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Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: petard on March 12, 2014, 03:55:15 pm

Title: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: petard on March 12, 2014, 03:55:15 pm
SUBJECT: CLASSIC SCRAMBLING CAN BE AFFORDABLE.
Peter Ellard President of the Classic Scramble Club said today.
“The Classic Scramble Club will be running all future series club events under the AASA insurance scheme.
We have taken this action to make classic scrambling more affordable to riders” he said.
“Currently the cost of classic scrambling for riders is becoming cost prohibitive and this has serious consequences on organizing clubs with rider numbers dropping.
Clubs cannot be continually forced into putting up entry fees because of outside influences.
Taking this action we are certain that we can cut entry fees and therefore attract more riders into our sport, by simply making it affordable” he said.
“The only outside cost is a one off $50.00 annual license fee payable to AASA which riders must have before entering and a $90.00 entry fee payable to the CSC for organized club events. Whilst most running costs will remain the same the biggest savings will be made by dropping all or part of the $55.00 one day license fee and the $290.00 annual and the rider $11.00 levy from the current entry costs to riders” he said.
“The Classic Scramble Club will not be ceasing its’ affiliation with Motorcycling Victoria as we see MV as a very vital resource for competitive motor cycling in Victoria, this also gives our members another aspect to compete in other clubs organized events which will provide funds to MV” he concluded

Author Peter Ellard (President)   
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: John Orchard on March 12, 2014, 04:25:07 pm
Well done, thankyou.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Nathan S on March 12, 2014, 07:11:04 pm
Nice work. It's good to see a club take the leap out of their comfort zone, for the benefit of their members.
The more clubs do it, the more MA will be forced to sharpen their act.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Brian Watson on March 12, 2014, 07:18:14 pm
So..on this side of the Island... buy your one day licence / National comp licence..(something you have to work out depending on how many rides you are going to do for the year) (or Nats licence)..entry fee to race at a club day.. $25... Club membership $80....away you go.....
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Tossa on March 12, 2014, 08:25:37 pm
So..on this side of the Island... buy your one day licence / National comp licence..(something you have to work out depending on how many rides you are going to do for the year) (or Nats licence)..entry fee to race at a club day.. $25... Club membership $80....away you go.....

Yep works well over here.  Do more than 5 rides a year and you've paid for the Nat Lic, rather than the $55.00 for the one meet ( 5x 55.00=275.00).
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Tossa on March 14, 2014, 11:18:40 am
The Real Cost of Racing
http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?action=post;topic=33708.0;last_msg=328690
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: petard on March 14, 2014, 11:48:13 am
no problems with the licence fee, the $25.00 to the club appears to be a bit light to cover other expenses, $150.00 race permit, $11.00 rider levy, cost of venue hire, first aid payment,  providing facilities for riders and spectators, these are expenses that need to be taken into account when calculating costs.
 
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Tossa on March 14, 2014, 02:49:27 pm
The figures Watto HVA 1 put up are quite correct for both "Classic" clubs in WA.   The fee might only change by about $5.00 for some events.  The clubs lease their own venues on a peppercorn rent.  We don't hold any championship events etc, but we have a damn good time
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Spanish Armada on March 16, 2014, 05:37:45 pm
Have one question if i turn up at a csc meet is a MA license excepted and vice versa is the new license excepted by viper and vcm .
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: jerry on March 16, 2014, 05:46:17 pm
Good question. Perhaps Peter E from CSC can answer. I will try and find out from VCM perspective. J
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: petard on March 16, 2014, 07:43:41 pm
only our series events  will be run under the aasa system and there requirements are that every entrant must hold their club licence therefore an ma licence would not be acceptable.
riding any other clubs' events (vcm or viper) a one day ma comp or national licence would be needed.
I am not aware of ma ratifying the aasa licence.
 

Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Spanish Armada on March 17, 2014, 06:27:52 am
Then a regular rider that rides in CSC and other clubs and also vinduro  how can they benefit is this when they have to still hold another license
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: JAP 454 on March 17, 2014, 08:28:32 am
Interesting to note that the Superbike meeting at Wakefield this past weekend was an AASA sanctioned event.
Foss
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Andrew L on March 17, 2014, 09:01:59 am
Ill move my post in the other tread to here as it seems to be overlooked in the other

Haven't been on here for a while and must of missed all the clubs info on this change but have a few queries.

Last year the MA structured entry was from memory $60.00 per event, license $290.00 for an annual one, total cost with seven rounds $710.00 and the bonus to do other events with other clubs and the nationals.

New structure is $90.00 for an entry plus $50.00 for annual license, total cost for the seven rounds $680.00, if you do other clubs events or nationals extra $55.00 for day license equals $735.00 and rising.

May be beneficial to the people who don't do every round I suppose but not to me. Doesn't add up to me but maybe I'm looking at it wrongly would be pleased to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Andrew L on March 17, 2014, 04:58:34 pm
Killed two threads now with that question/observation.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: bazza on March 17, 2014, 07:01:53 pm
so it will be $90 plus day licence for classic dirt??
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Andrew L on March 17, 2014, 11:28:21 pm
Thanks for pointing that out bazza now I have to buy one more licence to ride that I didn't have to buy last year
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: NSR on March 17, 2014, 11:43:58 pm
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so it will be $90 plus day licence for classic dirt??

Bazza, Not sure how this has anything to do with CD?

   
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: VMX247 on March 18, 2014, 12:07:14 am
Clasdic Dirt Registrations not up yet !! Cost unknown !!
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: petard on March 18, 2014, 01:39:05 pm
the csc took this action firstly for our members to get a cheaper way of competing in  csc series events. last year our members were paying $55.00 plus $11.00 for a one day comp licence and rider levy or $290.00 for the annual licence and again $11.00 rider levy plus club costs which equates to an entry fee of $115.00 which includes the one day licence and levy or approx. $105 which includes the cost on the national licence and rider levy. so the cost savings to our members will be the costs of the ma licence fee as opposed to the $50.00 aasa annual licence fee and the cheaper 014 entry fee.
this year all members will pay the same $50.00 annual aasa licence and $90.00 per event this covers a break up of insurance and club costs per rider for the event.
as we are affiliated with mv our members have been advised that they can ride other mv clubs events and depending on the number of events the one day comp licence would suit or if they were to ride 6 or more mv events then a national licence would be the cheaper alternative. also if they wished to compete in a national championship the one event national licence would suit.
what we see is that we have provided a cheaper alternative for our members who ride only csc series events and a choice if they also wish to ride mv permitted events.   
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Rookie#1 on March 18, 2014, 02:17:27 pm
So some costs of have come down and some costs have risen, fair enough. Aside from all the money that is taken for MA or AASA or whatever....exactly how much was the CLUB charging for entry to an event last year 2013?  and how how much does the CLUB charge for entry now in 2014??
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: petard on March 18, 2014, 02:55:52 pm
the entry fee for 2013 was $115 or approx $105 if a ma licence was purchased, this year our entry fee will be $90.00
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: XR on March 18, 2014, 03:01:30 pm
Should be a Politician   :o  ;D
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Brian Watson on March 18, 2014, 04:23:44 pm
should get a dictionary ???
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Brian Watson on March 18, 2014, 04:26:45 pm
Just kidding.... so.. petard..why do you charge so much to enter a club day...as previously stated.. on this side of the island we only charge $25 to race... unless it is on a private property and then the cost goes up $5 and the extra goes to the landowner... of which we only have 5 events this year like that..
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: KTM47 on March 18, 2014, 04:58:16 pm
So how much was the entry fee last year for your club days?  Don't include licence extra include MV rider levy.

Then how much is your entry fee this year.

Everyone can work out how much cheaper it might be.  Of course if a rider then chooses to rider at other clubs it will be dearer again.

As everyone should know there is two different groups in Road Racing and similar to when Cricket and Rugby League was split it is working real well  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  All that you will do is split the sport.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Andrew L on March 18, 2014, 05:13:01 pm
Last season if you had a yearly license the entry fee payable on the day was $55.00 for the first couple of rounds then raised to 65.00 for the remainder of the season which i thought was reasonable.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: KTM47 on March 18, 2014, 05:31:35 pm
So why is it $90.00 this year an increase of $25.00.  Someone's not giving everyone all the facts.

I thought the name of this thread is CHEAPER ENTRY FEES.  How is $90.00 cheaper than $65.00.

An entry fee is what you pay to race.  The cost of licencing should be considered separate.  Some riders choose to pay for an annual licence and others pay for each meeting (one meeting licence).  If you participate in enough meetings and other things like practice or Classic Dirt or Broadford BB a yearly licence is cheaper and or more convenient.
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Spanish Armada on March 19, 2014, 07:41:10 pm
Couldnt agree with you more how can that be cheaper especially when i would think some csc members including petard would ride other events like vinduro which by whats said on here u have to still hold an MA licence to ride in veri vinduro or have we all got it wrong  ::) ::)
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: Viper666 on April 28, 2014, 12:00:49 pm

As the now president of the Ballarat Rovers MCC I have been looking to go down this track for our clubbies, practice, etc. but stay affiliated so our members can get MA/MV licences still. Only getting our track inspected for MA/MV events on a need to basis. (As other clubs are already doing)

So as previously asked why has the "Entry" gone up?

As KTM47 said
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Don't include licence extra include MV rider levy.

Then how much is your entry fee this year.

Everyone can work out how much cheaper it might be.  Of course if a rider then chooses to rider at other clubs it will be dearer again.

Are their permits dearer and this is how they keep licence costs down? Do they have one day licences?

Thanks Perko
 
Title: Re: CHEAPER ENTRY FEES
Post by: FourstrokeForever on April 29, 2014, 12:52:32 pm
Should be a Politician   :o  ;D

+1

should get a dictionary ???

+1