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Marque Remarks => Kawasaki => Topic started by: Mick D on September 16, 2013, 07:17:36 pm

Title: Kawasaki KS/KE125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 16, 2013, 07:17:36 pm
I just bought one of these, but don't know the age of it?

It is the first early style of rotary induction engine.

Title: Re: Kawasaki KE125 Any Good ? Pre75 or Pre78 ?
Post by: Mick D on September 16, 2013, 07:25:40 pm
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/KGrHqUOKowFHkG0bFEbBSBigWY0s60_57_zps30ddb8d9.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Kawasaki KE125 Any Good ? Pre75 or Pre78 ?
Post by: oldyzman on September 16, 2013, 07:29:53 pm
I see a dirt tracker, cute bike but does it have the power?
Brett
Title: Re: Kawasaki KE125 Any Good ? Pre75 or Pre78 ?
Post by: Mick D on September 16, 2013, 07:53:44 pm
I see a dirt tracker, cute bike but does it have the power?
Brett
Gooday Brett, that sounds like a very good idea, since it was so dirt cheap 8)

I couldn't help myself, just scored three days work in the big smoke with a half empty work truck :)
so I did a quick search, and what do ya know, only bidder :)

My first experience of the two stroke rush;
  didn't happen on my mates Bantam :-\
 
It happened on my other mates Rotary Induction Kawasaki 120, "Bush Ranger" I think it was called?
Damm thing flew, like a Stabbed Rat as Mike52 would say :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Kawasaki KE125 Any Good ? Pre75 or Pre78 ?
Post by: Lozza on September 16, 2013, 08:09:56 pm
Bugger was looking for a sub 200cc bike to register. Looks KH125 based, so that can be made to put out some serious HP. In standard form you will be limited by a shit ignition, ditch that and worlds your oyster. Don't be afraid of switching pistons on them as standard KHI and aftermarket replacements will do this when everything else is sorted. For mx the frame geometery doesn't look the best, but who cares when you can out drag everyone. ;)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s297/Lozza85_2007/IMG_1095.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/Lozza85_2007/media/IMG_1095.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Kawasaki KE125 Any Good ? Pre75 or Pre78 ?
Post by: Rodpack on September 17, 2013, 12:48:03 pm
Lozza, I got a 1980 KE125 that'll go OK with a bit of work and has all the road legal stuff on it. And it's in Mayfield too! If you're interested let me know.
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 17, 2013, 06:20:15 pm
Lozza, I got a 1980 KE125 that'll go OK with a bit of work and has all the road legal stuff on it. And it's in Mayfield too! If you're interested let me know.
How good is that Lozza. Let me know if you don't want it ;D

Mine was picked up today. Apparently its a KS125 ?? build date on plate 4/74
it is so cool to have a little win for a change :)

I had three of those little elsies when I was a juvenile
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/1c64be18-eb9a-4714-8e8c-93caa189a74b_zps5e92f32d.jpg~original) but they are getting to expensive for me to buy now.

Anyhow as you say, on paper this little KS girl with it's six speed box and rotary disk induction
 should eat the elsies up for breakfast in a drag race :) He He he 8)
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 17, 2013, 06:45:53 pm
Here is a 74 KS125 tank for sale on US ebay
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/KGrHqVHJFQFIhlF0332BSMz5YUwPg60_57_zpsb6a14ccf.jpg~original)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-KS-125-Kawasaki-Fuel-Tank-Petcock-Cap-and-Rubber-Mounts-/300965164120?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4612ebf458&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-KS-125-Kawasaki-Fuel-Tank-Petcock-Cap-and-Rubber-Mounts-/300965164120?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4612ebf458&vxp=mtr)

Similar graphics as mine, just a different colour.
From what I can find so far, this style of graphics seems only to be for 74? I am thinking?

I am liking the look of the Green Machine theme heaps more than Mellow Yellow, that's for sure
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 17, 2013, 08:27:45 pm
Found a thread in the Aussie Vinduro Forum
http://www.vinduro.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=1161.0 (http://www.vinduro.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=1161.0)



(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/2012100103_motorparade_zps7fecaa2f.jpg~original)
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: farmer58za on September 17, 2013, 08:32:35 pm
1974 KS125 - that's right "in the zone"
I'm not sure what the gear ratios are but it's likely that a KX top end and rotary valve will bolt right on. Failing that, a good port job, cut valve and larger carb will get it cooking.
KS 125 forks share some common parts with the KX. Generally, parts are readily available. Some parts are still available from Kawasaki.

I have a "Dirt Bike" article on making the KX better....

Regards
David
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: 80-85 husky on September 17, 2013, 08:45:53 pm
32 degrees :D ;D made my nite!!!The shit that add men thought were important!
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Doc on September 17, 2013, 09:28:17 pm
I had (still have) the street version..on the long list of to do :P it did go exceptionally well :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/163210_10150107558860739_5202050_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 17, 2013, 09:50:14 pm
32 degrees :D ;D made my nite!!!The shit that add men thought were important!

Oddly when I read that John, I thought, they obviously didn't see the run ups we used to get first as kids ;D

Thanks for the tips David. I checked Ebay US and your right there is tons of stuff, including NOS, but might check the dealer first now.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=kawasaki+ks125+frame&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XKawasaki+KS125+&_nkw=Kawasaki+KS125+&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=kawasaki+ks125+frame&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XKawasaki+KS125+&_nkw=Kawasaki+KS125+&_sacat=0)

(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/163210_10150107558860739_5202050_n_zps17a5d39e.jpg~original)

That is one beautiful looking machine Doc, I hope you didn't drop it or stack it :'(
You posted it once before, I thought it had a different seat on it then?
It was staring at it that got me started down this path Doc. I have collected an early KH100 bottom end and a  set of 125 internals. I bought this bike for spares actually. But now I have found it to be a 74,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well as you can imagine, it is a pleasant surprise that changes my previous intentions   :)
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: g465b on September 17, 2013, 10:14:57 pm
hi, a dyno chart in an old mag for the 74 KS125 states 4.8hp@4000rpm   6.9@5000    9.8@6000 and peaks at 10.4@7500.
kawasaki, claimed 13@6500 ,may need some teeth to do some munching.    cheers g.
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 17, 2013, 10:24:35 pm
I have been waiting for it ;D
Yeap, be fitting some teeth first 8)

Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Lozza on September 17, 2013, 10:47:13 pm
hi, a dyno chart in an old mag for the 74 KS125 states 4.8hp@4000rpm   6.9@5000    9.8@6000 and peaks at 10.4@7500.
kawasaki, claimed 13@6500 ,may need some teeth to do some munching.    cheers g.

That's disc valve clydesdales not limp wristed cravat wearing reed valve/piston port shetland ponies  ;)

That was sort of what I had in mind Doc.
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Doc on September 18, 2013, 07:46:42 am
Mick..I still have kermit and it is still straight and complete but exhibiting much 'patina' from many years of sitting neglected. 
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: JC on September 18, 2013, 12:19:59 pm
Mick I think you'll find the KH100 bottom end is no use to you. The 100 & 125 Kaw engines are completely different.

I think I still have a spare KX125 cylinder in the shed if yr interested.
Title: Re: Kawasaki KS125 Pre75 ELSINORE MUNCHER
Post by: Mick D on September 18, 2013, 12:44:58 pm
Thanks for the heads up JC. I wish I knew that last night ;D
After what David said I bought a new KX head from Vic and a used KX Cylinder from US.
I will post pics and links tonight after work.

Still very interested though,,,did you have a figure in mind? PM possibly JC.
Cheers :)

PS got a smick 32mm Ceriani front end of a 175 74 Penton :)