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Title: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: crabman on December 28, 2013, 03:16:18 pm
Out of curiosity what is considered to be a large collection of one brand of motorcycle ?

I ask this with no real understanding as to what is considered a large collection of one bike brand

In anticipation would thirty two Honda's ( all restored bar 4 ) be considered size able ?
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: EML on December 28, 2013, 03:21:21 pm
some guys collect several of one brand, or several of one size/class, or a collection of a mix. Some wont select anything after a certain date or before a certain date.
I reckon 10 of anything is a good collection but others will say 3 of one make is too many.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say so each to their own.
Sounds like you have an obsession. :o ;D Good for you. ;D
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Slakewell on December 28, 2013, 04:27:45 pm
50 would say to me obsession
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Doc on December 28, 2013, 06:28:08 pm
Had 30 or more Suzuki dirt bikes at one time..not a large collection but  more than enough to ponder one's sanity ::)
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Iain Cameron on December 28, 2013, 08:50:13 pm
That's good I thought I was going to be classed as a compulsive only 23 Yamahas but the thing that's makes it cool is I own one Honda XR75 so Im not strange . Iain
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Slakewell on December 28, 2013, 09:01:52 pm
A woman once asked me how many bikes I had and I didn't know the answer. That's when I sold most of my bikes.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: VMX Andrew on December 28, 2013, 09:24:16 pm
Ive got 5 but they are all racers and when i mention anything about getting another
one my girlfriend tells me im plain crazy...
Bloody Women they just dont get it  ;D
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: TM BILL on December 28, 2013, 10:06:44 pm
Honda being the worlds largest M/C manufacturer must have produced thousands of models since they started building bikes , so i dont think 32 Hondas could be considered a large collection .

32 NSUs or 32 AJWs would be a large collection i suppose  :-\
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: matcho mick on December 28, 2013, 10:49:34 pm
geezas Bill,32 AJW's,i'd like to see them all in one place  ;), :P
ps we are talking Alfred/Albert John Wheaton products
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: DR500 on December 28, 2013, 10:57:18 pm
my wife thinks more than 1 is a problem. O well she'll get over it
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: FourstrokeForever on December 29, 2013, 09:27:19 am
A collection is all relative to the amount of space and money a man has. I did have all the 1984 CR Honda's at one stage, even the 60. At the time I had 28 bikes of various breeds. Most restored or good originals. It started to do my head in as I couldn't figure out how to find time to ride/start them all and keep them clean. Now I've narrowed the fleet down dramatically and am happy with a bike that represents every era from Pre70 to Pre85 and my "modern" 2003 Husaberg. And yes, I have a '74 XR75 and a CR/XR80 hybrid that live in the house. I think I might be able to ride and manage my collection now.....better to ride them than hide them  ;D
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Slakewell on December 29, 2013, 09:39:02 am
Ive seen some photo's of some guy with over 20 Vincents. But he had a part time guy caring for them.
One thing I have noticed with large VMX collections is the neglect of bikes. If you think you can actually look after 50 + bikes your in denial. Just do the math if your 50+ and have another 20 bikes waiting for restro you will die before it happens. Or you need to be very rich and pay for someone to do most of the work.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: shelpi on December 29, 2013, 10:32:10 am
Ive seen some photo's of some guy with over 20 Vincents. But he had a part time guy caring for them.
One thing I have noticed with large VMX collections is the neglect of bikes. If you think you can actually look after 50 + bikes your in denial. Just do the math if your 50+ and have another 20 bikes waiting for restro you will die before it happens. Or you need to be very rich and pay for someone to do most of the work.
No comment on the grounds of incrimination :o My mates wife asked once" how many of them go" I said "none any that go into my shed dont go" she said "but that bike you lent me worked" I said "yes but it wasn't in my shed was it and besides your husband maintained it"
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: firko on December 29, 2013, 11:14:28 am
Anthony Suttor has anything from 60-100 Bultacos in his shearing shed. I've been there a couple of times but never actually counted them but reckon it'd be closer to 100 than lower. I believe the farm's been sold or is for sale so unless Anthony's got another storage facility lined up, there might well be a whole lot of Bully's hitting the market in the near future.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: bishboy on December 29, 2013, 11:38:27 am
my one whole bike and two part bikes are considered way too much by the wife, but then I bought her a holiday and now its ok  ;D
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Nathan S on December 29, 2013, 12:01:44 pm
Ive seen some photo's of some guy with over 20 Vincents. But he had a part time guy caring for them.
One thing I have noticed with large VMX collections is the neglect of bikes. If you think you can actually look after 50 + bikes your in denial. Just do the math if your 50+ and have another 20 bikes waiting for restro you will die before it happens. Or you need to be very rich and pay for someone to do most of the work.

Spot on.

My bikes live under sheets in an enclosed shed in a dry climate, but they still require care and attention to maintain them, even if they don't get used.

My collection is about half the size it was (and all of the larger projects have been sold off), but there's still hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to get all of the bikes where I want them...

I love tinkering with bikes, and I particularly love bringing them back from the dead - but it's all too easy to bury yourself in them.

To answer the original question, I reckon that five or more actively used race bikes is a large collection.
Ten or more nice bikes that are shed queens/lightly used is a large collection.
But thirty shitbox "gunna" projects that sit in the shed untouched doesn't really count as a large collection...




Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: albrid-3 on December 29, 2013, 12:32:51 pm
I know a fellow in warrnambool who owns  500 bikes all european.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Rookie#1 on December 29, 2013, 01:49:22 pm
I know a fellow in warrnambool who owns  500 bikes all european.

Let the pm's fly  ;D ;)
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: firko on December 29, 2013, 01:55:57 pm
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I know a fellow in warrnambool who owns  500 bikes all european.
That's a bizarrely silly money pit unless he is independently wealthy, owns a museum and has a staff to restore and maintain them, otherwise it's a private wrecking yard with no customers.

In the past I've owned 12 going Maicos at the one time, all restored or at least in race condition but I got a bit bored with the one brand fixation. I've now got two running Maicos and three project Maicos soon for resto...all very rare models. Like Nathan, I love to tinker with old bikes, and now that I'm a long way past any serious racing, the resurrection (or creation) of old bikes is my hobby. I love building one off hot rod and/or aftermarket framed bikes which sees me now accumulating a collection of aftermarket frames and parts to eventually build into complete bikes as I get the urge. I once built about three bikes a year but I've slowed down a lot since I got sick and they now take as long as they take. I have no set plans to own any particular number or type of bikes, I just keep what I'm comfortable with and pass on those I've either lost interest in or don't fit into my scheme. I've recently sold three bikes and a couple of frames and more will move out in the near future. If I do have a 'plan' it's to have three or four dirt trackers that I can still potentially ride and two or three motocrossers on a rough sort of rotation....as one gets built, another gets sold. That's the plan anyway ::).
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: matcho mick on December 29, 2013, 03:39:16 pm
I know a fellow in warrnambool who owns  500 bikes all european.

just a (staino) pipe dream dave  ;), :P
ps love his scooters
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: bazza on December 29, 2013, 04:06:55 pm
Dave - Bultacos?
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: g465b on December 29, 2013, 06:51:02 pm
350 restored or NOS or as new mxers,apparently the whole lot recently changed hands.

[imghttp://(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a561/gbankier/bb83f08f40d2c3430c9a85eb40458c47_zpsda629972.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/gbankier/media/bb83f08f40d2c3430c9a85eb40458c47_zpsda629972.jpg.html)](http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a561/gbankier/bb83f08f40d2c3430c9a85eb40458c47_zpsda629972.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/gbankier/media/bb83f08f40d2c3430c9a85eb40458c47_zpsda629972.jpg.html)(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a561/gbankier/19130_carprimm_mx_legrand_02_zpsc88d8179.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/gbankier/media/19130_carprimm_mx_legrand_02_zpsc88d8179.jpg.html)[/img]
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: ty4 on December 29, 2013, 07:25:01 pm
now thats just showing off  :o
imagine trying to keep that lot clean
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: smed on December 29, 2013, 07:33:46 pm
The Primm collection?
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Iain Cameron on December 29, 2013, 07:39:03 pm
Now that is my idea of heaven . true dirt bike porn . Iain
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Ktm181 on December 29, 2013, 07:50:19 pm


now that lot would drive me insane, too many, you'd have to be seriously RICH to even contemplate that lot!  Imagine insuring them for starters, the amount of sleep you'd loose over possible theft, the agitation over the fact you'd NEVER have time to ride and for sure not ride any of those, any more than a half dozen of one type is the limit I reckon, 6 of one brand, then if you have more than one lot of six you are a collector for sure...OF DUST!

kT
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Slakewell on December 29, 2013, 07:59:15 pm
Well if you can afford one these to clean your bikes well the Sky is the limit

(http://www.pinkqueen.com/pinkqueen1/Maid-Costumes/PQ8205_1.jpg)

Yes we all want one.

Its a bit different that bashing 30 odd old bikes into some old shed thou.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: g465b on December 29, 2013, 08:06:00 pm
it is the" primm mx collection ",google it-lots of pics and details. money=madness?
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: smed on December 29, 2013, 08:18:17 pm
It's a better investment than this,at least they wont die on ya ;),5 mill down the gurgler   http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/black-caviars-halfbrother-jimmy-dies-20131229-301h6.html
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: Iain Cameron on December 29, 2013, 08:54:12 pm
And a bit down on power with only 1hp , lot of money for a dud .
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: albrid-3 on December 29, 2013, 09:17:24 pm
Dave - Bultacos?
Some bultaco, Montesa, Maico etc they hang in threes out from the wall, you have too literary walk on each seat to get to the bike you wish  to look at. its amazing.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: shelpi on December 30, 2013, 11:22:41 am
Ive seen some photo's of some guy with over 20 Vincents. But he had a part time guy caring for them.
One thing I have noticed with large VMX collections is the neglect of bikes. If you think you can actually look after 50 + bikes your in denial. Just do the math if your 50+ and have another 20 bikes waiting for restro you will die before it happens. Or you need to be very rich and pay for someone to do most of the work.

Spot on.

My bikes live under sheets in an enclosed shed in a dry climate, but they still require care and attention to maintain them, even if they don't get used.

My collection is about half the size it was (and all of the larger projects have been sold off), but there's still hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars to get all of the bikes where I want them...

I love tinkering with bikes, and I particularly love bringing them back from the dead - but it's all too easy to bury yourself in them.

To answer the original question, I reckon that five or more actively used race bikes is a large collection.
Ten or more nice bikes that are shed queens/lightly used is a large collection.
But thirty shitbox "gunna" projects that sit in the shed untouched doesn't really count as a large collection...
SAME love rebirthing, me mates think Im a nut job on what they think is a dead rusted piece shite and bring them back from scrap to top of the pack, I agree with you Nathan but now Im in 3 catagories ... ouch the thirty shitbox "gunna" hurt, the truth hurts :( maybe I should have a shelpi needs to get his shit together and wake upto himself sale ???
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: g465b on December 30, 2013, 01:24:26 pm
having a pile of shitboxes can be a good thing,its about usefulness and space.   i have one tidy yam DT2 and 5  spare average ones,they owe me f'all,got room to store them and a lifetime of cheap parts. about half my 50 odd bikes fall into the spares catagory,a yamaha I
bought new over 30 yrs ago(never sell it) has 3 complete spares bikes next to it-its comforting to have 3 spare everythings.
safe and happy 2014 to all            g.
 
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: shelpi on December 30, 2013, 03:57:23 pm
having a pile of shitboxes can be a good thing,its about usefulness and space.   i have one tidy yam DT2 and 5  spare average ones,they owe me f'all,got room to store them and a lifetime of cheap parts. about half my 50 odd bikes fall into the spares catagory,a yamaha I
bought new over 30 yrs ago(never sell it) has 3 complete spares bikes next to it-its comforting to have 3 spare everythings.
safe and happy 2014 to all            g.

phew thanks Nah who am I kidding IV'E still got a problem
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: EML on December 31, 2013, 12:11:35 pm
phew thanks Nah who am I kidding IV'E still got a problem

I knew that the minute I met you. Bahahaha
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: shelpi on December 31, 2013, 12:19:58 pm
phew thanks Nah who am I kidding IV'E still got a problem

I knew that the minute I met you. Bahahaha
Yer like it doesnt stand out :o  LOL
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: firko on December 31, 2013, 10:38:17 pm
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it is the" primm mx collection ",google it-lots of pics and details. money=madness
Just looking at the photos there seems to be a lot of the 'same old same old' in the Primm Collection in Vegas. It only lasted a year or so..to survive in Las Vegas as a tourist attraction I reckon you need more than row after row of fairly ordinary 'bread and butter' bikes to attract punters and expect them to return. The Tom White Collection and Dan Rouitt flat track collection have more variety and less plastic. I was told by a Las Vegas resident racer that the Primm Collection kept Vintage Iron afloat while Rick assembled and restored the bikes.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: albrid-3 on December 31, 2013, 10:57:15 pm
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/545172_125459287594902_334336862_n.jpg) (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/albrid3/media/545172_125459287594902_334336862_n.jpg.html)
Check this little lot out.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: TM BILL on January 02, 2014, 07:24:14 am
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad275/albrid3/545172_125459287594902_334336862_n.jpg) (http://s943.photobucket.com/user/albrid3/media/545172_125459287594902_334336862_n.jpg.html)
Check this little lot out.

Thats cool Dave  8) a real collection in a real shed  :) all that patina and the place ozzees history . I so prefer to have a walk around a shed like that for a look than a look around one of those previous photos of clinicly clean over restored run of the mill bikes .

That looks like a racers shed , a bloke who knows how to turn the throttle rather than someone who cant ride for shit over compensating with a shed full of polished queens  ;D
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: firko on January 02, 2014, 07:53:13 am
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someone who cant ride for shit over compensating with a shed full of polished queens  ;D
Hey wait a minute.....that's me you're talking about :o.
Title: Re: What is considered to be a large collection of 1 brand of motorcycle?
Post by: TM BILL on January 02, 2014, 08:43:36 am
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someone who cant ride for shit over compensating with a shed full of polished queens  ;D
Hey wait a minute.....that's me you're talking about :o.
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 ;D ;D Mark you know you have a shed full of what i consider 2 wheeled gold , all your bikes are the real deal and i dont know of anyone who has probably slipped more bikes under more guest riders ( including me  ;D ) at more events than you  :)

Its those clinical