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Clubroom => Introductions => Topic started by: Maico-Mac on January 21, 2014, 07:52:22 am
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Hello all :)
I'm from Germany and live near Duesseldorf/Cologne.
My favorite bikes are the pre 1975 bikes from Maico, Husqvarna, Jawa, CZ etc. and I like the older 4 strokes aswell!
For myself I rebuild and ride Maicos of the 50's to 70’s (GS, MX and oldtimer/street bikes).
My first dirtbike was a Maico M250B (military version of the Blizzard), which I found in the neighbourhood. That was 1985 and it was also my first rebuilt.
(http://up.picr.de/17115093sm.jpg)
I rode this 22 years old bike for 3 years and then I interchanged it for an 1967 Maico GS250.
(http://up.picr.de/17115095it.jpg)
That was the point the Maico-Virus catches me and several typs of Maico and other brands followed.
Here are some of my projekts:
Maico GS 1962 and 1970
(http://up.picr.de/17115096gq.jpg)
WaBeHa Maico 360 1963
(http://up.picr.de/17115098sh.jpg)
I also have 2 Husqvarna projekt bikes, 1x CR400 8-Speed of 1969 and 1x CR360 of 1968 and I love them ! ;D
So I hope I'll have some nice conversation and discussions about vintage dirtbikes here :D !!
Best regards
Marcus
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Willkommen Marcus. There are a few old Maico members here, I've got two 1970 350 square barrel, one I've had since new, a 1964 oval barrel 360 that will be fitted to a Metisse frame and a rare 250 Motoball Special/KR 250.
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Cool collection of bikes you have there Fritz, even cooler that you ride them on the road. VMX Magazine has had some cool Maico's and other versions in the last 2 editions, Krammer's etc.....if you haven't seen it you can look it up online. 8)
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Hey Marcus, you wouldn't have a spare tank like the one in the bottom photo sitting on the bare frame that you'd be willing to sell? I need one for my KR which currently has a Ducati Bronco tank fitted. Also, what exactly is a WaBeHa.....is it an aftermarket frame made by Fritz Betzelbacher? I've heard of them but never seen one. If it is I want one ;D.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/15497895-27240-large.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/firko2/media/15497895-27240-large.jpg.html)
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Welcome Marcus, great first post, you have made a nice addition to this forum already ;) Very nice collection.
I am a Maico nut too. I intend to spend my semi-retirement restoring them.
I have been buying old German Magazines and books to educate myself and other viewers and scrutineers about chronological Maico Model birthing events.
You have basically summed up in your first post what has taken me years to learn and prove,
and provided pictures of such models and missing links for masses. A genuine Thank You 8)
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Welcome from new Zealand
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Gruß
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welcome marcus
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Gruß
That's a bit rude Lozza :)
what does Gruss mean?
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Gruß
down right disrespectfull lozza
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Willkommen Marcus. There are a few old Maico members here, I've got two 1970 350 square barrel, one I've had since new, a 1964 oval barrel 360 that will be fitted to a Metisse frame and a rare 250 Motoball Special/KR 250.
@ All: Danke für das herzliche Willkommen :) ! Thanks for the friendly welcome !
@Firko, Mick D .. :
I'm happy to see that there are other nuts out there with the same illness ;D
I have seen this post here: http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=27949.0 , and I think I can give some tipps about frame versions, tanks, forks, engines (typs of transmission for example), etc...
Therefore i'll make some posts in Mick's thread (MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project) or what do you mean ..?
Here is my 1964 MC250 Cinemascope, finished in 2013.
(http://up.picr.de/17118732po.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17118734ek.jpg)
Sourcing parts for it take a long time and it was unfinished until Dezember 2012. That was the time the NSU-Museeum called for it for : http://www.zweirad-museum.de/sonderausstellung/2013-maico-moto-cross.html
So i was forced to hurry up a little ;) and it was ready for pickup in march 2013...
(http://up.picr.de/17118730jk.jpg)
I'll get it back in Februar an will do the first ride on it then ;D
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Awsome, so glad you are aboard Marcus 8)
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...........a 1964 oval barrel 360 that will be fitted to a Metisse frame........
I've seen you are looking for an oval barrel with center exhaust port for this projekt ?!
The Metisse you have seen with such a part is from Germany too and I know it, because I saw it as projekt bike an in the progress....
Note: The cylinder is a modified squarebarrel. They have cut the fins to the oval look ....
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Hey Marcus, you wouldn't have a spare tank like the one in the bottom photo sitting on the bare frame that you'd be willing to sell? I need one for my KR which currently has a Ducati Bronco tank fitted. Also, what exactly is a WaBeHa.....is it an aftermarket frame made by Fritz Betzelbacher? I've heard of them but never seen one. If it is I want one ;D.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/15497895-27240-large.jpg) (http://s1112.photobucket.com/user/firko2/media/15497895-27240-large.jpg.html)
The tank you are looking for is very very rare in Germany too :( !
I have just one for the WabeHa (alloy,aftermarket, handmade) and an other one on my MC 196? projekt, that i got in Dezember 2013 from Austria:
(http://up.picr.de/17119008iz.jpg)
But in the 60's they often use tanks from small 50ccm bikes as: Kreidler, Viktoria, Rixe, Rabeneick or else which fits very well:
(http://up.picr.de/17119118gs.jpg)
from ebay
(http://up.picr.de/17119119ze.jpg)
french forum
(http://up.picr.de/17119120ll.jpg)
Rain am Lech
(http://up.picr.de/17119121mq.jpg)
Rain am Lech
I have such kind of tank for sale if you are interested in:
(http://up.picr.de/17119150ht.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17119151zt.jpg)
Or if you need the big one, you have just to pay for packing and shipping ;)
(http://up.picr.de/17119152bw.jpg)
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Awsome, so glad you are aboard Marcus 8)
Thanks :D
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Hey Marcus, check this thread out please.
http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=29026.new#new (http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php?topic=29026.new#new)
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Gruß
down right disrespectfull lozza
Your a bit of a dill Paul , the funny B in German is a double s sound in English would be Gruss/Grusse which means Greetings which is how most of the people I know in Germany start written communications.
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I think Paul might have been having ein Witz Lozza.
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... how most of the people I know in Germany start written communications.
you're right Lozza, but it's used for ending written communications.
Gruß Frank 8)
PS: Moin Marcus, bald können wir hier ein ORF-Brett aufmachen.
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... how most of the people I know in Germany start written communications.
you're right Lozza, but it's used for ending written communications.
Gruß Frank 8)
PS: Moin Marcus, bald können wir hier ein ORF-Brett aufmachen.
Hi Frank,
reingeschaut habe ich hier schon öfters, aber jetzt wurde es mal Zeit für Senf ;)
Gruß
Marcus
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........ Also, what exactly is a WaBeHa.....is it an aftermarket frame made by Fritz Betzelbacher? I've heard of them but never seen one. If it is I want one ;D.
Yes, WaBeHa means Walz, Betzelbacher und Hauger. They have worked and raced for Maico until 1962/63 and have always used approved or selfmade frames.
After they created a 360ccm engine based on the 250ccm oval barrel, with a very light double tube frame, Otto Maisch was interested in their ideas for the Maico production ! But the department which makes the constructions was not amused about that and decided to make their own creation, the X3 was born 8).
So the three specialists decided to cancel the work for Maico and make their own business with dirt bikes, using engines from Montesa ........ to be continued
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I have such kind of tank for sale if you are interested in:
Hi Marcus, If you mean the gold tank I'll take it. PM me the price, shipping cost and how you like to be paid (paypal?).
Yes, WaBeHa means Walz, Betzelbacher und Hauger. They have worked and raced for Maico until 1962/63 and have always used approved or selfmade frames.
I too love "selfmade" frames. Do WeBeHa frames come up for sale very often? I'd be very interested in owning one. Do you have any pictures of the yellow Maico Metisse that you could post here? I'm very interested in some aspects of what he's done, even though I'm using a slightly different Metisse frame.
Gruß
down right disrespectfull lozza
Your a bit of a dill Paul , the funny B in German is a double s sound in English would be Gruss/Grusse which means Greetings which is how most of the people I know in Germany start written communications.
I think you missed the pisstake in Pauls post Loz...
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........ Also, what exactly is a WaBeHa.....is it an aftermarket frame made by Fritz Betzelbacher? I've heard of them but never seen one. If it is I want one ;D.
Yes, WaBeHa means Walz, Betzelbacher und Hauger. They have worked and raced for Maico until 1962/63 and have always used approved or selfmade frames.
After they created a 360ccm engine based on the 250ccm oval barrel, with a very light double tube frame, Otto Maisch was interested in their ideas for the Maico production ! But the department which makes the constructions was not amused about that and decided to make their own creation, the X3 was born 8).
So the three specialists decided to cancel the work for Maico and make their own business with dirt bikes, using engines from Montesa ........ to be continued
Great story.
Great Knowledge. ;D :)
Marcus, is this tank for sale? If so, I would like to buy it. How much?
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/17119152bw_zps62ce7673.jpg~original)
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Gruß
down right disrespectfull lozza
Your a bit of a dill Paul , the funny B in German is a double s sound in English would be Gruss/Grusse which means Greetings which is how most of the people I know in Germany start written communications.
I new that :o I whatched hogans heroes
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Yeah, sure you did mate. Sure you did ;D ;D ;D
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I too love "selfmade" frames. Do WeBeHa frames come up for sale very often? I'd be very interested in owning one.
I have only seen 3 WaBeHa frames in my Live: 1x MotoCross changed into GS (Maico), 1x Montesa and mine!
Here you can see Otto Walz in the Austrian GP 1962, riding for Maico in the 500ccm class ! This Maico has a Ceriani fork and a frame build by Walz/Betzelbacher as "Worksrider" ;).
(http://up.picr.de/17128119nt.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17128120se.jpg)
(http://up.picr.de/17128121kn.jpg)
And that's the Bike they build in 1964, a real 500ccm 2 stroke gun, based on a PUCH engine ;D !
(http://up.picr.de/17128122hb.jpg)
And this is my frame, but for Maico engine, so i think it's from 1963 before Walz and friends breake mith Maico..
(http://up.picr.de/17128285hd.jpg)
Do you have any pictures of the yellow Maico Metisse that you could post here? I'm very interested in some aspects of what he's done, even though I'm using a slightly different Metisse frame.
Yes, i will post them later ;)
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Maico Mac your fine knowledge of the marque is probably being missed by other interested VMXers on this thread, could you please continue or start a new one in the Maico thread section? Cheers mate Tim754 :)
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Maico Mac your fine knowledge of the marque is probably being missed by other interested VMXers on this thread, could you please continue or start a new one in the Maico thread section? Cheers mate Tim754 :)
Ok :-X, i'll start some "Maico" threads ;)
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Thank you :D cheers :)
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hi markus und willkommen, are you really from düsseldorf? me too! die welt ist klein.
gruss michael
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hi markus und willkommen, are you really from düsseldorf? me too! die welt ist klein.
gruss michael
Hi Michael,
um genau zu sein aus Neuss. Wir hatten im rugginose Forum schon mal über eure Maico Trial und 501 geschnackt ;) Hab letztes Jahr meine 1962'er GS Replika fertig bekommen und hab noch 2 Cross Rahmen von 60 und 62 liegen ;D
Gruß
Marcus