Poppy
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12 guage shot gun duck shooting season .... been doing it for 43 years
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Good to see a few others chiming in, G45 I'd like to get my hands a few nice Brnos like you have. A friend of mine once had a cmc mountaineer in 222, shot nice n flat but geez it was heavy!!!
Your a Bit late Rookie recently sold most of my Guns.
I only kept a couple of shotguns and a nice litle pump action 22 browning
for the grandson's to use on the bunnies when they visit
Poppy
Story of my life poppy, day late and a dollar short!! I'll come up your way one day and you can show me your secret spots near home there to whistle a few foxes out of hiding. ;)
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They were my grandfather's, which is the only reason I have them. Sadly, Brnos, especially ones as nice as these two, are well out of my price range ;D
No.5
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Fox II
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CMC .222
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Tikka .17 Rem
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.303
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The little Brno Hornet would have to be my favourite; It's lightweight, accurate, packs enough punch to put down anything I'm likely to come across while I'm out and about on the family farm (it's a rare thing to come across anything bigger than a fox or feral cat out here) and is just so damn handy. Not to mention that it's cheap as chips to run; it absolutely loves the Highland/PPU ammunition, which was $16/box the last time I bought some. I mostly reload for it (and all my centrefires, with the exception of the 6.5x55 and .303) though, 10.5gr of AR2205 behind a 40gr Winchester .22 mag projectile seems to be the hot recipe.
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funny you should say that....
I still have the Winchester 1906 22cal my Dad gave me when I was 12. I had a BSA 22cal and 177 cal slug gun then and he thought it was time to progress to a "real" gun. the crazy thing is by todays standards I use to take it to school to show my friends, that was, a bus trip, and hour + in the train to Town Hall station in Sydney then into school - imagine that now.....
My son still shoots it at Mums place near Uralla when he's not riding the RM; good times.
Also have a few others but sold all the bigger rifles (308 and a 22 250) when we sold the farm a year or so ago - the 308 was like having the power of God but could take down a Deer no problem at all; if you could see it, it was toast.
211
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I still have my B S A air rifle 211 the grand kids use it for target practice in the back yard
one uses the BSA and other one uses a little Diana air rifle.
that little Diana you can see the pellets come out and drop 500 mm in 50 yards
but they love it they will go through a packet of slugs in a weekend..
they love it when we go Fox shooting with the mate and his Fox hounds..
Poppy
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I got a cmc mountaineer in 22-250. Man that thing is sweet.
Has a composant stock now because I cracked the original.
I also have a browining Abolt in .270 win with walnut stock. Might sell it if anyone is in need of a shoulder reconstruction .
I also have a cheap shit norinco 22 but I tell you it is dam accurate though!
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No, I'm sexually adequate.
;D
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We both hunt, EA and I, her favourite rifle is a Smith and Wesson branded Howa in .223, Mine ? It's gotta be my M38 Mauser in 6.5 x 55. here's the latest freezer filler taken with it from about 100 yards, early this Tuesday morning.
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab106/JAP454/Pig%203_zpsig29zwsl.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/JAP454/media/Pig%203_zpsig29zwsl.jpg.html)
Foss
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I still have my B S A air rifle 211 the grand kids use it for target practice in the back yard
one uses the BSA and other one uses a little Diana air rifle.
that little Diana you can see the pellets come out and drop 500 mm in 50 yards
but they love it they will go through a packet of slugs in a weekend..
they love it when we go Fox shooting with the mate and his Fox hounds..
Poppy
I think my BSA was called a super meteor or something like that - wish I had it now :(
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I don't have it anymore, but used to have fun with a Remington 700, heavy SS barrel, in 17 Rem.
Factory ammo was hard to come by, it was all hand loads.
I used to enjoy trying different loads for accuracy on targets, and exploding plastic bottles full of water at 100m.
I also shot service match for a long time with a .38 S&W.
This kind of fun is SO difficult now, the Nanna rule makers have got their way.
Only seriously keen people jump through the hoops now.
Of course there seems to be more lunatics with (illegal) hand guns running around than there has ever been.
But at least target shooting is dying - vomit.
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Interesting to note that firearms manufacture has recently started up again, in Australia, at the Lithgow Small Arms factory with the introduction of the LA 101 Crossover rim-fire range of rifles.
Foss
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Yes 211 mine is the Super meteor makes more noise than a 12 g
shotgun . but not too many sparrows and starlings hear it ah ah
the stig
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Hi guys anyone know where I can buy a 1850"s ish double trigger Tranters pistol/revolver? my great Auntie handed hers in in a gun amnesty in around the 1950-60's . luckily she kept the wooden case with all the business for making it work , just been waiting for someone somewhere to show interest in guns . I would really like to find a revolver to complete this set before my dad passes on .
cheers Robin Gregory
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Hey sky pig I've got the same as you Remington police sniper heavy barrell synthetic stock in 223 weighs a ton on long hunts 223 very flat shooting but lacks punch at long shots on pigs also shoot Ispc with gold cup 45 with all the extras great gun for close quarters in the lignum on pigs. Cheers leigh
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geezas,i'm feeling inadequate,got a sluggy (it has a scope 8)),used for flying rats,put about 5000 million slugs into the palm tree in our garden(theres a nest in there somewhere ::))kill rates about 2 per year,by the time i switch glasses,look through the scope,they have fugged off bigtime,have to be sneaky & shoot through the rust holes in the shed wall for best effect , :P
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Interesting to note that firearms manufacture has recently started up again, in Australia, at the Lithgow Small Arms factory with the introduction of the LA 101 Crossover rim-fire range of rifles.
Foss
Yes I've spent a lot of time checking this rifle out and it's getting great reviews, said to be very accurate and well built. I've handled it and the action feels fantastic, crisp and clean. If I can't find a good mod 2 brno .22 for a reasonable price I'll be sinking my pennies into one of these, for a good plinking, vermin rifle that's a sure shot and cheap to run.
Cheers, Brendan
Oh and Nathan, just like all dirt bike riders aren't scumbags despite the general public thinking so....not all gun owners are physically inadequate rednecks either :P
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Yeah, Rookie, I read the reviews of the Crossover with interest but I have no need of another rim-fire !! I do have 2 model 2 Brnos BUT my 1948 Stevens Buckhorn .22 will go shot for shot with either of them. I will admit to re-pinning the action/barrel joint which improved the old girl immensely.
Oh yeah, my wife EA, Elaine to those who don't know her, said she thought Nathans statement quite Freudian and that she has never had any reason to question either her's or my sexual adequacy.
Foss and EA
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dictionary.com describes adequate as
1. as good as necessary for the required purpose
this car is adequate for out needs
2. barely sufficient or suitable:
[being adequate is not good enough]
sums it up really
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Touche ! BUT adequacy " Sufficient for a particular purpose "
Foss
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err,i was referring to gun envy,nothing else ;), :P
ps i did fire a 1900's 303 last year,was impressed with how smooth it's kick was,thumped away like a longstroke ES2 norton
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Not referring to your comment, Mick, someone else's !
I had an old 1902 Long Tom 303, still had volley sights !! a long barreled thing, it sorta pushed instead of kicked, sold it to a Copper who did Light Horse re-enactment. Turned up a 1894 Magazine Lee Enfield 303 Cavalry Carbine, a mate found it on top of a wardrobe, family wanted it cut up, I found out it was the lad's Grandfather's weapon from the Boer War, researched the bloke, he served with the Third NSW Mounted Rifles, got the rifle into the system, it will go to a museum, eventually.
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I wasn't sure about discussing guns on the Forum, but it seems as though there are a few others interested in old guns.As for "modern"it is pretty hard to go past a Remington 700 in 243 with a synthetic stock,very accurate,good all round rifle,I have a Leupold 1-4 with the Pig Plex reticle,fantastic on pigs.Back in the 70's when you could pay off a rifle,or buy a bike in a few cold nights,chasing foxes for the fur trade,a Sako or Tikka with Kahles or Pecar scope,in222 was hard to beat.17 calibres were popular,but were affected by windy nights,and I found using solids in the 222 was better .
Dad used to use a Martini Henry single shot .577/450 .45 calibre (1880s African wars era)when he was a jackaroo,before he joined the RAAF in 1943.He was pretty skinny,and because of the recoil,one day he put the stock against the dray,when he was shooting at a boar,and it slid off the dray and nearly took his shoulder off.We found some of the foil wrapped cartridges at an old gun shop,in the 70's,but stupidly didn't buy them!today they are $5 a round.Dad used to make more from the bounty on pig snouts,then his wage as a jackaroo.The 480gr lead bullet was punched out at1350fps by 85gr of Black Powder,no wonder Dad had a fear of the recoil.
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N22, I guess interest in older firearms is just as engrossing as an interest in older bikes. I have seen a couple of the 577/450 Martinis with paper patched rounds, but have never fired one. My wife, Elaine, has one of their little cousins, a BSA Martini Cadet in .222 Rimmed Improved by Don Black. I have a collection of replica muzzle-loaders, which I quite like burning powder with, and do have some other interesting arms, purely used for private target work, older rim-fires mostly. I do reload all our center-fires and find that very absorbing, as one has to be very precise and I am not normally a precise person. I have just been given a Remington 700, stainless barreled, in .17 Rem, which I find a great little thing but I don't really have much use for, at the moment.
One thing, both Elaine and I still have the very first .22s we had in our teenage years.
Foss
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Oh and Nathan, just like all dirt bike riders aren't scumbags despite the general public thinking so....not all gun owners are physically inadequate rednecks either :P
I did a fair bit of shooting as a kid. Enjoyed them all, even if most were testimony to my dad's poor choices in gun buying (from the .22 air rifle that sucked as all .22 air rifles do, to the single barrel 12-gauge that was bought on the premise that it would be light enough for my step-mum to use...).
Also had a (now deceased) family member who had a real-life version of the Terminator2 scene in the desert thanks to Barry Unsworth's proposed ban in the 1980s. Apparently he had a lot of conversations that included the sentence: "Yes, I will be happy to take that off your hands"... So I also got to see a few "unusual" things in action...
Guns are a useful and important tool in certain settings, but I'm not "into" them anymore than I'm into wood planes or combine harvesters or any other tool that I have no use for.
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dictionary.com describes adequate as
1. as good as necessary for the required purpose
this car is adequate for out needs
2. barely sufficient or suitable:
[being adequate is not good enough]
sums it up really
Just quoting this for future reference. Thank you.[/color]
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I was taught respect for and care of my weapon by my late Father who served in Normandy in WW 2, he also taught me hunting and stalking skills which I am endeavoring to pass on to our Grandsons, one of whom has already done his Firearms Training course and has his Minors Firearms permit. The other grandson, well, I think I'll wait a bit and see how he turns out !!
Oh, and by the way, because we have lot of room to fish, hunt and ride motor-bikes and only one neighbor out here, I have re-furbished a bike each for our grandsons, they love coming to see Fossil and EA
Foss
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dictionary.com describes adequate as
1. as good as necessary for the required purpose
this car is adequate for out needs
2. barely sufficient or suitable:
[being adequate is not good enough]
sums it up really
Just quoting this for future reference. Thank you.[/color]
your welcome
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I wasn't sure about discussing guns on the Forum, but it seems as though there are a few others interested in old guns.As for "modern"it is pretty hard to go past a Remington 700 in 243 with a synthetic stock,very accurate,good all round rifle,I have a Leupold 1-4 with the Pig Plex reticle,fantastic on pigs.Back in the 70's when you could pay off a rifle,or buy a bike in a few cold nights,chasing foxes for the fur trade,a Sako or Tikka with Kahles or Pecar scope,in222 was hard to beat.17 calibres were popular,but were affected by windy nights,and I found using solids in the 222 was better .
Dad used to use a Martini Henry single shot .577/450 .45 calibre (1880s African wars era)when he was a jackaroo,before he joined the RAAF in 1943.He was pretty skinny,and because of the recoil,one day he put the stock against the dray,when he was shooting at a boar,and it slid off the dray and nearly took his shoulder off.We found some of the foil wrapped cartridges at an old gun shop,in the 70's,but stupidly didn't buy them!today they are $5 a round.Dad used to make more from the bounty on pig snouts,then his wage as a jackaroo.The 480gr lead bullet was punched out at1350fps by 85gr of Black Powder,no wonder Dad had a fear of the recoil.
It's a trip down memory lane - I had a .17 in the 70's when I was living between Cooma and Canberra and use to supplement the income with the fox furs. Used to really hate pegging them out on a bit of ply. Brings back memories of nearly shooting Bo the dog (red healer) - had her in the scope at about 100mt until I realised foxes weren't that fat; loved that dog.
takes me back to a simpler time - Mum was a horse woman, bred Clydesdales and rode dressage on retired race horses. When I first learned to drive I would take her to the shows, Temora, Wagga, Sydney - all over in an old J3 Bedford truck pulling a car trailer with her bakers cart on board. Bought my first Velocette from the guy who sold her the bakers cart up Gosford way.
Happy times
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Simpler time, for sure, 211, nice yarn about your Mum. I guess, no, I know, it is the simplicity of life, here at The River that got us away from the now Canberra suburb of Narooma, with all the suburban angst that goes with that, too bloody " civilised "!! Ahh well, back to cleaning up the DS80's plastic tank !!
Foss
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Well this got more traction than I'd expected, good to see some like minded souls around the place ;) great reading some of the stuff here
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Yes, quite an interesting subject and as you say, Rookie, the number of responses surprised me ! I'm gunna see how things feel, early tomorrow morning, and probably take the 6.5 for another walk in the hills.
Foss
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When I was a bit younger(and faster),going bike riding,hunting,and fishing all went together(it still does)We went out to the Maquarie Marshes,in 1981,when they had the last"100year drought",35 years later they are having another one.The other blokes went a day earlier,and I went the next afternoon,and had used my 2 spare tyres by the time I got to Walgett,just before the servo shut,so I got a couple of new tyres.I then headed south in the dark,and managed to only hit 2 roos,out of the hundreds,that lined the road trying to get a feed.
When I got onto the property,there were mobs of pigs everywhere,so I knew I was close to the Marshes,I shot a few,but soon realised that I would run out of 30/30 ammo if I kept shooting.Somehow I found the Boys around midnight,they had bogged the Hilux trying to cross a creek,and spent all day hand winching it out.
At daylight,I unloaded the RM125,and went for a look around,away from the Marsh,it was a barren wasteland,and thousands of acres of the reedy marshland had been burnt,to get some new growth when the marsh flooded.It looked like the surface of the moon,with creeks meandering across the blackened,incredibly rough expanse.The only way to cross the burn't marshland,was flat out,bouncing across the tussocks,similar to riding sand,look ahead,and don't worry about where your front wheel is pointing.
The many creeks were lined with a few metres of green reeds,and were loaded with pigs,as all of the cover was burnt,and once they left the reeds they were hard to see in the black tussocks,any way we got heaps,and had a ball racing across the endless marsh,chasing the pigs.A trick for shooting off a bike is to sling your gun, barrel down,across your chest,so that you just lift it up to shoot,and wear an open face helmet,because you can't aim with a full face.
The creeks were full of European carp,and the best fishing method was to herd the carp towards a couple of blokes armed with 12g pump actions,we tried eating a carp,nothing like yellow belly!
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cant beat carp shooting with a .45 magnum from the back of a ute. they put on a turn of speed if you miss...
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cant beat carp shooting with a .45 magnum from the back of a ute. they put on a turn of speed if you miss
you can
was out the cont/shelf tuna fishing with a mate our burly trail got bombarded by mutton birds he pulled out his 44 man fully licenced for his work and blasted a few away after about 10 dead floating around they didnt come back. then the dead floating birds started to disappear.we had burlied up a large tiger shark it was as big as the 5.2 mter boat we were in he nudged us a few times then went on his way
also on a 28 berty i was part of a game fishing crew we used to shoot them with a mosburg pump shotgun mutton birds will take all your burly (pilchard cubes) if you dont get rid of them.
all of this happend at least 14 miles out to sea in about 600 to 800 feet depth and further out
dont do this any more how things change as you get much older still fish though
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but that stuff is "required" or your burly disappears...I didn't need to shoot the carp but I couldn't leave em sunning themselves in 12 inches of clear water could i? ;D ;D
that would be a good shot if the boat was going up and down .....its hard to hit anything with a magnum..specially someone elses!
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the birds came within 2 feet of the back of the boat only go out that far when itis a good day more fun with the shotgun some times the shark balloon flot would get hit as well have to re rig again.then suntimes you get a shool of tuna aroung your boat and the guns go away way too busy catching 30kg tuna on 10 and 6 kg line
jim
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and yes i agee you cant let them sit in 12 in of clear water
i had a crazy mate who used to jelly the fish around cowra
he was not good to go out drinking in sydney with we allways got int some sort of trouble
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ha ha ..much unhappiness when the shark float goes down! ;D
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No guns here (yet), but plan to get both riffle and hand gun at some point.
For now I have a compound bow and do field archery with a club twice a month. Haven't hunted yet, but plan to at some point later in the year
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Dad had a 44-440 magnum rifle with the lever action and its now mine after he saw the vic gun licence renewal form. it sends a bowling ball out the end of the barrel.....after a lot of noise. not sure what to do with it. probably flog it as no one hunts pigs anymore and im too old to chase deer
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I still hunt pigs, Husky, but with a 6.5 X 55 Swedish, which I find very accurate. I also have a collection of replica muzzle loaders which send a 500 grain or so behemoth down range after a lot of smoke and noise !!. I won't use them on live game but I do demonstrate, to young ones, just what a damage a fire-arm can do, using a water filled drum as a target, they mostly are shocked at the resulting damage, as they are used to computer battle games that have NO physical result.
Foss
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I dunno if this'll work, but here's a link to a short vid of one of my smoke-poles burnin' powder !!, https://www.facebook.com/alan.garvey.35/videos/vob.100000440326721/778807652143905/?type=2&theater
Foss
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ol mate had one with a hexagonal barrel...he set it up on a table while he sat on an old couch. when the smoke cleared, the couch and ol mate was a over t and we had no idea where the bowling ball went. impressive weapon...
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Dad had a 44-440 magnum rifle with the lever action and its now mine after he saw the vic gun licence renewal form. it sends a bowling ball out the end of the barrel.....after a lot of noise. not sure what to do with it. probably flog it as no one hunts pigs anymore and im too old to chase deer
Yeah they're a hoot, will stop anything dead in its tracks within 50 yards, 50-100 with a little practice. What make of rifle is it? I am kinda on the lookout for a lever scrub gun to use on the very occasional deer/hog hunt so before you move it on keep me in mind ;)
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Rookie, check out the 444 Marlin, a Pro Fisherman friend had one on board !!
Foss