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Marketplace => Wanted => Topic started by: jhovel on July 18, 2008, 07:44:39 pm
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Hi all. I'm new to this forum - been around Honda and Suzuki dirt bikes since 1971 (as a mechanic and rider) and interested in these bikes that are now 'classics'...
I'm looking to build an SL 70 or XL70 for my grandson, after building one for my son in 1981... which started him off in dirt bikes at age 6....
I'm very aware that they are now very rare, but I'm quite good at repairing the 'irrepairable', so will take on even very badly damaged bits.
Cheers,
Joe
(joe dot hovel at bigpond dot com)
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You need to talk to "Tim754". His the man on those little Honda's. ;)
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Hi jhovel ,what parts are you after? But first a warning ,SL70s are now very sort after good examples will bring $4000+ !!! . (yep for a minicycle that they sold squillions of back then!!!) Many body parts and details like the plastic sidecovers , exhaust pipe , the mud guards, a decent tank or seat base are selling for outrageous amounts and of course are very hard hard to find now. Still nice choice for a resto, ;) Cheers Tim754 PS what State you in? NO not are you pissed or not :D
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Well, as a result of this forum, I now have a frame, rear guard, coil and foot pegs. That's a good start. :)
I also have a rear swing arm of an XL100. Can someone tell me the correct length (and other dimensions for the SL70 rswing arm, so I can modify what I have to standard dimesions, please?
Tim, I'm after any other bits that are not liste above ;D - I can't spend squillons but find most of my fun in repairing and rebuilding things that others have given up on. So if anyone has bits that are "beyond salvage", I'm your customer! ;)
Happy to document my progress here - if people are interested?
Cheers,
Joe
PS: I've updated my profile - I'm near Bendigo, Victoria
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I am in Elmore :D :D :D PM me and we will have a Chat ;)
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HONDA-SL-70-80-COMPLETE-PARTS-OR-PROJECT_W0QQitemZ280248090744QQihZ018QQcategoryZ102690QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Thank you Quicksilver, I had alraedy noticed that one and made him an offer - which he refused.... I think it is a little overpriced for what's there....
Keep looking for me everybody! :)
Tim has already added to my collection to bits and I have already made a replica of a sidestand he let me borrow.... Slowly getting there, but I expect the collection phase will take a year or two.... (and I'm still in the middle of a couple of other restorations that have to be finished before I embark on this one in ernest.)
Joe
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Maybe this one. ;)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-SL70_W0QQitemZ120286327019QQihZ002QQcategoryZ102690QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Yep, watching that one too.. :-)
I saved a favourite search and get notified every day of new bits on line.
I lurve the Internet! ::)
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Gees Joe dont go bidding against a "teed754" with a phone call first :D . We can save each other some pocket pain ;) Cheers Tim754
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I'll e-mail you tonight when I get home. Joe
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Just a quick update:
It's now over a year since I started collecting and seem to have ferretted out and acquired every bit and piece and every nut and bolt required to build a whole SL70!
Actual progress so far: frame bead blasted and repaired, then powdercoated in original colour (as close as can be),
fork stanchions newly hard-chromed, new fork seals fitted and reassembled, tank derusted, dents removed and etch primed, seat base (thanks Tim!) repaired, zinc plated and painted, wheels disassembled, hubs polished new rims and spokes fitted. That's about it for now.
I'd say another year and it will look like a real resto!
Let me knwo if anyone is interested in photos of the work in progress here...
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bring on the pics :)
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Hey guys sorry to hijack this thread but I am looking at buying an xl70 and wanted to get some reassurance on the price that this guy is asking. It's been a couple of years since I have seen the little monster but my memory is as follows...
1974 or 1975 ? XL70 in nice original condition. has key and speedo but no indicators. Missing side covers. Tank is straight and clean but paint a bit faded. Looks like original front tyre. No major rust any where. He thinks its worth about $1000 and says make an offer. (I know this guy and I don,t think he'll budge much)
What do you experienced Honda mini boys reckon?
Cheers, Chris
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Pics would be great.....it was my first bike back in 78 which i bought for $50 doing the paper round.
It was also my first engine rebuild as a 13y/old as the bike wasn't complete and had a burnt out valve worn piston,no ign/electrics,but i saved and saved and had a ball riding that bike.
31 years later.....i still have whats left of it at my mums place and i cannot part with any of the remaining parts.
Slowly i move bits from the back shed into the garage.......and my poor old mum just shakes her head knowing something is ticking over in my brain.
Maybe oneday......
I wanna see pics!!!!
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XL70s are not in the same dollar league as SL70s. Fact just look at sold ones ,not what dills want for them(and do not sell...). A grand for an XL missing the side covers and some other bits before you start, is somewhat pricey. Tim754.
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Sold me SL70 Joe...so...that green metal box of parts... and all the other stuff not a lot of use to me now ;) bring fold stuff but not a fortune mate ;) cheers Tim
Oh have the K0 K1 K2 parts books and microfichesess (shite what is the plural/collective noun of microfiche ??) Honda shop service manual and SL70 owners hand book and some sales pamphlets still too.
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Well, the years have ticked by and the grandson for whom I was building the SL70 has just turned 7!!!!
He's learnt to ride a bike (a plywood balance bike with 6" OD wheels I built for him) at the same time as learning to walk.
He went to pedal power at 2 and a 1985 'Famosa' electric MX bike at 3.
His dad restored a PW50 for him for his 4th birthday and he took to it like a duck to water!
Anyway, he's obviously outgrown the PeeWee and is itching to get on the Honda - and learn to use a clutch and gears.
So catching up in the past few months working with him and his little 5 year old brother (who wants the PW50 to himself now - just as confident and competent on it as the older one was), we embarked on building the bike.
We dissassembled the entire engine and cleaned and checked everything. It was in reasonably good wear state, just filthy.
A few TIG welding repairs for cracked bits around the chain compartment, new chains, cam sprocket train, new bearings and seals, a gently hone and new rings, new drive sprockets and a few bits and pieces that were missing.
I then had the engine cases and head parts 'vapor' or 'hydro' blasted. Just to clarify, this was a wet glass-bead blasting process which cleans the parts with serious water pressure and a slurry of glassbeads which peen the surface, rather than abrading. It gives a surface as good as new or better.
The cases repaired, fettled and thoroughly cleaned by me, and after hydro blasting:
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_WP_20140826_014.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/WP_20140826_014.jpg.html) (http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_WP_20140826_010.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/WP_20140826_010.jpg.html) (http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_WP_20140826_013.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/WP_20140826_013.jpg.html) (http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_WP_20140826_012.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/WP_20140826_012.jpg.html)
We reassembled the engine and installed it again last week. Still the electrics to go, so no 'run report' yet.
I polished all the shiney aluminium bits, had all the nuts and bolts replated and a few deteriorated chrome things rechromed.
It took several years to find suitable tyres, though I still haven't found a trials tyre (like the original) for the rear (14x2.75), so we will make do with a not too aggressive MX tyre I found in England. The front tyre came from Germany....
A few years ago I also managed to find new rims and spokes in Singapore, and a new kickstart spindle in New Zealand.
Remaining work is finishing the tank, guards, side covers and healight shell and paint them, all the electrics, finishing the recovering of the seat and making a muffler suitable. The one I got a few years ago was a write-off: all attempts to repair it failed, just too far gone.
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/Honda%20SL70/th_DSCN5119.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/Honda%20SL70/DSCN5119.jpg.html)
I picked up a 'megaphone' one that will adapt quite well and will look the part. One day I'll save up enough to buy an original or a replica....
Completion report and ride reports to come :)
Here is the tank I got and cleaned up:
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_tank2.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/tank2.jpg.html)
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_20092008005.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/20092008005.jpg.html)
The frame stand I made and repaired frame:
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_DSCN5126.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/DSCN5126.jpg.html)
This is the present state of affairs, guards, sidecovers and tank mounted temporarily to confirm fit, threads and so on:
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_IMAG1902.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/IMAG1902.jpg.html) (http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee358/joe_hovel/th_IMAG1903.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/joe_hovel/media/IMAG1903.jpg.html)
Until soon.
Joe
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Welcome back Joe :D Cheers Tim754
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Thanks Tim! Must get in touch again. I'll PM you in case your phone number has changed in the intervening years. Mine hasn't by the way.
Cheers,
Joe