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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Digga on April 16, 2014, 08:05:51 pm

Title: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: Digga on April 16, 2014, 08:05:51 pm
Is it just me or does the following rub anybody else up the wrong way???

1. VMX/MX bikes, where the seat climbs up all over the tank (just think it looks Ugly)  :-\

2. Basball caps have always had a curved peak since they were invented in the USA back in the 30's/40's & yet now they wear caps with a flat "Stratco like" Vergola out front!!! Reminds me of Gomer Pyle (for those few of us who can remember him) ::)

3. When you jump nowdays, you have to flip your bike around 90 degrees, look for a camera, smile, wave with some sort of gangland finger gesture signal & then land as normal WTF  :o

Things have changed for the worse & got far more complicated for my liking  ;D ;D ;D ;D

If Clint was a VMX'er, he would have his M1 carbine firmly aimed at of those offenders above to "get of his lawn"

Disclaimer - for those who may take offense (& I am sure some will be), chill bro's, I am just having some fun & taking the piss (but I am serious about the seats & caps)  ;)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: Ted on April 16, 2014, 08:20:11 pm
That's nothing compared to the sticker kits they throw on them.

They call them GRAFIX
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: pmc57 on April 16, 2014, 08:43:24 pm
That's all the helmet and phone cams everywhere, it's all about getting airs, triples and  quadruples upside-down, fall on your face back flips pasted all over youtube that counts.

By the way, Clints' best line was "go ahead, make my day" with his 44 Magnum at the ready, I think he tried to invent another iconic phrase with "get off my lawn" and the M1  but it never really took off.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: Hoony on April 16, 2014, 09:27:08 pm
That's nothing compared to the sticker kits they throw on them.

They call them GRAFIX

I'm with you there, i don't know what is what with those souless bikes, but they all look the same to me and have lost their identity once all the graphics have been changed.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: topari on April 16, 2014, 09:33:37 pm
I think we had more fun in our youth than today's youth. We did not have the type of injuries or number of deaths which seem common today.

Age 54.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: albrid-3 on April 16, 2014, 09:34:23 pm
Paint them all white and they will look the same, I do like the riding gear on the trial pilots.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: brent j on April 16, 2014, 10:20:07 pm
Getting old???????????
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: Richo52 on April 16, 2014, 10:27:47 pm
I JUST love motocross OLD OR CURRENT PERIOD!!!!! Cheers Richo and I ride VMX to modern vets 50 yrs young.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: TooFastTim on April 17, 2014, 06:13:44 am
That's nothing compared to the sticker kits they throw on them.

They call them GRAFIX

But they haven't changed the oil in 6 races  ::)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: kdx 175 on April 17, 2014, 06:42:21 am
have you tryed to buy a plan helmet (one color ) you cant or pants there all multy colored pain in ass i think 
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: TooFastTim on April 17, 2014, 06:46:28 am
Paint them all white and they will look the same, I do like the riding gear on the trial pilots.

Yeah, lycra suits so tight you can tell the riders religion  :)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: William Doe on April 17, 2014, 09:15:50 am
I do think that if you are 50yrs +and to a lesser extent  45 yrs + and lived MX in the 70s and early 80s then generally todays version of the sport is very beige .

In the 70s MX was the new exciting sport ( although it had been a well followed sport for decades before ) with the arrival of relatively inexpensive and reliable bikes available to the average Joe.

Development of bikes from the early 70s to the mid 80s was at a pace not seen before or since and the arrival of the latest models always caused a flurry of excitement among the faithful.

An aftermarket industry that grew from nothing and sold everything from performance mods that actually worked to the down right bizarre .

The only media was in print at your local dealers and news stand and we had to wait to see what innovations the latest models would bring , and the aftermarket industries would soon have new offerings to help you keep last years model in touch with the latest and greatest .

To put in perspective between late 1974 and early 1976 (approx. 14 months , Suzuki offered the TM 125M  then the RM 125M , followed by the updated RM 125S and then the all new RM 125A  and each model was a big improvement over the previous one .

Todays MX scene is what it is and the young people enjoy it , you cannot compare what is today to what we had  back then  :)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: FourstrokeForever on April 17, 2014, 09:41:24 am
If only I knew then what I know now......Maybe I wouldn't have thrown myself around so much because it does get hard to get moving these days.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: Nathan S on April 17, 2014, 11:19:59 am
I do think that if you are 50yrs +and to a lesser extent  45 yrs + and lived MX in the 70s and early 80s then generally that era of the sport was very beige.

 ;D
Seriously, everyone has their golden era. I am very cautious of dismissing anyone else's golden era.

Imagine that you could only buy one model of dirt bike, and it didn't change at all from year to year - that the newest model was exactly the same as it was fifty years ago.
As old blokes, we'd still be arguing about which was the best era - and 99% of the time we'd argue that it was the time when we first discovered MX for ourselves.

There's no doubt that the sport has had it's high points and its flat times - the boom in numbers in the early 70s, the technology boom of the early-mid 80s, the SX & recession driven dive in the early 90s, the CrustyDemon inspired resurgence in the late 90s which lead into the financial boom of the early 00s, and the current tapering off as the economy slows.

None of that makes any period "beige".

The most important and exciting MX race ever is the next one. :)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: 80-85 husky on April 17, 2014, 08:38:12 pm
spot on Nathan, we are just getting old and cant cope with the new things.... face it, I remember listening to "daddy cool" and the old man shaking his head and saying..."its not music..."

he is a big jazz fan. the interesting thin is that I now have an appreciation for jazz..... ce la vie
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: MaxPower on April 19, 2014, 09:21:47 am
Many things make me grumpy and intolerant as I age. I can deal wih new riders wanting 4 strokes. As long as I don't have to own one. I can deal with the 79 3 lap motos we have at current mx tracks. I will go to a vintage or off road event. I can even deal with the new "grafix". I don't have to look at bikes with crooked side plate numbers any more

What I can't deal with every single mx race or practice track littered with do or die jumps. Even if they aren't do or die, there is a lot of air time to hook bars or cross lines going for 14th place. Mx is dangerous enough, why not make tracks fun for everyone? And by fun I mean being able to drive home to my wife Sunday night in my truck, not unfun leaving the track in an ambulance  and my wife having to come sit with me at an emergency room . That's what makes me old grumpy and intolerant.
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: shelpi on April 19, 2014, 11:13:08 am
Im not fluckin old or fluchen grumpy and i hate fluckers that accuse me of being intolerant I wish they would hurry up and fluck off,
do ya think anyone will come to my 53rd birthday (no fulcan modern bikes allowed)
and ya better bring Coopers or Ill tear ya new one.
Any who have a nice easter everyone. cheers :)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: shelpi on April 20, 2014, 10:56:08 am
When is your birthday , Peter ?
all to soon, not for good while yet Im a sagg ;)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: Tim754 on April 20, 2014, 12:29:31 pm
and who's the biggest mug waiting beside the XS beer tap,    Walter   ??? 8)                        Hee hee hee :D
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: 80-85 husky on April 21, 2014, 09:41:29 am
There was a classic moment on the BBB red plate ride for old farts when a group of revem up 450 riders came past our little group of twin shockers. you could see the looks of "what are those old pr*cks doing out here??) after lots of reving they took off. we then left a bit after them and passed some of them on the next down hill, they couldn't believe it.. it is nice to be "experienced" sometimes...
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: B074 on April 21, 2014, 10:49:27 am
Hi just sitting here on Easter Monday after a great family weekend I saw the post, all comments are true , the most I do agree on is you will always remember the era you first rode MX. For me I am 50 years old, lived in Roselands NSW while at school I had the disused brick pits at Kingsgrove after the mini bike club left , the paddocks from Kingsgrove to Salt Pan Creek Riverwood now the M5 , also Bland Oval , the legend of Menai  , Kurnell sand hills yes there was once Hills there of sand. Near Liverpool Speedway went there once also. I even rode around the bottom of the Mountains now the built out suburb of Emu Plans when I visited family friends , bike always went in the trailor or the back of my friends mum's EH wagon ( could fit 3 80cc bikes with tail gate down ) later teenage years went to Hungry Creek , Black Put gully  MX parks. Also when I was at the tracks I would also talk to other riders & ask if they know of other places to ride. Was in the local mini bike club near Wyong for 2 years now the extension of the Newcastle Highway. Many local bike shops , Beverly Hills , Bexley , Hurstville all gone. The magazines the brochure hunts at the bike shops. I lived & breathed dirt bikes. I sometimes look at the shed and bikes I own from the era and think how good it was to run home from school get the bike out and ride. Today where can I go for a quick ride ??? Appin ?? I am sure most people my age or bit older will remember the area you lived in before it got built out & the LAWS just got harder & costly. So was this the great era of Dirt Bikes ?  Anyway happy Easter. :)
Title: Re: Getting old, grumpy & intolerant???
Post by: pancho on April 21, 2014, 02:23:48 pm
 Back in the  ancient times, I was with my brother and my ol' man living up at Everton Park Brisbane after family disruption, and was introduced to an ex army Beeza that pop was repairing for a mate of his. Brother and I probably drove the other business owners in the area nuts riding this thing back and forth at the back of the Brisbane River warves small industrial area.
 Next was back at Villawood Henry lawson Drive area Tillochs Hill etc on my mates C11.
 Got hold of a rigid 500 AJay already set up for dirt track and went out to the old Crossroads Short Circuit dirt track, no longer in use but it was pretty good , learned about falling off flat out in third gear.

 Didn't learn how not to do that yet! Trouble is I might be running out of time!
cheers pancho