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Title: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: albrid-3 on June 07, 2014, 02:59:37 pm
It really pisses me off when owners of these bikes that we buy, and we  pay good money for them, when we buy these so call polished up shed queens, and they go ahead and make, make shift parts with foreign bolts, and you end up having problems removing them ( she will right mate it will do the trick) and mounting engines in frames with wrong bolts, also having problems trying to remove them. and I also have a bike that I bought, that some dickhead decided to welded up the primary sprocket, to bloody lazy and a tight arse to go and buy the right nut to keep the sprocket on.  >:( 
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: pokey on June 07, 2014, 03:22:19 pm
I've pondered the same questions Dave and I think its a conspiracy by the people who would benefit the most. Bloody angle grinder salespeople.
All bikes should come with a pair of oven mittens that must be worn and dont come off till you answer a few basic maintenance questions.
My boys arnt into bikes or anything manual, maybe the pair of purple mittens on the tool board have scared them off.
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Post by: EML on June 07, 2014, 04:41:19 pm
Get yourself a good old WASP, Some Imperial, some metric some FIIK what??? Shit welded on, bolted on, glued on, wired on..... 
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Post by: Rosco86 on June 07, 2014, 05:04:00 pm
Same with a Godden, have a full range of spammers. Interesting build when from new the grind the heads of bolts and turn them into a cone shape as they don't have the correct amount of clearance through their design . Not the flashiest way to hold rear shockies on.
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: pancho on June 07, 2014, 05:41:56 pm
 Fact of life -some people should never be allowed to own an electric welder. ::)
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Post by: smalls717 on June 07, 2014, 07:32:37 pm
Thought I was the only one who ended up with crap like that.
What is the brain thought when people but a mudguard on for instance and they have 3 or 4 different size bolts, and even hex head, Allen screw.
They need about six spanners to get one guard off.
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 07, 2014, 07:40:36 pm
Dave I think the worst are ex farm bikes they make most young blokes look like a tradesman ,Farmers just fit anything (its about the same size as he uses a whitworth bolt into a metric nut ).
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Doc on June 07, 2014, 07:43:27 pm
that's why I buy bottom of the barrel shitters..least I know what I'm getting  :o
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Post by: 80-85 husky on June 07, 2014, 09:43:15 pm
Hey, most people don't have a full range of the appropriate nuts and bolts on Saturday night when the shit breaks off while trying to get the pus bucket going for when your mates are turning up on sunday at 7.00 to go riding 2 hrs drive away..... as for farmers.... 8)
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: albrid-3 on June 07, 2014, 11:20:29 pm
have you heard of monday, tuesday wednesday thursday friday, trading hours 9 to 5pm, and ebay. ;)
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 08, 2014, 10:18:46 am
that would take forethought and planning....some thing not observed in the male species till their about 40 yo ;D
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: GMC on June 08, 2014, 11:14:23 am
Bikes only get looked after for the first year of their life, maybe longer if they have the original owner.
After that its often the not so well off or skill challenged that buy old bikes, especially old MX bikes which are mostly worthless once they're 2 years old

It always pays to inspect before you buy
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: bigk on June 08, 2014, 12:26:54 pm
The problem is usually in the details or lack there of. I find that while sellers usually don't straight out lie, they also do not volunteer information. As a buyer you have to ask the hard questions. No doubt Dave, had you been advised of said issues before you got the bike home & discovered them, you possibly (probably) would have taken it in your stride & still bought it anyway, but as an informed buyer, aware of any niggly issues. It's the nasty surprise that leaves the bitter taste.
K
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: pokey on June 08, 2014, 12:53:02 pm
We all use the non genuine that bits stuffed and that's worn out reasoning's to get a better price, a bit harder on Fleabay as we cant inspect the item prior but we can argue not as described and sort out a correct price. I rarely buy complete bikes sight unseen unless its a damn good bargain and I know what im in for.

"Yeah mate I know that's what price is on all the other ones on Fleabay  and they may be worth it but see this bit? well its not right and that bit isn't right and It will take me a few bucks and a hell of a lot of hours to change that bit as its useless. Now that you know this I cant really see myself giving you the asking price can I?. How does $250 bucks sound would you be happy with that?" nine times out of ten it works and everyone is happy.

Caveat Emptor I guess.
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: pancho on June 08, 2014, 01:16:42 pm
 When I bought my RT1 from a farm shed near Yass and got it home for strip down the assortment of nuts and bolts utized for its last assembly were a sight to behold!
 I could forgive the limited use of an occasional odd bolt and nut for emergency, but Whitworth seemed a bit desperate but what took the cake was a couple of ancient SQUARE whitworth nuts square thread and all used for spacers.
 
However I kept smiling 'cos after travelling down to Yass to get some ol' twin-shock yammy which turned out to be                              a '69 RT1 for $100! ;D
cheers pancho
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: maxvmx on June 08, 2014, 03:16:08 pm
I have realistic expectations buying a 40+ year old bike that was only meant to last one or two seasons - getting it back to OEM is what makes it challenging and enjoyable.
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 08, 2014, 03:37:38 pm
I think we all know that what we are getting will not be perfect , but I do get right pissed when all they needed to do was add a 6mm bolt to the shift lever it must be easier than welding the damn thing on .
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Tim754 on June 08, 2014, 08:20:32 pm
Fight back Dave, Lash out say $14000 for a new 450cc  MX four stroke. Spend four weeks "farmerising" it. (Root up and bodgie every nut, stud, bolt, plastic part, lever, sprocket etc etc remembering to put the wretched prehistoric three phase DC arc welder to good use constantly and finish by leaving the sad carcass in a milking dairies hose down run of dam (aka   a body of metal eating putrid green liquid turds..) for three weeks. Drag the shit pile out and flog it as " Two month old crf450 with many improvements and shit hot graphics honestly never raced.............. ;) Cheers Tim754 ;)
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: albrid-3 on June 08, 2014, 08:30:53 pm
Wow, you did my head in on that paragraph Tim, I understand what your saying, I think I will have to go and lay down now.  ???
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Toolboy on June 08, 2014, 08:59:04 pm
WTF  :o :o :o :o :o

Picked up another RV and missed this in the pic's (this is what happens when you buy from pic's only)

Help!!!!!!!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v318/Airfireman/CameraPhotos605_zps0ea41c46.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Airfireman/media/CameraPhotos605_zps0ea41c46.jpg.html)

How do save the gear shaft???

Tim



Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: jerry on June 08, 2014, 09:03:36 pm
Great repair it will never come off! :) J
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Post by: pokey on June 08, 2014, 09:10:09 pm
No spring washer on that , bugger.
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Post by: mainline on June 08, 2014, 09:42:21 pm
that's actually a nice weld  ;D  I like that they left the bolt in there for aesthetics....
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 08, 2014, 10:18:05 pm
but look at the shaft on the other side of the lever . :o
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: mainline on June 08, 2014, 10:24:47 pm
but look at the shaft on the other side of the lever . :o

this side looks great though :o
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: albrid-3 on June 08, 2014, 10:25:29 pm
Tonight I am trying very hard to remove an engine from the frame, the person who mounted this, new that the next sucker that came along would have problems, (Piss off big time).
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Toolboy on June 08, 2014, 10:28:33 pm
I don't see this as being an easy grind the cocky sh!@# weld off and fit another lever,,,,,,geeeeesh
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: 80-85 husky on June 08, 2014, 10:34:37 pm
when that was done, it was at a value in the bikes life of a"slab of beer" "ya can have it for a slab, the gear levers beggared...." so that's the cheapest fix...
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: oldfart on June 09, 2014, 07:08:05 am
That's an easy fix ... imagine the surprised look on my face when I saw this ( Rm 465 )
And it is stalled at this stage until I find a replacement crank .
In reality they owned it and used what ever means that were available at the time to get it going .....even if it meant breaking out the old stick welder ::)
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i180/mutchoo/184.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/mutchoo/media/184.jpg.html)
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: jerry on June 09, 2014, 07:39:26 am
Good old Aussie know how. With respect to to this being Daves original post I reckon there's a need to start a post called maybe " Roughest, crudest botch up jobs" or something similar" J
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Lewis on June 09, 2014, 08:33:30 am
Good old Aussie know how. With respect to to this being Daves original post I reckon there's a need to start a post called maybe " Roughest, crudest botch up jobs" or something similar" J
That would be interesting,might even get to see the legendary "redgum piston".Bought a bike a while back and the seller said"Oh I'll chuck in a spare gear cluster,never know when you might need it".What a nice guy. Find the drive sprocket welded on!!!
Title: Re: People need a good kick up the arse.
Post by: Iain Cameron on June 09, 2014, 12:24:45 pm
so what are you working on Dave .