OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => Tech Talk => Topic started by: Toolboy on October 20, 2014, 02:52:40 pm
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Gday all,
Any recommendations for which company can rebuild my RM250Z rear shock in the Sunny Coast??
Thanks
Tim
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Teknik Suspension in Sydney, Ted will give you the ph number.
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Teknik Suspension is no longer doing Vintage suspension. Modern yes but no more vintage.
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Try Full force racing in m'dore. Good price and service. Stay well away from MPE you won't get either.
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Teknik Suspension is no longer doing Vintage suspension. Modern yes but no more vintage.
I am interested to know why? Too much of a head fork :-\ ,Are us VMX'ers too hard to deal with? Enough work to do on moderns etc?
I have never used them,just wondered why :)
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RAD in Brisneyland?
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I haven't used this guy yet, but first impressions are good?
https://m.facebook.com/pages/ATR-Suspension-Services/157152254432880?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.au%2Furl&_rdr
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Teknik Suspension is no longer doing Vintage suspension. Modern yes but no more vintage.
I am interested to know why? Too much of a head fork :-\ ,Are us VMX'ers too hard to deal with? Enough work to do on moderns etc?
I have never used them,just wondered why :)
All of the above.
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I have used RAD before but Im now in hurry to fix shock before Masters Games so with work commitments i was hoping locally would be a good source.
I have heard mixed reports about MPE...
Thanks
Tim
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I have used RAD before but Im now in hurry to fix shock before Masters Games so with work commitments i was hoping locally would be a good source.
I have heard mixed reports about MPE...
Thanks
Tim
Gday Tim, Try Andy Thomason at ATR, 0428 989 359 he's based at Morayfield - often see him at bigger QVMX events like Conondale Classic working on Glen Bell etc bikes. He's from MPE and doesn't mind working on vintage suspension. Anyway good luck - see you at Masters
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Not sure if he still does suspension work but heaven racer Dave "Middo" Middleton used to do mine when I lived in Sydney and his work and price points were excellent.
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Suspension Matters would be my recommendation in Qld.
Dave helped me set up the forks on my YZ200, and they're the best forks I've ever ridden on.
But it's a mono tube shock - they're not rocket science. If anyone thinks it's too hard to fit a new seal and some clean oil to one, then they aren't a suspension specialist's bum-hole.
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I've done a few of these myself.
They're easy enough to do but if they are too worn out there's not much you can do with them.
You can still get the seal heads and bump stops to suit but the shock piston band usually is stuffed.
This is a part that they don't make a replacement for. You may be lucky if yours is still ok.
You can put a gold valve or ohlins piston in it if you want to use it long term.
Also being an alloy body the shock oil gets contaminated pretty quickly. :o
All being said I don't think they are a bad shock for OEM.
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ATR Suspension Services at Caboolture. Andy Thomason. He has done forks and shocks for Glen Bell and James Deakin.
Give him a call 0428 989 359
Kevin
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ATR Suspension Services at Caboolture. Andy Thomason. He has done forks and shocks for Glen Bell and James Deakin.
Give him a call 0428 989 359
Kevin
And therein lies the problem Kev. Fast guys like them know that suspension is the major key to riding fast. Knowing this they will source the best product regardless of price. Unfortunately when the average VMXer gets told by a competent suspension technician that their suspension upgrade is worth more than they have invested in their whole bike they carry on about getting ripped off, citing they can get new shocks off EBay ....blah blah. Where I live there was four specialist specialist suspension shops. Two that did vintage have closed down, one refuses to touch vintage and the other one, well good luck with them.
Example 1:
Customer: I want the same suspension as Bill
Shop: No problem
Customer: How much?
Shop: ?XXXX
Customer: the whole bike didn't cost me that much. Are you serious?
Shop. Yes. You said you want the same
Customer: Can't you do it cheaper?
Shop: No
Customer: Well can't you do it nearly the same and cut the cost?
Shop: No. It won't work properly
Customer: what do you mean it won't work properly? Do you know what you are doing?
Shop: Absolutely.
Customer: Rants Raves blah blah. Half hour has gone by and customer hangs up with the shits.
Example2:
Customer: Do you have fork springs for a 72 blah blah
Shop: No but I can get some made
Customer: How much?
Shop: ?XXX
Customer: When?
Shop: Allow four weeks
Customer: Ok. Order them, I'll be in next week to fix you up
Shop: no problem. I'll order them now.
Customer: Rings every day with " my mate reckons them springs will be weighted wrong, blah blah"
Shop: Who's doing the job, me or your mate?
Customer: You are.
Shop: ok well let me do it
Customer: Rings every day
Shop: I told you four weeks
Customer: Blah blah. Another half hour wasted.
Four weeks comes and customer has not been sighted. Shop stuck with order. This has happened on numerous occasions. This is why some won't touch vintage.
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Ted / Walter ... Its not about paying top dollar and expecting the best of the best when riding VMX bikes. Its more so getting the enjoyment factor feel right and going home with a feel of enjoyment without emptying your wallet out along the way.
Most of the bikes we ride are way beyond their us by date ... they are yesterdays bikes and will always be.
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ATR Suspension Services at Caboolture. Andy Thomason. He has done forks and shocks for Glen Bell and James Deakin.
Give him a call 0428 989 359
Kevin
And therein lies the problem Kev. Fast guys like them know that suspension is the major key to riding fast. Knowing this they will source the best product regardless of price. Unfortunately when the average VMXer gets told by a competent suspension technician that their suspension upgrade is worth more than they have invested in their whole bike they carry on about getting ripped off, citing they can get new shocks off EBay ....blah blah. Where I live there was four specialist specialist suspension shops. Two that did vintage have closed down, one refuses to touch vintage and the other one, well good luck with them.
Example 1:
Customer: I want the same suspension as Bill
Shop: No problem
Customer: How much?
Shop: ?XXXX
Customer: the whole bike didn't cost me that much. Are you serious?
Shop. Yes. You said you want the same
Customer: Can't you do it cheaper?
Shop: No
Customer: Well can't you do it nearly the same and cut the cost?
Shop: No. It won't work properly
Customer: what do you mean it won't work properly? Do you know what you are doing?
Shop: Absolutely.
Customer: Rants Raves blah blah. Half hour has gone by and customer hangs up with the shits.
Example2:
Customer: Do you have fork springs for a 72 blah blah
Shop: No but I can get some made
Customer: How much?
Shop: ?XXX
Customer: When?
Shop: Allow four weeks
Customer: Ok. Order them, I'll be in next week to fix you up
Shop: no problem. I'll order them now.
Customer: Rings every day with " my mate reckons them springs will be weighted wrong, blah blah"
Shop: Who's doing the job, me or your mate?
Customer: You are.
Shop: ok well let me do it
Customer: Rings every day
Shop: I told you four weeks
Customer: Blah blah. Another half hour wasted.
Four weeks comes and customer has not been sighted. Shop stuck with order. This has happened on numerous occasions. This is why some won't touch vintage.
I don't find that at all and a part of that is the shop for not taking time to explain WHY they don't think it's best option in the long run. The shop can always has the option to do exactly what the customer asks as well. In case of custom orders would be silly not to take a deposit before the shop ordered a item in. It aint all the customers fault.