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Marque Remarks => British (BSA, Greeves, Triumph etc) => Topic started by: martian170 on January 31, 2015, 12:03:56 pm
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Well finally took the plunge and bought a 58 bsa a10 basket case never had an old British bike before so steep learning curve for me. At first inspection seems I am missing the following parts
Everything clutch side is
Clutch complete
Drive chain ( looked on e bay you can get single or double chain don't know what is best)
Engine drive sprocket
Clutch push rod
Engine push rods x4
Carby needle spring and top
Carby fuel unions
Front fork internals
Any help locating parts would be helpful or any conversion I could do ie different forks suzuki clutch etc regards Martin
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Congratulations on the challenge 8) cool choice 8)
We've shopped here before :)
http://www.speedandsport.com/motocross/bsa/
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www.burtonbikebits.net
www.srmclassicbikes.com
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if its a twin its a rocket gold star
singles are gold stars
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Thanks for that it's a twin so rocket gold star it is are the rules for pre 60 same as pre 75 suspension wise ie 4 at the back and 7 at the front and can I fit aftermarket shocks ( have a spare pair from a cr 250) and can anyone recommend any forks regards Martin
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If it is a A10 it will be a 650cc Twin GOLD FLASH or ROAD ROCKET.
Gold star are singles
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Some info on the BSA Rocket Gold Star here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSA_Rocket_Gold_Star . A mate of mine owns and rides one on the road. Also :-
"All Rocket Gold Stars have the frame number prefixed with GA10 except for the first two test machines. The first one which was dispatched on 31st January 1962 with frame number GA7.12925 was fitted with engine number A10R.6380. Production began in February 1962 and the first bike, frame number GA10 101 was dispatched to BSA New Jersey on 16th February 1962. It was finished in red. There were 1584 bikes made of which 272 were scramblers." (Excerpt from Brian Pollitt article BSA Owners Club)
They are my favourite BSA model, except for the unit Spitfires. Martian, as it's a '58 model, you may have a Gold Flash, iron or alloy head ?
Foss
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Thanks for that it's a twin so rocket gold star it is are the rules for pre 60 same as pre 75 suspension wise ie 4 at the back and 7 at the front and can I fit aftermarket shocks ( have a spare pair from a cr 250) and can anyone recommend any forks regards Martin
Great to read about another BSA being built for scrambles. Hope you have fun with it. The good news is, they are a pretty simple engine to work on.
Pay close attention to cam timing as this where most power can be lost or gained on any of the old pushrod pommie motors.
Yes, the rules are the same regarding travel limits for suspension. The forks will need to be of the period. There are a couple of choices for the good forks. Ceriani's, Betor or Roadholder's are the gun forks for the era. Personally, I think the ceriani's are over priced for what you get. I have Roadholder's on my B44.
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Pretty sure that betor's and ceriani's are for pre 64 not pre 60?
Anyone got documentation proving otherwise?
Cheers. DJ
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From the numbers thinking gold flash frame FA7.6623 engine DA10. 3622
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Which state are you in Martin? Send me message with your number and I will give you a call or you can ring me on 0427603182.
Cheers Nick
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This place will have a lot of parts
www.britishspares.com
Also
Mike Riley at Beenleigh Queensland is a Gold Star Specialist
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Thanks for that it's a twin so rocket gold star it is are the rules for pre 60 same as pre 75 suspension wise ie 4 at the back and 7 at the front and can I fit aftermarket shocks ( have a spare pair from a cr 250) and can anyone recommend any forks regards Martin
Yep, 7 and 4 is the go, but before you get started on the bike have a look on the www.ma.org.au site, read through the Manual of Motorcycle Sport, particularly chapter 16 for classic mx rules, and 16:15.7 for pre-60 rules. No point knocking something up, then finding out it's not compliant. There are several threads on this forum based on little else, and there's a long history of people turning up with bikes outside the rules who have left cursing and not returned.
Should be a good weapon though Martin, a big twin sounds great in a vmx field. Best of luck with your build.
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Ok so I have stripped the beast and found the following missing
Front fork springs
Complete clutch including any lock washers and nuts etc
Drive chain and engine Cush drive ( have spring and end nut)
4 engine push rods
Clutch push rod
Gear selector pedal
Foot rests both sides
Gearbox tensioner bolt does it have one
Oil tank filter and plug plus tank filler top
Chain case screw in inspection filler nut
Oil pipe lines I have none
40 spoke rim rear 19 inch
Full set wheel spokes or just rear
Fuel tap I only have one
Carby top,spring and needle and fuel banjo double I assume
Full gasket set
Ht lead pick ups
gonna go with spitfire exhausts
Full set cables
Fuel lines
Can anyone recommend a vintage dismantling place oz or states that may have all this gear
Also do I need a steering damper noticed on eBay you can get them but do I need one
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For used parts - Murrays brit bikes/brit spares (not sure of exact name, lists in Just Bikes magazine) http://kmmotorcycles.com/frame.html
Good places i use often and recommend which will have what you want are
www.classicallparts.com.au
https://www.draganfly.co.uk
http://www.burtonbikebits.net/
www.feked.com
http://www.vintage-motorcycle.com/
http://modakmotorcycles.com.au/ (have not use for years)
http://burlen.co.uk/
http://surreycycles.com/
www.davelindsley.co.uk/
And british spares in NZ is gonna have a lot of what you need too (address in my earlier post)
I looked through your list and all those parts are going to be available
Start with British spares in NZ and Draganfly in UK first. They are the best. Then go to the others for what they don't have.
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Awesome thanks for that will start working though the list
Do I need a steering damper ie something a got to have or just road use
Only thing I have not found is the ht lead pick ups but shops / stores may may these ( hopefully)
Regards
Martin
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Well project sort a finished achieved 9 laps at the last narrogin meet went really well after Peter lawson told me it was only running on one cylinder. Gradually built up speed but the gear change and brake on wrong sides where scary, things to do make more decent foot pegs and swap over rear brake and gears other than that ready for wondering then the Nationals thanks to all for help advice and support , most improved modern modification has to be the bright spark magneto condenser worked a treat
Ps if Ya in my race you may need ear muffs whilst overtaking the girls a tad loud
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be careful with "being loud" for the Nats.
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(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/Martian170/image.jpg3_zps4evmrdg5.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/Martian170/media/image.jpg3_zps4evmrdg5.jpg.html)
WTF This may be my bsa when I picked it up if it works woo hoo if it don't I am still computer illiterate
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8) eat yer heart out scrivo ;), :P
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(http://i1296.photobucket.com/albums/ag15/Martian170/image.jpg3_zpss7ye7jry.jpg) (http://s1296.photobucket.com/user/Martian170/media/image.jpg3_zpss7ye7jry.jpg.html)
Doing something wrong keep posting the same image but finally found this one the completed beast would be nice to ride if the gear change and brake where on the correct side tend to crap myself at every corner aaaaaarh
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8) eat yer heart out scrivo ;), :P
Yes Mick I know. I piked it. The A65 broke my spirit I am afraid BUT my Pre65 Bully is a great bike and the A65 will come to the track when finished by another Heaven member.
Congrates on a great build Martian170, looks sweet.
MOMS requires a silencer but that has not been universally applied at nationals in the past it seems
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Hey Martin, at recent nationals.. the requiremnet to have a silencer has been enforced.. I believe tho..if it looks like you have made an attempt.. all good.. even if the actual "silencing" was minimal...I know Gosta Lindgren was running around fitting a silencer to his BSA at Pt Augusta last year on Friday arvo..as Nick would say.. "aural splendor'..
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The guy who races a A65 over here in NZ has genuine Ascot pipes on his bike, the pipes look straight through until you look closely & discover they have some form of insert inside the pipes which definitely work. He reckons there is no shortage of power & from what I've seen it appears it's easier to keep the noise down on a big twin than a single