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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: LWC82PE on August 19, 2007, 10:29:25 am
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found this http://www.classicdirtbike.co.uk/ looked interesting so ive back ordered the 4 issues ive missed. havent seen it in newsagents here though.
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its in the newsagents in melb started at issue 3 i think
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I hope you're keen on trials bikes........ :(
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i've just finished reading issue 3.
good quality stuff me reckons with a british twist.
i'm in for more as it seems to be more of what i like.
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I just got my subscription delivery of issue #4 of Classic Dirt Bike. Like 414 says, I hope you like trials. It's got a tad too much trials of it for my liking. It's a nice magazine but VMX is streets ahead in content, journalism, photography and production quality. VMX has no worries about losing its share of of the market, so it's nice to have another magazine covering our sport.
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I hope you're keen on trials bikes........ :(
Suits me!! ;D
I think it has a good spread of MX and Trial. I think they need to keep to the twinshock period bikes, and leave EVO bikes out for another publication.
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Yeah. Well. I just can't get my head around places with names like "Tweebleberesford" and "Farnleighbarnly". Pubs called "The arse and elbow" and bikes with the fenders an inch from the front wheel. Like reading Harry Potter............ ???
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I think its good to have another mag to read and the different articles in CDB means that its not a copy. I enjoyed reading about Dave Thorpe, Neil Hudson and Graham Noyce. Yeah maybe a bit to much 'trials bike' in the mag, but that could be just the british for ya. I like Twinshock and Evo, but if someone else wanted to do a mag with just Twinshock or just Evo I would buy either and/or both.
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I got my copy of CDB today and I too have to add that VMX doesn't have anything to worry about. I don't mind a trials article or two but five trials articles is upsetting the balance. The photos are also very weird. Many readers use the photos as reference for their restos but the CDB layout bloke seens to use shots taken from weird and difficult angles that miss a lot of details. The photos alsoften break the cardinal rule of dirt bike photography of having busy backgrounds that distract from the subject. The articles are scant of details, especially the article on the nice B44. I'm anal enough to want to know all of the little details that go into making a hot rod bike like that. On the positive, the Dave Thorpe story is great and fits beautifully in with the articles on Neil Hudson and Graeme Noyce in earlier editions. I'd like to see some earlier bios though. They've locked themselves into the 80's era riders but an article on 70's riders Vic Eastwood, Bryan Wade, Andy Robertson or Jimmy Aird would level up the balance. All in all, the production quality doesn't hold a candle to the product put out by Jeff, Smithy and AJ but it's not too bad a read in the end. Another mag isn't going to hurt our sport.
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I'm not sure where some of you guys are going with the thinking that the 'VMX' mag should worry?? Worry about what? The competition? Dont ya only need to worry about competition if you] arent up to stand? Instead of poking shit at CDB, shouldnt WE]as lovers of old dirtbikes be praising them for giving us another mag to read? As for there pictures the only one I found confusing is the upside down picture of the tailpipe in the YZ125A article. Where in the title does it say 'motocross'? All I see is 'Classic Dirtbikes'. If you dont like the mag dont buy it. Who is more the fool, the person who pays for the mag and likes it,or the person who buys it and rubbishes it?
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Oh I don't know, I think the guys are just offering up an honest appraisal. I have to admit I was a little disappointed in what CDB covered, and the Pommie 'take' is not my cup of tea either. But I take your point, it is good to have another mag covering the scene and it sure nice to have diversity. Of course, we aren't their primary market so I guess what's important for them is how the European punters feel about it. Judging by their letters to the editor that's a thumbs up. I do have to give them a bit of praise too for a nice website, they've put a fair bit into that and I like it.
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Way down under here in NZ, I would think that we would be just a tiny blip on the radar for CDB :-[ so the way I look at there mag is, thats what they're into. It may not be what I wanna read about but if there is just one article in it that I like then cool. Its abit like Motocross Action (august 2007), if a vintage motocrosser hasnt got that mag in his collection then he is missing a great mag. Me personnel, I didnt think CDB was in competition with VMX, as from there first issue it was a totally different mag to what we have been use too. I'm just waiting for the VMX crew to come over to NZ ta do a story on our vmx scene, then I would be totally biased for which mag I would put in a frame and hang on the wall. ;D
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You know, that's a fair point. I am not sure when VMX last ran an article about the NZ scene. Maybe someone over there needs to put one together for them? Or fly Ken over at huge expense and put him up in a lavish motel with a hostess to show him the sights?
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Is that brilliant Kiwi lass Sharon O'Neil available to show me around by any chance? Seriously, I've been trying to get over to NZ to cover some of the scene but something always gets in the way. But.....Issue 31 (out in a few weeks) has not one but two NZ events. Not a huge coverage of each event I have to say but it's a good start.
Regards
Ken
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We'll keep a lookout for ya Ken. But I thought Sharon O'Neal was over there? Looking forward to seeing some NZ vintage in the mag.
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Two different Mags with two seperate agendas . Different format different reporting styles but they are both about old dirt bikes..
Im sure we could all critique each Mag for whatever personal reasons,thats just life and our own Bias. I am not fussed on the to my eyes excessive amount of advertisment that has crept into VMX Mag but I do realise the publishing does come at a cost and someone needs to pay for it.
In the end its up to us to either put our hand in the pocket and pay for it if it suits our needs or not. If it dont suit leave it on the shelf .
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I LOVE the ads in VMX. I love the ink and the paper it drys on. I keep every bubble wrap cover that it arrives in and name them. There's Roger, Brad, Joel, Anthony, Gerrit, Pedro...........
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Great magazine got issue 4 yesterday, is it worth buying spares so i can retire when the price of back issues inflates Ala VMX.
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Well issue 4 has just turned up and there's some good stuff in it. Dave Thorpe, a bit on the RM c's, AJS Stormer, Farliegh Castle races, The year that was '77 and a shit load of trials bikes......
And by the way. I'm all for another magazine. Even if most of the people are riding bikes that are pushing to get over walking pace and wearing push-bike helmets...... :D
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yeah i dont mind. Another magazine for old dirt bikes is all i want and the parts sources may be usefull. think about how many modern MX and classic road bike mags there are, certainly more than one. it will give me some additional reading when waiting for the next issue of VMX to come out.
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I got the first 4 issues of this magazine a little while ago and i must say i was quite impressed and not dissapointed at all. I was expecting to be bombarded with trials stuff but i didnt feel that way. I did get the impression there was a decent amount of trials stuff but i never thought it was too much for me to no longer buy it. I did read in one of the letters and someone requested more trials stuff so i guess they put a little more in a couple issues. I dont think trials people will ever have to complain about not enough trials stuff in magazines ever again!!!!. I reckon after a few more issues they should get it balanced out pretty well. i would like to see more stuff on enduro/trail bikes in this magazine and VMX though. So far ive never seen anything decent on the 79-86 KDX's or 76-86 IT's in any magazine. so if that can be improved i think everyone should be happy, well almost. I guess there is vintage dirt track and speedway too. Over all im happy to have 2 magazines now covering old dirt bikes :)
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I've kept out of this discussion up untill now, but I guess you might be interested to know that I also like what Classic Dirt Bike are doing with their mag and I enjoy reading it when it arrives as well.
Yes, there is well and truly more than enough room in the Vintage Dirt Bike market for two magazines and this is especially true when you get the two quite different appraoches that are VMX and CDB.
Vive La Difference! ;D
Lastly, as I bleed Green when cut and rode only KDX's from 1987 through to 2004, I seriously doubt that KDXs will remain out of VMX for too much longer. ;)
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im trying to get a whole stack of pre 86 KDX sales brochures (some very rare) out of USA so when i do get them and you decide to run a article or 2 on KDX's i can lend them to you if you like.
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OK, great! I'm sure Ken would appreciate that. ;)