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Clubroom => Vinduro => Topic started by: Slakewell on September 07, 2014, 04:20:55 pm
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I have owned and race a few of these and it's hard to go past the KDX 200. I had an 87 model that I raced at the 4 day and NSW rounds. I also have owned the IT 175 which again is dam good bike. Then there the 125's plus the Husky and KTM 175's all with there own good points. Which is your passion?
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I'm really happy with my 86 IT 200. Full sized bike without the weight. Disc brake front is great.
Am taking my YZ 465 as well as the 200 to Cookardinia Vinduro in two weeks. I know the YZ won't be fun but I want to give it a run.
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175/200s:
KDX200, all the way.
IT200 is also a good bus. Better suspension and brakes than the KDX, but the motor and the handling aren't as good as the the green bikes.
XR200 rates a mention, even though they aren't a patch on a the KDX or IT in pure performance terms. But they work because they're so damn easy to ride, fast or slow.
Everything else is crap in comparison, although they may have attributes that particular riders like.
Talking 125s, the Swedish Husky 125s were all dogs.
The IT125 is a cool little bike, but it's really just a hotted up, 125cc version of the later DT175.
My 84 KTM125 promised to be brilliant, but is never rode it enough to prove the point.
TBH, if the best Pre-85 125 enduro bike isn't the 84 KTM, it is probably an 84 CR125 or KX125...
Pre-90, it's the 87-89 KTM or the 88/89 KX125, with the CR in third place. The RMs were all too peaky, while the YZs were too slow and/or too crap in the suspension (with 1988 being their high point).
A good mate owned an '86 WR125, and it was one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever ridden. Way too slow to make the big bike chassis work properly, which added insult to the injury of the fact that it was damn slow.
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2 valve XR200 with a disk brake front end of a 84 250 fitted. I am running a 85 250 frame with the 2 valve engine fitted for the better ergo's. Easy to find parts for as most parts are still in production. Easy to ride, excellent handling. Will keep up with everything anywhere except open trails like Harrow. but you quickly make it back when it gets tight.
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Well I must be a bit slow but am building up a husky 82 xc125 for vinduros.... lol
Carnt wait to give it a run in the bush, I not really fussed how fast it is as long as its reliable.
You have to be quick with the IT200's they seem to sell pretty quick look like a great bike.
A 86 IT200 would have to a good thing with the front disk.
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Suzuki Pe 175 1980 & 1981 would piss all over the rest back in the day when they were new, plus have the medals to prove it. ;)
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Suzuki Pe 175 1980 & 1981 would piss all over the rest back in the day when they were new, plus have the medals to prove it. ;)
I'm with you Disco Stu, but vinduro is pre 85. I am regretting selling the mighty PE
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Suzuki Pe 175 1980 & 1981 would piss all over the rest back in the day when they were new, plus have the medals to prove it. ;)
I'm with you Disco Stu, but vinduro is pre 85. I am regretting selling the mighty PE
Ummm? :D
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I see were your coming from Nathan re husky 125's but ive been passed by enough of them to know they can be a great ride.
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Go with the Euro Champ KTM
A Bike Made for racing / Enduro that you can trail Bike Ride .....
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Pre 85, IT200L.
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I think the 84 kato is the pick of them. better brakes than the kdx, strong motor for a 125. if only they were as reliable.
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And they have that lovely magnesium clutch cover...
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What about a Can Am 200 ASE?
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In the late 70' and early 80's it was always a sea of blue , yellow with sprinklings of green at enduros.
The yamahas , suzuki's and kawasaki's were hard to beat just based on the entry numbers.
IMHO the 175 PE was the most popular for riders
We were always on Euro bikes , but having said that the Jap bikes were very popular .
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The 81 KTM 125 mx lc was something special engine and suspension wise.
The 125 Huskys of that era handled like nothing else.
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The 125 Huskys of that era handled like nothing else.
That could mean anything, or nothing ;D
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The 125 Huskys of that era handled like nothing else.
That could mean anything, or nothing ;D
I suppose if you had ridden one then you would understand.
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(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t512/oz555ktm/8154b8c5.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/oz555ktm/media/8154b8c5.jpg.html)
1984 125cc
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sweet ;)
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Junk ;D
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no lights ;)
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(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t512/oz555ktm/DSCN9954_zpsb85436a1.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/oz555ktm/media/DSCN9954_zpsb85436a1.jpg.html)
The 1984 was a Very good Bike ..
I sold I of My water cooled Bikes . I had to say No to H2o
But My 1981 KTM 125 that I do Vinduro is very Fast in the Bush .
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Is that the disc valve engine ?
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That's Dennis who said no to H2O and magnesium, and No it isn't.
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Pre 85
Did a lap on a PE Full Floater at Rockley and was impressed with the rear suspension, motor pulled strongly from the bottom too.
XR 200 is the 'Stealth Fighter' people scoff at them and they seem slow but you can get them moving quite easily. No good in deep sand or wide open sections.
KDX 200 pulls from the bottom better than the KDX 175
If I had to choose one it would be either 84 IT or KDX 200
Post 85
I test rode both the IT & KDX 200 in 86. KDX seemed the stronger motor so that's what I bought. Great bike and I have 2 of them neatly stored in boxes now
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/My%20bikes/KDX-200-1B.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/My%20bikes/KDX-200-1B.jpg.html)
87 KX/KDX 125 was my next choice, great bike and I have an 88 neatly stored in boxes now.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/My%20bikes/87KX125before-1.jpg) (http://s15.photobucket.com/user/gmcloa/media/My%20bikes/87KX125before-1.jpg.html)
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WR200 if it is old enough for class,
The kdx200 good thing too
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For me it has to be absolutely reliable. No matter how fast it goes (with-in reason) or how well it handles (with-in reason) it's no good to anyone sitting beside a trail with the clock ticking.
XR200 it is then. :o
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PE kdx and It fit those requirements too.
husky as well (as long as it doesn't have the SEM (Seldom Electricity Making) ign.) :)
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Any of the jap bikes fit the reliability criteria, no drama.
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You gotta go with a yami it 200 or tt 250 still can get new parts pretty easy still , reliable is good and probably I hybrid husky roller with the tt 250 motor
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(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w494/XC83/wrk.png) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/XC83/media/wrk.png.html)
88 Cagiva I mean Husqvarna WRK 125
Although my YZEE 125 was a pretty good tool, (Conondale circa 1988 A4DE) but I always coveted the Husky.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w494/XC83/7b9495bc.jpg) (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/XC83/media/7b9495bc.jpg.html)
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I had an 84 Husky WR 125 and cant remember ever finishing a race , but that may have been more to do with me than the bike. It did handle rough tracks far better than the jap stuff but it was also dam slow. I did love the KTM's of the era and had some success with them.
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so Slakey ol mate whats the verdict?? do you think there is an answer or is it a brand loyalty issue?? Is there ...dare I say ..a winner?
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So do we make Euros with Jap engines.
MMMMM Husky 250 with XR250 motor.
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84 xr "hand grenade engine" your kidding? reliable as a Lada...
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Muz got his to go.
(http://i712.photobucket.com/albums/ww125/NoelSR/007-2.jpg)
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For me it has to be absolutely reliable. No matter how fast it goes (with-in reason) or how well it handles (with-in reason) it's no good to anyone sitting beside a trail with the clock ticking.
XR200 it is then. :o
XR200's are not as relieble as everyone thinks. Slipping kickstarters are a pain, cam chains wear out quick, rings don't last long and inlet valves wear. However thats mainly on bikes that get ridden hard ::)
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82 SWM 175 just ask Noel
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so Slakey ol mate whats the verdict?? do you think there is an answer or is it a brand loyalty issue?? Is there ...dare I say ..a winner?
Buy what Colour you like ;) I have not ridden the SMW 175 but I would like to. No one here seems to own a Husky 175? I'm building an XR 200 for Vinduro with a bit of twist. I know its not fast but I laugh and smile every time I ride one.
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on fun factor alone the xr200 wins hands down.....
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I have a 75/76 Husky GP 175.
When I get all the bits and pieces and HuskyPete finishes tweaking it , I think it will be a rocket.
They went real well standard
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Any one like the 1978 PE175? Have a couple im looking at (slow old fart rider)
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Hey Shoey what was the Husky 175? I never understand why they and KTM dropped the 175.
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it was a kit for the 125..head barrel and pipe
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it was a kit for the 125..head barrel and pipe
I thought that was true for the early-mid-1980s models, but the earlier ones were a production bike?
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Any one like the 1978 PE175? Have a couple im looking at (slow old fart rider)
Bazza you'd need a PE 400 to carry you in the style you've grown accustomed to
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I have a 75/76 Husky GP 175.
When I get all the bits and pieces and HuskyPete finishes tweaking it , I think it will be a rocket.
They went real well standard
Husky Pete who 8) He must be giving us the silent treatment ...we don't see him on the forum anymore. Perhaps he is sharing a quite ale with Firko instead ;)
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yes you are right Nathan, it was the later 80's bikes that had the kit. mid 70's were a production bike
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I have a 75/76 Husky GP 175.
When I get all the bits and pieces and HuskyPete finishes tweaking it , I think it will be a rocket.
They went real well standard
Husky Pete who 8) He must be giving us the silent treatment ...we don't see him on the forum anymore. Perhaps he is sharing a quite ale with Firko instead ;)
Husky Pete has been in his laboratory trying to decipher why sea level jetting works in Sydney but fails in sea level Port Augusta SA. ( Oh, and don't mention rear sprocket guards to him )