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Marketplace => eBay Finds => Topic started by: Dono113 on September 20, 2013, 12:21:35 pm
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yamaha-RZ500-1984-/200965691243?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item2eca7d176b#ht_459wt_1352
All there for a mean dirt tracker 8)
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Would be a crime to turn that into a flat track bike >:(
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Couldn't agree more Lozza.
The RZ500 is a pretty rare bike in the condition of the bike in the listing & is worth a pretty penny after the motor is fixed
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Nothing a crime when it's a Yamaha ;D
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Be interesting to see what it brings. Very rare yes, also can be very exspensive to rebuild, quite a complex motor, if its been sitting for a long period everything would need to be rebuilt...
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Would be a crime to turn that into a flat track bike >:(
Yep agree with that, well that's what TZ700/750 engines were for! 8) Thanks king Kenny ;)
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Try and buy a TZ700/750 engine though Tim.
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It'd make a shit flat tracker just like the TZ750's, Kawasaki triples and Suzuki water bottles were. A lot of pretty smart folks tried to get big 2 strokes to work on the dirt but in the end the humble Harley, XS750/0W72 Yamaha and Triumph/BSA/Norton four stroke twins were all vastly superior. The TZ750 only won at Indy because King Kenny was riding it. There were two other TZs and an Erv Kanemoto Kawasaki triple there that were so uncompetitive they didn't qualify for the main. It's be a shame to turn that RZ into a road racer too. Keep it as a stock curiosity from times when the Jap factories actually built some innovative road tackle.
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The RG 500 is much better engine it was the engine to use in the old Formula 500 days untill they let R6 motors in. The RZ engine is 65kg or so v's 45kgs for the RG.
Shityeah Walter, 120HP is a snack out of those engines these days. There are quite a few aftermarket parts being made for them, dry clutches, individual heads with inserts , YZR copy frames etc etc. Think even Gus in the US is doing another run of cranks (think that bloke has new Gus cranks already) give you a good opportunity to sort the suspension on those Walter :D
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It'd make a shit flat tracker just like the TZ750's, Kawasaki triples and Suzuki water bottles were. A lot of pretty smart folks tried to get big 2 strokes to work on the dirt but in the end the humble Harley, XS750/0W72 Yamaha and Triumph/BSA/Norton four stroke twins were all vastly superior. The TZ750 only won at Indy because King Kenny was riding it. There were two other TZs and an Erv Kanemoto Kawasaki triple there that were so uncompetitive they didn't qualify for the main. It's be a shame to turn that RZ into a road racer too. Keep it as a stock curiosity from times when the Jap factories actually built some innovative road tackle.
RZ500s were not good from brand new
RG500s were superior in every way
However if they are dragged into the 21st Century they are both brilliant, but the modernized RG is still better.
If you want a 2 stroke Flattracker or StreetTracker then the RD/RZ twin is the answer
Pete's old aircooled is an inspiration look it up
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I case you don't follow the tongue in cheek King Kenny references friends ;) watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8k8hJWKIVNs
34 for years later he wonders if he can still ride one..................... um yes :o
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Back in the day they ruled for half an hour until the GSXR 750 came out. They handled badly and were way to heavy and just a pain the arse to fix. Tiny inlets were the one problem that cant be fixed. Buy a TZ 500 motor and fit it to R6 600 wreck
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They are a very rare machine indeed. Very difficult to rebuild and handled poorly in my opinion. I'd stay away from it based simple on the rebuild costs alone but it's very cool....tempting , but the nightmares of rebuilds long ago on this model bring me back to reality. Complex design that sucked !
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SUZUKI RG400 bottom end out of Japan
Brand New RG500 barrels and pistons
Aprilia RS250 Chassis
Under $5,000 plus labour
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SUZUKI RG400 bottom end out of Japan
Brand New RG500 barrels and pistons
Aprilia RS250 Chassis
Under $5,000 plus labour
Cheap but you end up with nothing more than a half good bitsa. No historic significance and no future resale value. I can't believe anybody is seriously thinking about buying this bike and doing anything but restore it to original, warts and all. It doesn't matter that an RG may have been better. It was from an era when bikes were interesting and varied, and this bike deserves some respect. It has lasted this long not to be dismantled or used for some other purpose now.
Cheers, Grahame
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I can't believe anybody is seriously thinking about buying this bike and doing anything but restore it to original, warts and all.
Not everyone would agree
(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/262863/images/oz-blog-7-1.jpg)
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I can't believe anybody is seriously thinking about buying this bike and doing anything but restore it to original, warts and all.
Not everyone would agree
(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/262863/images/oz-blog-7-1.jpg)
Spoken like someone who hasn't had one and felt the hit
When a 500 4cyl 2stroke hits the sweet spot it's fun
Trust me on that
Lucky for me I was 20 years younger
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would make a good Pre85 MX outfit motor :o
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It was from an era when bikes were interesting and varied, and this bike deserves some respect. It has lasted this long not to be dismantled or used for some other purpose now.
I'm with you Graeme. It'd be too easy to strip it down and modify the living fluck out of it to turn the bike into a boy racer. What you'd most probably end up with after spending a shitload of money is an poor handling and unreliable money pit that's been changed so much to fit some backyard bozo's idea of a poor boy racer that it's barely recognisable as the classic road bike it derived from. 10 years down the track it'll be laying up the back of some dusty shed with all of the road going parts long ago discarded, an almost worthless monument to young Bozo's long forgotten GP dream, just a pile of parts ready for eBay recycling. If however it had been sympathetically restored as the road going rarity that the RZ500 indeed is, it'll be worth much, much more than the hacked up wannabe racer it's ended up as.
I'm the poster child for building hot rod bikes but I also recognise that some bikes deserve to be preserved. If the for sale RZ was a rotten, written off hulk that's been down the road a few times I'd say go for it but this bike's too good to hot rod and deserves to remain stock, warts and all.
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I rode one back in 84 and thought it was alright at the time, just kept it a gear higher than you would recon and it would pull threw grab the band and mono off, it was all good fun now that I think about it :) all the riding was done in the Adelaide hills so only got upto 190 clicks on average it was tight stuff with big lumps (hills)