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Clubroom => Bike Talk => Topic started by: albrid-3 on July 22, 2014, 08:27:06 pm

Title: Suzuki orYamaha
Post by: albrid-3 on July 22, 2014, 08:27:06 pm
Comparing between a Suzuki 250 RM 1977-78 model to a Yamaha yz 250 of the same era. which one would you consider.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: mainline on July 22, 2014, 08:40:05 pm
For resale value?
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: 80-85 husky on July 22, 2014, 08:50:42 pm
suzooks had the wood on most brands during that era, I would go the yellow
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: albrid-3 on July 22, 2014, 08:55:20 pm
No not for sale value, for racing value.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Iain Cameron on July 22, 2014, 08:56:38 pm
As  completely non bias I would say go with the tuning fork Dave .
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: bazza on July 22, 2014, 08:58:25 pm
Suzuki if its a Keeper
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Ted on July 22, 2014, 10:30:38 pm
Toss a coin. Both very good Pre 78 models.

However parts and accessories are far more readily available for the Yammy.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Simo63 on July 22, 2014, 10:39:13 pm
Both are good but the YZ D model was the winning bike back in the day in most circumstances.  I know that will get some "going" but it's how I saw it as a young spectator back then.

Ted's on the money with the parts .. the Yamaha parts are pretty easy to come by, particularly from the USA although Suzuki still stock a surprising number of parts for their early girls as well.

Either way you should be okay :)
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: albrid-3 on July 22, 2014, 10:56:26 pm
1977 Suzuki RM 250 A ---97 kg
1978 Suzuki RM 250B ---101 kg

1977 Yamaha YZ 250 D --?
1978 Yamaha YZ 250 E--?
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: JohnnyO on July 22, 2014, 11:04:40 pm
Even though I rode Suzuki back then the Yamaha was probably a better 250, but in the 125 class the Suzuki was the best..
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: KTM47 on July 23, 2014, 08:31:52 am
1977 Suzuki RM 250 A ---97 kg
1978 Suzuki RM 250B ---101 kg

1977 Yamaha YZ 250 D --?
1978 Yamaha YZ 250 E--?

1977 RM is a "B"  1978 C & C2
1976 RM is a A

The best 500 class bike in 1977 was the AW Maico but between the Yamaha and Suzuki, I think the Suzuki  was better.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Tahitian_Red on July 23, 2014, 09:04:12 am
The Maico was definitely number one, but I think the YZ400D was second (especially for less than expert riders).  The Husky, Suzuki and KTM fill out the field of a pretty good group, in 1977.
 ;)
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Simo63 on July 23, 2014, 09:19:54 am
And I think the GT750 Suzuki was better than the CB750 Honda in 1976/77 as well  ::)

Comparing between a Suzuki 250 RM 1977-78 model to a Yamaha yz 250 of the same era. which one would you consider.

Talk about getting off topic ..... Dave was asking about comparing a Suzuki and Yamaha 250's guys, not 500's and not other brands either.  All interesting stuff but not responding to the topic.

Does anyone actually read the previous posts before they respond?
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: KTM47 on July 23, 2014, 01:11:18 pm
Really it is like comparing a Holden and a Ford, when everyone knows the BMW is better.

The Suzukis in the 70s were really good bikes and from memory there were more Suzukis on the startline than any other brand.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Slakewell on July 23, 2014, 01:40:19 pm
KTM came 1/2/3 in the 250 world GP's that year and was the privateers choice. There happends to be a sweet KTM 400 for sale on Marks and a nice 250 on the Penton site right now.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: saint on July 23, 2014, 02:02:43 pm
Were you really hoping for an unbiased opinion Dave?  ;)
So far you have Maicos, Ktms, Bmws, Holdens, Fords to choose from.  ;D ;D
Buy both and decide for yourself??  ???
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Tahitian_Red on July 23, 2014, 02:32:07 pm
I think Simo gave the correct answer earlier.  Buy the yellow one.  ;)
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: Simo63 on July 23, 2014, 03:14:02 pm
I think Simo gave the correct answer earlier.  Buy the yellow one.  ;)

Hahaha ... good answer :)
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: albrid-3 on July 23, 2014, 08:30:45 pm
Ok, if I was going to buy a suzuki over the Yamaha.
 suzuki A, B, C or an N model what would be your choice.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: 80-85 husky on July 23, 2014, 08:45:20 pm
depends on what class you planned to race...... the best plan is to get the bike as close to the age cut off as possible unless there is an well known issue with a particular model.... id go N as it will have the most suspension travel....best for old bodies...!! :D ;D you need to sort what racing (if any) you want to embrace.
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: KTM47 on July 23, 2014, 09:02:47 pm
The simple answer is if you want a Pre 78 a B model is the one to get.  If you are going EVO really a T is better but you didn't ask that.  The N is the newer of the models you asked about but they are ugly the T looks a 100% better. 
Title: Re: Suzuki or Yamaha
Post by: albrid-3 on July 23, 2014, 09:10:11 pm

 I went last sunday to the Viper meeting and enjoyed myself, I got the fire in the belly again to have a ride at viper, and fishin for your thoughts on these two models.
Title: Re: Suzuki orYamaha
Post by: mustanggrahame on July 23, 2014, 09:40:38 pm
Pre 78, buy a Yamaha. Easy to keep going and as good as anything else that era to ride. Why are you looking at later stuff Dave? If you want Evo, again buy Yamaha or Husqvarna. Easy to keep going and buy parts for. It's up to the rider to make a bike a winner.
Title: Re: Suzuki orYamaha
Post by: Viper79 on July 23, 2014, 09:51:36 pm
Dave,

Rider numbers is Viper over the years are slowly heading towards pre85 and pre90.
If you were to ride Viper, the RM/N or T would fit into EVO & pre85
VCM still have a large following of pre78 riders so your RM/A or B or the YZ/D would fit right in.
Also a pre78 bike will allow you to ride pre78 classes in Viper, VCM & CSC.
I have a YZ400D which I'm happy with, the pre78 bikes are getting a little thin on the ground but in saying that, you walked past a YZ250D for sale at Barrabool on Sunday.
Between the RM or the YZ I think it will come down to what ever you can get.  The YZ would be a bit better as far as parts availability goes.