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Marketplace => eBay Finds => Topic started by: Ktm181 on October 26, 2013, 07:37:15 pm
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-Other-YAMAHA-HL500-1978-VINTAGE-MOTOCROSS-ABERG-TT500-/380751980558?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item58a696280e&vxp=mtr
weapon!
Kt
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This HL and the 490 Maico also for sale are part of Dave Coupe's awesome collection.. From what I've seen his bikes are immaculate
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This HL and the 490 Maico also for sale are part of Dave Coupe's awesome collection.. From what I've seen his bikes are immaculate
there's that name again, Dave Coupe....i will google him, name rings bells in my tired brain! HL reps are nice. I was amazed at a bloke on a STANDARD framed Yam 500 at MrVMX last year, he was F.A.S.T. on it too, begs the question, do you really need the HL rep frame to go quick???
Kt
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There was a video online a while back of a tour of his workshop and cool bike collection.
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There was a video online a while back of a tour of his workshop and cool bike collection.
just watched that Johnny, bloody hell, i thought my shed was ok ......i have to move house now, AND HE WORKS AS A SALES REP????? WHAT THE!?!?
kT
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There was a video online a while back of a tour of his workshop and cool bike collection.
just watched that Johnny, bloody hell, i thought my shed was ok ......i have to move house now, AND HE WORKS AS A SALES REP????? WHAT THE!?!?
kT
I know unbelievable isn't it! He must be the best paid rep in the world!
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Sales Rep Job has been good to me for the last 23 years, after i did my trade I became a rep and have not looked back apart from a 5 year stint back in my trade contacting. I think its the people you can get associate with and learn from as a rep, also its a reasonably flexible job which can give you opportunities that other fixed place jobs are sometimes restrictive with.
Brett
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Dave's bikes are amazing. I sold him my '76 KTM MC-5 a few years back and I can't wait to see what it looks like now. The bike belonged to a friend of mine and he was just never going to finish it (It is indeed a GMC frame.) Dave got it from him and look at the results!
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Another stunning bike.
This chap does magnificent work!
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Wow! It went to $13.7K. Damn that bad economy. ;)
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Another stunning bike.
This chap does magnificent work!
Yes I agree he does do magnificent work. Has everyone seen the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sIfiorMCng (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sIfiorMCng) while he is just a sales rep. He works for Parts Unlimited so would have a lot of industry contacts. I'm sure he's no longer just a sales rep.
I'm jealous, not just because he has been able to do all this but because I'm not motivated enough to do something similar. His reputation is so good people ring him up to take bikes away that they don't want (for free). Imagine being invited to a BBQ at his place.
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if we are in fantasy mode, I am imagining that his place is my place! But I would settle for the BBQ option.
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Works for Parts Unlimited or owns it!!?
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It's back on again......... :o
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Yes and guess what.....not listed at a price it is for sale at ::). Why do people do this....don't they want to sell the thing? Wastes bidders time IMHO. Listing this at $9 starting price with a reserve when it finished the last auction at $13k is just ridiculous. I don't understand........ :-\ :-\
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mmmm. That doesnt look good.
Look at the bidding history for the 1st sale. Mainly 2 bidders (him or mates?) slowly upping the price.
If you wanted that bike you'd use a snipper (I would anyway) and in the last few seconds it would bid and hopefully win. If you were serious I think you'd do that also. It didnt happen.
If the 1st buyer didnt complete, offer it to the second one...? You have to go to less than half the price to find anyone else bidding.
When you go down the list other bidders (genuine ones one asumes) slow up at about $6000.
Doesnt look good on him or the bike. (that's how I see it anyway ~ I dont know him and I am sure is a wondeful chap, I am just saying it doesnt look quite right....)
Wonderful bike collection no question.
That HL would look great in my front room!
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I would have thought 13K was good for that?
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I dont get what you blokes are inferring, so the "winner" pulls out of sale, you wouldnt put it back on? This guy by all reports, by some reports on here AND some digging i did myself in relation to a Maico he had selling (and NO i didnt win it) seems more than legit, surely you would extend him the benefit of any doubt??????
Me, i'd put it up again after having messaged the next higher bidder and they didnt want it, its not called an auction for no reason.....cheesh.....
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I know Dave (good guy), but you would have thought $13K would have done it.
I assumed a fishing expedition with a very high reserve just to hold the value up on HL's (he has two). Let's see what happens this time. It looks like 5 or 6 people are bidding now.
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13.7 is a strong dollar on the bike in my humble opinion. Fishy maybe....sure doesn't look good either way IMHO.....more power to him....I couldn't buy it on my best day so..
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The GT Ford Falcon guy's here do the same thing, they push the prices up between themselves to over inflate the value of there cars.
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well i better get ready to bid on "his" 490 again then, yee hah! Nicest i have seen.
Kt
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The second auction ended at $7.55k with reserve not met. First auction ended at $13k with reserve not met. Clearly first auction bidders didn't get as keen the second time around. Wonder why?
Put a price on it and I am sure he would be able to find a buyer.
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Dodgy bidders I reckon.....13k is plenty in the old U.S.A for a replica.
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The second auction ended at $7.55k with reserve not met. First auction ended at $13k with reserve not met. Clearly first auction bidders didn't get as keen the second time around. Wonder why?
Put a price on it and I am sure he would be able to find a buyer.
They never reach the same amount second time around, I've watched many bikes auctioned for the second and third time and the first is always the highest.. I guess people lose interest when they miss out the first time.
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Probably a little fishing expedition. ;)
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Dodgy bidders I reckon.....13k is plenty in the old U.S.A for a replica.
I think you're right Davey, or I must be missing something here. This bike has a readily available replica frame and swingarm, standard (albeit rebuilt) Yamaha motor, Yamaha forks. The Ohlins would be pricey, admittedly, but I'm pretty sure that just about anybody could build this bike for well under 13K, or have I spent too much time building bikes out of old leftovers that's put me right out of touch?
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The sum of the parts will be cheaper than the going price but it depends what price you put on your labour.
I have had a few calls over the years from people wanting to buy complete ‘turnkey’ bikes but I don’t have the time to build them although if I did I’m sure I would get bagged for trying to charge for my labour.
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I think he is outer touch Yamaico, a replica of a HL500 is never going to be worth more than a YZ360A and I would have thought a 490 Maico. Stuff in America is always way cheaper than here and you would never get 13k for one here....I think that price is probably what a genuine HL is worth.
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$7.5K usd He should be sending the guy an email right now. ;)
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Nice but you could make the same for less.A bike or car is only worth what some one will pay for it not what it owes you.
His highest bid should tell him he is miles away from the market
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If the guy who makes the frames was half smart he would buy it just to push the value of them up like the dodgy GT Falcon owners did.... ;D
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The HL isn't worth the 13+k and I'm sure the fisherman seller knows that. For what I've seen of the market for high end bikes it's a 8-9k bike but even then it'd have to be a killer race and show bike. Despite the still bad economy, the market for the exotic and collector bikes is maintaining and in some cases improving while the more common models go down in price. For some reason the market for quality pre 65 bikes such as Matchless Metisse, Cheney 650 Triumph and BSA B44GPs is rising. The same is happening with CCM's, C&J XR Hondas and the rarities like YZ360 A/B. Considering only 35 were made, the 350 Maico should be up with them as well. The real bargains right now are on the dirt track side of the fence but it won't be like that forever. Good open class aftermarket framed Yamaha's, Triumphs and the like can be had for $5k and up and I've occasionally seen XR750 Harleys for $12-15k. If you're cashed up and have a hankering for an 'investment' bike, now's the time to buy.
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I think he is outer touch Yamaico, a replica of a HL500 is never going to be worth more than a YZ360A and I would have thought a 490 Maico. Stuff in America is always way cheaper than here and you would never get 13k for one here....I think that price is probably what a genuine HL is worth.
How much was the one that VMX built back a few years ago? Be interesting to compare. I know what mine cost but it depends on how elaborate you want to go. I went elaborate. I'd expect you'd find a wide variety of prices depending on suspension, engine modifications not to mention the very reasonable price to purchase the necessary bits from Geoff (GMC). I have seen some very nice XT frame replicas that have definitely been built to a budget so it can be done there is no doubt.
Labour doesn't really come into it when you sell stuff on ebay but looking at some of the "exotic" HL replicas over the years I'd be surprised if there were much change out of $10k in some of them. Just take the wheels, Ohlins, engine kit and frame/swingarm and you are looking at $8k I would have thought.
Maybe I am out of touch but I'd be interested in some of the contributors putting together a budget for a GMC replica with all the right kit and posting it.
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I reckon to build a good one, you'd sink 10 to 15k into one...the funny thing is for the amount of those bikes being built you never see them on the track or at least not very often.
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When I bought my real one in 1979 I paid twice as much as I could have bought a new TT500
While I don't think that it is worth twice what a WR450 is now it is certainly worth at least one.
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SON,
That's a good way to look at it. Fully rebuilt/restored and "like new", with a limited supply for sale vs. one or two in every Yamaha dealership. Are they both worth $9K? I know one will lose $2K value as soon as it leaves the dealership, in the back of your truck.
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