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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: kdx 175 on June 18, 2013, 08:04:48 pm
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anyone nead any casting made for old bikes I am a moulder in a foundry and am sick of working for my boss thinking about trying to get my own foundry going for one off parts things you cant get anywere can make of original crank case let me know if any ones interested
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Sounds like a good idea to me ........location is QLD Gold coast ;)
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I know this guy on the Goldy who needs some legs cast he's a bit of a midget rides a KDX 175 ;D
Cheers
Nick
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The first person to make '84 Honda CR250 clutch covers in aluminium will be very popular...
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if you send me a old broken one as long as its in one pace even if its glued together no problem
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Shitloads send me a PM
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Me too PM sent
Lozza I will call you in the morning
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Make a batch of YZ360A clutch covers and you'll make the first months wages. They would sell all over the world. At a reasonable price I'd take 2.
Also any for those fancy heads that Firko has stashed away would be nice.
And Nathans right. Honda side covers out of Aluminium and there is your second months pay.
Peter B
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Very interesting. You need to build a portfolio demonstrating your workmanship.
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Making repro DG, WEBCO, NOGUCHI?? "Firko to correct" ;) style heads would surely be a winner for dollar spinning thats for sure! As far as i know though the DG's at least started out as length of extrusion and cut to size, then machined specifically for particular fitment??? Obviously making 1 by 1 would involve a helluva lot more work but even so it's still likely to be well worth the effort.
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As above can give you the same list as we went down the same path a while back with a top ten o sellers but never heard back from the guy who was the go between. Pm if you want talk
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Making repro DG, WEBCO, NOGUCHI?? "Firko to correct" ;) style heads would surely be a winner for dollar spinning thats for sure! As far as i know though the DG's at least started out as length of extrusion and cut to size, then machined specifically for particular fitment??? Obviously making 1 by 1 would involve a helluva lot more work but even so it's still likely to be well worth the effort.
lot off effort for 1 off,s ,so while you are at it I,ll have half a dozen maico 490 reed barrells ;D
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Making repro DG, WEBCO, NOGUCHI?? "Firko to correct" ;) style heads would surely be a winner for dollar spinning thats for sure! As far as i know though the DG's at least started out as length of extrusion and cut to size, then machined specifically for particular fitment??? Obviously making 1 by 1 would involve a helluva lot more work but even so it's still likely to be well worth the effort.
lot off effort for 1 off,s ,so while you are at it I,ll have half a dozen maico 490 reed barrells ;D
Are you gonna plant them in the ground and grow Maico's in Queensland?? :D ;)
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Making repro DG, WEBCO, NOGUCHI?? "Firko to correct" ;) style heads would surely be a winner for dollar spinning thats for sure! As far as i know though the DG's at least started out as length of extrusion and cut to size, then machined specifically for particular fitment??? Obviously making 1 by 1 would involve a helluva lot more work but even so it's still likely to be well worth the effort.
lot off effort for 1 off,s ,so while you are at it I,ll have half a dozen maico 490 reed barrells ;D
Are you gonna plant them in the ground and grow Maico's in Queensland?? :D ;)
they look like pineapples
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thanks for all god advise looks like im going try with it . but only out of my back yard. add in vmx mag sounds good but complex parts take lots of time don't know if people will pay the dollars only one way to find out thanks if you pm me and I didn't answer I got lost in all the pm s sorry ;D
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Russel has asked me to post this on his behalf .
Remember these are sand castings and will need machine work ......they are not a bolt on fit. ;)
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i180/mutchoo/S5000042_zpsb4beca5d.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/mutchoo/media/S5000042_zpsb4beca5d.jpg.html)
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my 1 st casting of 1984 Honda(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000048_zps7fd72d06.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000048_zps7fd72d06.jpg.html) cluch cover
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This makes me happy.
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impressive.....Husky water cooler clutch covers are probably a possibility for you. maybe flick a post up on café husky....HVA in England were getting them made but I believe he has sold out.
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I just cast these don't know if there ok yet in fitment will see tomorrow when I check for size
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Wow the Honda boys have gotta be happy with that..
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Outstanding. This really opens some possibilities.
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Nice work Russel .....
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:) My two cents would be.....Go for it ! , if you have the drive you only have one way to go !
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How do we order one of these casings? Can the next casting be the 85 CR 500 clutch cover.
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Awesome work KDX. Have you trial fitted one yet? Are they good to go? How do we go about getting one?
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at the moment they look good but don't fit good doing sum more trial it takes time then cut out all holes on mill then test on bike more time
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How do we order one of these casings? Can the next casting be the 85 CR 500 clutch cover.
if you proceed with above as mentioned by Odd1 i will take one too. i know you have to sort this one out first but just showing interest for more possibility's
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at the moment they look good but don't fit good doing sum more trial it takes time then cut out all holes on mill then test on bike more time
May I ask what the fitting problem is ? Too big or too small or other ? Is it rude to ask what sort of alloy is being used ?
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it 2 mm to big alloy cc601
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VB cans, or 4X for the northern Folks. LOL
Sincerely KDX, I can imagine trying to make one fit would be quite a task.
Brett
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it 2 mm to big alloy cc601
If 2mm too big means the outside dimensions are 2mm oversize, then I guess this is a miss.
Thanks for posting. Many of smaller Foundries in Dandenong have closed. Compliance cost became prohibitive.
:)
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Not a problem KDX.
Are you going to persevere? I'm sure you will get plenty of orders once they are good to go....
Have fun in the shed ;D
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keep the momentum going KDX, i am sure there us a good market for these once you get it right, its a very popular model.
just as a matter of interest, how many hours did it take to get to here?
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i will persevere IT WILL WORK I have gone this fare no turning back I get this one rite on to next one 1983 Honda clutch cover and thanks for input ppl
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Let us know when you have the RE cover ready to sell KDX.
Cheers
Mark
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Does that include pistons? please say that includes pistons ;)
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shelpi pistons for what??
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shelpi pistons for what??
me old T250 aah I mean the T350 piston and actually the GT550 use the same pistons, so is that a yes ;) please say yes 8)
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I recon if the casting is too big then the mould has been rapt to much. And if it is to small there is not enough contraction on the Pattern that you used (Honda Casting).
phd
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Please let me know when you have the covers for CR250RE ready for sale?
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I hope to test one at qmp end of this month and if ok race at Toowoomba on the 8 th
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Any thoughts of a waterpump housing/clutch cover for CR125RE/RF ?
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shelpi pistons for what??
me old T250 aah I mean the T350 piston and actually the GT550 use the same pistons, so is that a yes ;) please say yes 8)
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winner (http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000051_zpsbe331537.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000051_zpsbe331537.jpg.html)
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good work (and fast) have you run the bike yet?
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just run up street I take it out tomorrow see how it goes radiator got worm should be ok
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Looks really good, do you have any idea what they are going to be priced at ?
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about 350 $ plus post
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Stew poped down to TM bills in taupo with the boys about a meeting ,stopped on the way at a shed on a farm,makes his own cases and covers,developing Yz250 (new) fuel injection,has his 2T VMX bike injected.
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I take it thats a No on the pistons :P
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what piston shepi I got no idea what you want
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shelpi pistons for what??
me old T250 aah I mean the T350 piston and actually the GT550 use the same pistons, so is that a yes ;) please say yes 8)
ahh check the date this was posted :o you must of missed it, no worries Hey could you cast up the RM125,250 and 370B front sprocket chain gaurds?
Hey nice cover looks great 8)
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if you send me sum photos I see what I can do
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if you send me sum photos I see what I can do
of the pistons or the chain gaurd or both ??? ;) :D
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both I can cast pistons but It will be no good cast is not as good as forged pistons send photo please
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both I can cast pistons but It will be no good cast is not as good as forged pistons send photo please
;)cheers will do :D
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KDX
Can you do BSA C11 and 175 Bantam Cylinders? They only made them in cast iron.
Regards
David
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are thay 2 stroke or 4 between the fines must be smooth ass babies ass to get sand to slide out even then pain in ass job it would be but possible
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Stew poped down to TM bills in taupo with the boys about a meeting ,stopped on the way at a shed on a farm,makes his own cases and covers,developing Yz250 (new) fuel injection,has his 2T VMX bike injected.
Give Neil my regards and ask did the tight arse ever fork out for a decent pair of shocks?
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C11 - 4 stroke
Bantam - 2 stroke
Both would need work to make them smooth. They were sand cast originally.
Regards
David
are thay 2 stroke or 4 between the fines must be smooth ass babies ass to get sand to slide out even then pain in ass job it would be but possible
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I think you have found a market for your work KDX, I just picked up a 69 TS 250 and need to magnento cover would get two or three of off you as have spare motors. The one on the bike is a handmade brass one and adds 4 kilos to the bike :o, cant seem to find these covers OS.
Cheers
Dono
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How did the waterpump housing/clutch cover for the CR250RE perform after riding the bike?
What do you think will be the cost of reproducing the covers?
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im rideing the cr 250 at mp on my way up to Toowoomba this weekend see how to goes it's ok up and down my street until cops come cost 350$ there not rite yet more work to do but getting there
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The ole fun killers never stop KDX. I guess you'll have to make an extra cover now to make up for the $350 donation!
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clutch cover pump worked good temp never got over 67 c at echo valley guna make ten very soon
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FWIW had a look at the cover today at Toowoomba, looks sand cast like factory, and worked well, he had no dram's with temp or any other issues. I for one will be ordering one and at $350 bucks, you find one NOS, good luck!!
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FWIW had a look at the cover today at Toowoomba, looks sand cast like factory, and worked well, he had no dram's with temp or any other issues. I for one will be ordering one and at $350 bucks, you find one NOS, good luck!!
This is for the CR250RE? If so I'll take one of those 10 as well please.
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Put me down for one please.
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I let you guys no when I got sum to sell its a big job
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G'day KDX 175,
Nice to know that some one is skilled in this form of work as I think there should be a big enough market out there for you to make a real go of it.
My question is are you able to reproduce cases and covers in magnesium ?
Kind regards
Rob.
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I have cast magnesium but cant do it at home my shed is 4 m x 4m no room and it will kill all the birds uses to much sulphur in the proses maybe latter if I go full time im just starting this project sea how far it goes thanks for feed back im trying my goodest
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I have made 10 I have 9 clutch cover for 1984 cr 250 cnc man killed one I need sum one to buy one to tel me if there's any problems I have hade trouble needed weld on gear lever stoper cnc man again pm me your phone number I try get photo up
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(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000057_zps768ba553.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000057_zps768ba553.jpg.html)
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Wow !!! Top work im impressed, they are the most sought after item on all the watercooled Honda CRs.
You should be able to make a bit of money outa that lot.
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They look great
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pm sent
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365$ includeing post any were in au
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365$ includeing post any were in au
Bloody Bargain :o
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Looking good
I am impressed
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I personally viewed one of these a few weeks ago and they are of exceptional quality.
Russel has spent just over 3 months to get them to this stage, and now needs someone to give him some feed back by fitting a cover .
The guy is really talented as a sand cast moulder.
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That's a work of art. Well done on giving it a go.
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Excellent!!
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I personally viewed one of these a few weeks ago and they are of exceptional quality.
Russel has spent just over 3 months to get them to this stage, and now needs someone to give him some feed back by fitting a cover .
The guy is really talented as a sand cast moulder.
Nice guy as well :)
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put me down for one pm sent
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can any one get me sum photos of 1984 cr 125 clutch cover water pump housing area the one I got is so knackered I cant see were seal fits
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(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b525/TFR555/IMG-20131107-00268_zps6060b42d.jpg)
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thanks paul that's what I need
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is it the same seal as 1984 250 cr
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Nope nothing like it
It is like a normal seal ? Sort of anyway but not that mechanical seal like the 250.
Not on my bike anyway!
I can post a pic tonight.
It does however fit in the same way as the 250 seal so from you point it should be treated the same
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any one got interest in RM PE Suzuki sprocket covers I knocked this this morning (http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000058_zpscababbfe.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000058_zpscababbfe.jpg.html)(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000059_zps82960af4.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000059_zps82960af4.jpg.html)
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yep how much ;)
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im just finding out if its worth my time or not 50 $
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i am interested in CR500RF/RG and CR250RG clutch covers if you do them.
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its early days in this what years are 250 and 500 rg models
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I love your work, it's great to see someone getting off their ass and doing this :D
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its early days in this what years are 250 and 500 rg models
1986
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im trying my best but I under stand people don't know me and don't trust me to do the right thing when It comes to money only one person haze paul 552 or 225 testing clutch cover and hopefully gives me a goood report if not I better find my self a job at bunnings or masters miter 10 what ever ???
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Russel ...... put one on USA ebay . Better still put one on marks swap meet.
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Russel ...... put one on USA ebay . Better still put one on marks swap meet.
Your on a winner here mate, the 1984 CR250RE covers you have made will sell easy on EBAY.
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im trying my best but I under stand people don't know me and don't trust me to do the right thing when It comes to money only one person haze paul 552 or 225 testing clutch cover and hopefully gives me a goood report if not I better find my self a job at bunnings or masters miter 10 what ever ???
I am hoping to have it fitted this week.
It looks the goods!!!
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im still keen for the cr250 cover how do i get one
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THERE SHOULD BE A BIG DEMAND FOR THE 73-75 TM100/125 MAG Covers...same mag cover also fits a couple TS models..and the RM 125 M/S...just thinking..they are next to impossible to find and very easy to destroy cheers
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so there not water cooled why cant you get them ??
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THERE SHOULD BE A BIG DEMAND FOR THE 73-75 TM100/125 MAG Covers...same mag cover also fits a couple TS models..and the RM 125 M/S...just thinking..they are next to impossible to find and very easy to destroy cheers
Good call , there is definitely a market worldwide for those, i have a NOS one if you need a pattern :) They were magnesium and are not available ex Suzuki anymore .
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover001_zps638683cf.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover001_zps638683cf.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover002_zps12385509.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover002_zps12385509.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover003_zps1ceaf338.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover003_zps1ceaf338.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover004_zpsd6999346.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover004_zpsd6999346.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover005_zpsac50097d.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover005_zpsac50097d.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover006_zps7ed9e16d.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover006_zps7ed9e16d.jpg.html)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/TMmagcover007_zps180f350f.jpg) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/tmbill/media/TMmagcover007_zps180f350f.jpg.html)
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ok looks ok but how come they brake there only a cover
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I would assume they break when chain derails
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ok looks ok but how come they brake there only a cover
Because they're made of paper thin pissy magnesium that often breaks when you crash out or the chain comes off. I've never owned a TM125 but I broke a clutch cover on a mates TM125 back in the day and I had a hard time getting it welded. I eventually got it done by a mate at QANTAS but how many ended up getting bogged up or thrown in the garbage because they couldn't get them welded?
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I would assume they break when chain derails
nooooo it's from all the horse powahs in the TM trying to escape.
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I need a old one im not cutting up a nos one got lots of bog and glue
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There must be loads of old ones available over there :) i didn't realise you had to cut them up .
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when cast one it shrikes so got to cut it up glue then bog paint sand to allow for that
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There must be loads of old ones available over there :) i didn't realise you had to cut them up .
Russell can correct me, Bill the Suzuki one looks die cast, that has a 2 piece die that comes apart easy. Sand cast items need taper/draught on them to remove them from the sand when the impression is made. With straight sides and the imprssion in the sand would fall apart when the item was removed, then there is the shrinkage.
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lozzas rite even die cast needs taper but less than sand cast coss I do it all by hand the hole thing is a big shit fite until you get it rite then you make epoxy patens I get sum photo of patens
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not long now and you will just print one ;) Mate of mine is making silencers out of printed carbon stuff , very cool and better than a machined one as you can make hollows etc you cant with machining .The machine he uses is about $750 k worth so a bit out of most of our pockets reach still everything comes down eventually
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I can hardly wait until those 3D printers become main stream and I can go to a "superstore" to buy one. I've heard there are already people making guns that actually work with them.... the possibilities are endless....
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I can hardly wait until those 3D printers become main stream and I can go to a "superstore" to buy one. I've heard there are already people making guns that actually work with them.... the possibilities are endless....
At this stage the molds could be readily made with a 3d printer. Some of the US guys have used MDF cut in layers to make molds using 3d printers.
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You need the best pattern possible. NOS is the way to go.
Then just scan the part to capture the 3D geometry. Once you have the file scale it up, make the pattern and away you go!!!!!
There is an app for $3 that turns your phone into a hand held scanner and the data is good enough to use (we have done it)
Basic but ok. As you would expect for $3... The $3 one was the flash one. $0.99 will get you a basic app.
To do the job properly use professionals.
At the bottom end of the scale you can buy a 3D printer for £700 from a local electronics shop (Maplins) here in the UK. On ebay basic ones start at about £1000. They are no very good (but getting better at the time)
To do anything serious use professionals. You don't have to be buy your own, there is a Whole Industry out there waiting to help you. (and it doesn't have to be that expensive)
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I can hardly wait until those 3D printers become main stream and I can go to a "superstore" to buy one. I've heard there are already people making guns that actually work with them.... the possibilities are endless....
At this stage the molds could be readily made with a 3d printer. Some of the US guys have used MDF cut in layers to make molds using 3d printers.
It's a shame that the gun gets all the headlines. I would not recommend doing it as it is so poor it is likely to blow your hand off.
additive manufacture is a very interesting tool that will change our lives. It's an engineering revolution that we are only just starting to understand to try and extract the benefits.
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I can hardly wait until those 3D printers become main stream and I can go to a "superstore" to buy one. I've heard there are already people making guns that actually work with them.... the possibilities are endless....
At this stage the molds could be readily made with a 3d printer. Some of the US guys have used MDF cut in layers to make molds using 3d printers.
It's a shame that the gun gets all the headlines. I would not recommend doing it as it is so poor it is likely to blow your hand off.
additive manufacture is a very interesting tool that will change our lives. It's an engineering revolution that we are only just starting to understand to try and extract the benefits.
Yeah, it is a shame that guns get all the headlines. That's what happens when we listen to the crap they feed us on the news. . Just yesterday I heard an article on 3D printers being used for trials in the medical field to make human body parts...Interesting stuff.
I have no interest in guns whatsoever so I won't be making one any time soon. I do however have a great interest in all things two wheeled and being able to re-manufacture all the worn out/broken bits and pieces at home would be such a buzz.
In the mean time, blokes like KDX are doing a great job on keeping our old bikes alive with casting parts.
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i say ban 3 D printers world wide just so no one can make guns [and dike parts ] will put me out of a job
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I think science fiction and news morph together too often.
I heard the gun story was exaggerated, while you can make something that looks like a gun to be able to fire a bullet from one is something else, from my understanding the gun would need at the least a metallic firing pin.
Your job will be safe for a while yet Russel, the real place of 3d printers is to help make the moulds for casting.
I could see years ago the need for casting some parts but didn’t have the resources to do so, your parts look good and I wish you every success with it.
Something else to consider is replica CZ hubs if you think you can cast them with the needed strength, the magnesium originals often suffer from old age and are risky to use.
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c z hub no problem I need to cast a steel liner in it that's ezey
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Your job will be safe for a while yet Russel, the real place of 3d printers is to help make the moulds for casting.
In our life time for sure.
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I think science fiction and news morph together too often.
I heard the gun story was exaggerated, while you can make something that looks like a gun to be able to fire a bullet from one is something else, from my understanding the gun would need at the least a metallic firing pin.
Your job will be safe for a while yet Russel, the real place of 3d printers is to help make the moulds for casting.
I could see years ago the need for casting some parts but didn’t have the resources to do so, your parts look good and I wish you every success with it.
Something else to consider is replica CZ hubs if you think you can cast them with the needed strength, the magnesium originals often suffer from old age and are risky to use.
I hope not then, I will be out of a job! What you are doing is fantastic and finding people who know what they are doing with casting is getting harder and harder. Keep up the good work.
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im starting the 1981 left side clutch cover now I hope sum one byes the 4 1984 covers I have or its now worth doing this hafter find a job
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that's cr 250 clutch cover
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I need one of those 84 CR250 covers. Has one been tested yet? Are you in the Brisbane area?
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c z hub no problem I need to cast a steel liner in it that's ezey
The steel part is riveted on to cz hubs including in the front wheel, a couple of places make the hubs in aluminum now but I don't know what prices are like. If you were to go ahead with making them I have a rear hub I'm a bit suss on using as it looks to have been welded on 1 side
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im starting the 1981 left side clutch cover now I hope sum one byes the 4 1984 covers I have or its now worth doing this hafter find a job
Are you doing an 81 cr250 cover?
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I hope sum one byes the 4 1984 covers I have or its now worth doing this hafter find a job
You could get a job teaching pidgeon english.. ;D
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Hey KDX, I said I would buy a cover too, I was just waiting for the testing to be completed, once you are OK that they are right let me know & I'll buy one.
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If I was you I'd be casting all the Honda stuff in Mag. that way you know you'll have some repeat customers every two years or so.... ;D
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I quit often lose trace of who want what sorry people keep reminding please
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No Problems, just don't want you to think people won't keep to their commitments when you have done all the hard work.
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No Problems, just don't want you to think people won't keep to their commitments when you have done all the hard work.
Same goes for me. I want one too but am waiting for the report back on how it works.
I think science fiction and news morph together too often.
I heard the gun story was exaggerated, while you can make something that looks like a gun to be able to fire a bullet from one is something else, from my understanding the gun would need at the least a metallic firing pin.
The gun I mentioned Geoff did indeed fire a bullet. I listen to the ABC and they covered the story. It was manufactured by some engineering students at one of the big US university's and fired at a shooting gallery. No doubt it did have some "real" metal in the firing mechanism but I doubt they'll ever be in a hurry to explain how they made it.
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PM sent
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Testing the case for kdx175
I thought I would post up some pics
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No Problems, just don't want you to think people won't keep to their commitments when you have done all the hard work.
Same goes for me. I want one too but am waiting for the report back on how it works.
I think science fiction and news morph together too often.
I heard the gun story was exaggerated, while you can make something that looks like a gun to be able to fire a bullet from one is something else, from my understanding the gun would need at the least a metallic firing pin.
The gun I mentioned Geoff did indeed fire a bullet. I listen to the ABC and they covered the story. It was manufactured by some engineering students at one of the big US university's and fired at a shooting gallery. No doubt it did have some "real" metal in the firing mechanism but I doubt they'll ever be in a hurry to explain how they made it.
How to make it? Just log on. It's a free down load, anyone can access and down load the files for free. That is their point. They want everyone to have a gun. They are from the pro gun lobby in America. It certainly is no secret!
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Just finished the 1st run with KDX175's clutch cover.
No over heating (actually ran cooler)
Sealed up perfect with zero leaks.
Overall I would say that this is a unreal product that will last at least another 30 years.
Please pm me if you want to ask about it or I will have it at lakes tomorrow if anyone wants a look.
Also while doing this I stumbled across a supplier for the mech seal for half the $80 Honda charge.
Pm me if you need one
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ok alls good with clutch coves paul tested them one miner problem water pump seal was a tad close to impala I took .75 mm out of housing were metal bit of seal fits I got 4 left ant takers
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Yes I want one. Sending you a PM
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progress can anyone spot the odd one out (http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000064_zps971832be.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000064_zps971832be.jpg.html)
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Bottom RHS a CR250 1983 LHS cover...
Brett
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Not me!!!
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yep 1 st one
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(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000062_zps83839886.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000062_zps83839886.jpg.html)any one want 1981/83 cr 250 clutch cover its the 1 st one that worked out good any interest pm me
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so no one needs any 1981/83 clutch covers pm if you do
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I have an 83, but right now its OK, unless there was a special deal then i could not see myself buying the first one to put on the shelf..
Cheers Brett
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You have quite a talent to do this in your garage. I think you should to advertise this stuff on Ebay oz and usa. The yanks are chasing this stuff and the 85 CR500 clutch cover are always in demand.
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are you doing any for 83 honda cr125 waterpump/clutch housing
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im doing patens for 84 cr 125 now
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Russel ... may I suggest you put a post on " Marks swap meet " telling them what products you are casting also.
No good casting a line if the fish aren't biting...... move to a different pond where the fish are plentiful.
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Russell do you have any 84 250 covers left and how much are they ?
Thanks Bill
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I got 10 84 s in cnc shop now should be finished by Friday
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im doing patens for 84 cr 125 now
I will tell my friend with the CR125RE he will be happy.
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I`ll take a 125 one as well, Thanks.
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can any one lone me a 1985 cr 500 crank case and I need a clutch cover in not to bad shape to get measurement of you get them two back and one to cut up for a paten
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i have a CR500 crankcase that is damaged (just a big hole below where the halves meet under the crank), i don't have a clutch cover though.
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if its 1985 will it fit different models 86 / 87 ?? and yes can I borrow it send you the post
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Your parts look good, you should cast you name in them somewhere.
The 85 crank case is a one model only part No but the clutch cover fits 85 & 86 so there can’t be too many differences.
Part # = 11340-KA5-690
Part Description = COVER, R. CRANKCASE
Model Count = 2
CR500R-F 1985 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-G 1986 500 CR500R Off Road
Supposedly the gasket is the same for many years so the cover must have had differences in the water pump area??
Part # = 11395-MAC-680
Part Description = GASKET, R. - (replaces 11395-ML3-790, 11395-ML3-306, 11395-ML3-000, 11395-KA5-690, 11395-KA5-306)
Model Count = 17
CR500R-1 2001 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-F 1985 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-G 1986 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-H 1987 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-J 1988 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-K 1989 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-L 1990 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-M 1991 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-N 1992 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-P 1993 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-R 1994 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-S 1995 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-T 1996 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-V 1997 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-W 1998 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-X 1999 500 CR500R Off Road
CR500R-Y 2000 500 CR500R Off Road
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Would you be interested in doing some YZa and YZb clutch covers , by any chance . Iain
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ok but latter would like a photo 1 st give me a look at what im up fore
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Ok can post tomorrow , I have a Cpl so can send you one as a mould . Iain
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Would you be interested in doing some YZa and YZb clutch covers , by any chance . Iain
Ok can post tomorrow , I have a Cpl so can send you one as a mould . Iain
What would be equally as popular would to cast up some Jones YZ/DT/RT clutch covers as these are the Holy Grail for DT1-YZA-B guys. Perhaps the same mould could be used with the addition of the Jones logo. If only we had one to cast a mold off :'(.
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if its 1985 will it fit different models 86 / 87 ?? and yes can I borrow it send you the post
yes you can borrow no problem.
the clutch covers will fit 85 & 86 as GMC said. as for the crankcases i am sure 85 & 86 are the same (maybe a small change but will interchange between models) with a definite 5mm higher deck height (where cylinder mounts) from 1987 onwards. so 1987 onwards is not interchangeable to 1985/86
i will see if i can locate a 1985/86 CR500 clutch cover
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I just looked on ebay for YZ/DT/RT clutch covers no good I cant make one with out having one maybe I could cast of original then cut that up to make paten
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did you mention you have to destroy the original in the forming process?
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there is a way of not killing it its a lot more work and I don't know if it would work no harm comes to original part
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OK - coz I am like Iain and may have one available as a mould. YZB cover that is
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i can try without scraping the original cover it just may be a wast of time and look shit
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I have a friend who is restoring an '86 Honda CR250RG, but the clutch cover is corroded too far to repair. I would imagine that he would be happy to send you his cover to make a mould from, if you are interested in making covers for this model. I think that someone has already asked about the '86 CR250 clutch cover earlier in this thread, so I think that there is a market for them . Or does a later model cover fit and work without major dramas ?
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I have a 86 or 87 250 cover and crank case it on the list to do just time if I cant get 85 cr 500 to next I will do the 86 250
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I have a friend who is restoring an '86 Honda CR250RG, but the clutch cover is corroded too far to repair. I would imagine that he would be happy to send you his cover to make a mould from, if you are interested in making covers for this model. I think that someone has already asked about the '86 CR250 clutch cover earlier in this thread, so I think that there is a market for them . Or does a later model cover fit and work without major dramas ?
I have seen an "86 CR250 with what looked like an '89 CR clutch cover on it. It was the cover that had the removable bit to access the clutch. I have no idea how much, or even if any modifying was involved as I haven't seen the inside of the '89 cover.
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I have a friend who is restoring an '86 Honda CR250RG, but the clutch cover is corroded too far to repair. I would imagine that he would be happy to send you his cover to make a mould from, if you are interested in making covers for this model. I think that someone has already asked about the '86 CR250 clutch cover earlier in this thread, so I think that there is a market for them . Or does a later model cover fit and work without major dramas ?
I have seen an "86 CR250 with what looked like an '89 CR clutch cover on it. It was the cover that had the removable bit to access the clutch. I have no idea how much, or even if any modifying was involved as I haven't seen the inside of the '89 cover.
i know someone who has done this mod. The '89' 250cc clutch cover is a bolt on unit and and the only mod is the brake pedal return spring mount.
Note this is not the case with the 500 as the clutch pack & counter shaft needs changing as well as other mods.
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maybe its now worth doing the 85 - 88 covers if you can modify 89 covers
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KDX, sorry mate i cannot find my old CR500 1985 crankcases, i must have chucked them out a few years back. i am looking for a 1985 CR500 clutch cover.
i do have a 1986 CR250 clutch cover spare - are they damaged during your process of pattern making / casting ? sorry for this question i have no idea of whats involved on reproducing these in alloy.
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I have seen an "86 CR250 with what looked like an '89 CR clutch cover on it. It was the cover that had the removable bit to access the clutch. I have no idea how much, or even if any modifying was involved as I haven't seen the inside of the '89 cover.
I've got an 86 CR250 with the later model 2 piece cover fitted. It was like that when I purchased it so I thought they were a straight bolt on?
Can't be too hard to fit them if they don't fit straight on ... looks factory and works perfectly.
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not to many people know this sort of thing its old and forgotten art im a moulder core maker by trade as well as a paten maker fitter and turner but crap at welding I think I wont do 86 on if you can buy them still want to do cr 500
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not to many people know this sort of thing its old and forgotten art im a moulder core maker by trade as well as a paten maker fitter and turner but crap at welding I think I wont do 86 on if you can buy them still want to do cr 500
I'm not so sure the '89 CR 250 clutch are that easy to get Russell. I think they had the same problem with corrosion as well. I reckon you would still sell a few covers for the '86 CR250...
There is definitely a market for what you do in VMX world. A lot of parts are hard to get and even more parts are broken and worn out. You have a niche with what you do.... Stick at it mate ;D
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maybe its now worth doing the 85 - 88 covers if you can modify 89 covers
I don't think that the '85 would fit the '86 and later covers as the '85 was ATAC and '86 onwards was HPP.
There was also a change to the activation mechanism from '88 onwards (I think), so although the later model cover fits the crank cases the pre '88 bikes may need to swap out the P/V activation mech.
I think....
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I think I just make 85 and see what happens gota get one 1 st
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are we talking about cr 500 or 250
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I'm talking about the 250's
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Was there an '88 CR125 amongst those built?
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I have 10 more 1984 cr 250 clutch covers finished reedy. New screw in hose fittings look much better 350 $ 15$post in oz pm me
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so no one needs any 84 clutch covers
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I NEED one but I just can't afford it at the moment. Along with all my bills, the hot water system just shit itself as well.
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i have 3 1984/86 cr 125 to sell anyone interested $350 $15 post (http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000109_zps7ebed392.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000109_zps7ebed392.jpg.html)(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000108_zpsbfa5fb96.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000108_zpsbfa5fb96.jpg.html)
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Love your work mate, it's fantastic
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Nice ! I'll get onto my mate in Wallan that has said he wants one, stand-by.
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Amazing job , do these also fit the 1983 model ?? or were they different again ? Regards Relfy
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thay fit 84- 86 im told the one fitted in photo is 86
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KDX your work is amazing,keep it up.
In our disposable world full of new part fitters you are an old school tradesman, we dont see the likes of you often.
I am impressed!
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sumones got to buy them or im just wasting my time
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All you tossers on here that say...."yea, I'll have one if you make it" have to realise if you piss people around then you WILL NOT GET ANYONE MAKING THE STUFF FOR US TO KEEP OUR BIKES GOING!!!!....if you say you want one then buy one when there done.....no bullshit excuses....oh, my bla, bla, bla.....I've seen it on here heeps of times.....If you have no intention to buy one then keep your mouth/typing finger shut.....Russell's done an awesome job on these, if you said you wanted one then buy one....there's too many 2 dollar tightarses on here that think someone should give you one for free or for some unrealistic cheap price. I hope I haven't overstepped here Russell but know how much effort you have put in. Put the price up and put them on Marks Swapmeet Russell.
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as above what davey said. also put them on gumtree and ebay if you like, i am sure you will move a few to the yanks as well.
i WILL buy a 1985/86 CR500 if You make one. i reckon a few other will as well. i am hoping to find one for a pattern to be made as i am hesitant to part with the one on Big Red.
Edit - i too will give a deposit as 090 has suggested.
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I will buy an 85 cr500 one as well. I will buy an 88 cr250 one if you make them and if the 89 cr500 one is prone to rot, one of those as well. Happy to give you a deposit to show I'm committed.
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Yes please! PM sent.
Cheers, Grahame
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The only problem with evilbay is there charges....it cuts into your small profit....Marks is the go, a guy from Canada put an add on there looking for my YZA/B, DT/RT1, 2, 3 clutch actuators, there's one on the way to Alberta, BC now. I have sold 14 word of mouth around the world [the DC plastics guy even has one], have 6 left then I'll make some more. The price is going to go up as the time/effort gone into them is not worth the small profit. They are one of the best things you can do to that model bike. Russell's covers are a work of art, support those who go out of there way to keep our sport alive.
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i have one 84 125 left I have add on marks swap meet not one bit them yanks dont trust me i think ebay next
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Kdx 175
I am interested in two covers for a 1984 Honda CR 250 - you can email me on gwilliams@Global ASP.com
Thanks
Gavin
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Hi are you able to send to the UK. I have a CR125 1985.
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well i cant sell my clutch covers on ebay or anywere[have sold 4] so im all most broke and about to say fu#k it i have a thort put HRC on them it stands for Honest Russells Castings whats your thorts on that any one ??
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Russell
You need someone who knows sales and distrubution.
Give a distributer a go.
Eg VMX unlimited VMX racing
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These UK ebay ones are way dearer than yours Russell,yours have gotta be better,Aussie made way to go ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-CR125-1986-CLUTCH-WATER-PUMP-CASING-RE-MANUFACTURED-IN-ALUMINIUM-/251432366618?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3a8a89721a&clk_rvr_id=585346679971
There is an old discussion on vitalmx about cnc'd ones also,but looks like they never got finished,seems like a lot of US guys wanting them ;),maybe try an add on there :) http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Old-School-Moto,22/CR125-Clutch-waterpump-cover,1249000?page=1
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Did you put them on Marks Swapmeet Russell?
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i sold one on marks swap meat havent herd back from him yet
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well i cant sell my clutch covers on ebay or anywere[have sold 4] so im all most broke and about to say fu#k it i have a thort put HRC on them it stands for Honest Russells Castings whats your thorts on that any one ??
Hi Russell,
can you post a link to your adds here ?
Lets see what the adds look like :)
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261375748699?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 its not flash
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well i cant sell my clutch covers on ebay or anywere[have sold 4]
So only 4 in total out of both 250 & 125 including the one I brought off you?,there seemed to be a lot on here saying they would take one :-\, Money talks,bullshit walks ;)
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Go back over who said they wanted one and pursue that avenue first , there was as I remember a lot of interest . Didn't Crabman in south Africa want a couple ?
Also how spread was the interest across the models ? go back through the thread and see .
Could be that people have forgot but are still keen . Obviously its probably the most important thing on your mind ATM as you have a lot invested but to others who want one its real but they may not be prioritising it .
Check their profiles for email addresses as not everyone comes on here all the time so an email saying ready for delivery might help
I want one for an 84 250 , but I cant commit until I can pay you ( so that's not much help I know ) .
Great product but a combination of lack of promotion ( not your fault ) and more so a shit economy .
Good luck you are filling a need ( apparent need ) that has been talked about for years on here :-\
Chase those who said yes first .
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Yep words of wisdom Bill,It's up to the seller to be pro-active and chase up potential leads to make a sale happen ;)
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Hi Russell
An alternative add for the internet, perhaps.....
Despite the inherent quality engineered into all Honda products, time and/or a lack of preventive maintenance can take its toll on any bike resulting in some vital components becoming unserviceable and rendering the motorcycle unrideable. Not a desirable situation for any rider.
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Australian Russell kdx experienced this very issue himself, and with the skill and determination of a tradesman with over 100 years of quality casting experience, set about creating a low volume high quality solution. Manufactured from corrosion resistant Aluminium cc601 and CNC machined to the same exacting standards as Honda, these covers are the affordable solution.
Rigorously tested, this is a 100% guaranteed to fit item just as an O/E cover would. Every cover is personally inspected by Russell to ensure EVERY cover is made to his exacting standards, EVERY time, guaranteed !
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INSERT 3 TESTIMONIALS HERE Russell, not necessarily from these cover buyers
Get your Honda back on the track where it belongs with Russell kdx's replacement water pump thingy, engineered to go the distance !
kdx Geoff
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Also in your add list all the other models you have covers available for.
One thing going against you is the lack of e-bay sales in the past which restricts your reputation.
People will be wary of being burnt by another scammer so you will have to convince them you are legit.
Accepting Paypal yourself will help because it will give customers a sense of comeback (just watch you don't get scammed yourself)
Sending COD (only available within Australia)
Sending everything with tracking to take away any possible problems with things being lost in transit.
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Geez Russell must be an old bastard ;D, ,But seriously making an add the same or similar is a better way to sell your wares,if you aint a add exec Geoff you should be ;)
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nice work jeff you no your words thanks could have cut out the ash tray coffey cup but thanks
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I just noticed I really need to straighten up that peg. :)
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there is a facebook Page dedicated to 1986 CR Honda's https://www.facebook.com/groups/160638920757187/289274457893632/?notif_t=group_activity i just gave you a good testimonial Russell, scroll down a bit to see this
Carl Spanner Man
Any cr500's for sale ? Also looking for 1984 cr250 parts thanks
Carl look at this link on ebay http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261375748699... and read about the product and see some pics on the OZVMX Forum Here http://forum.ozvmx.com/index.php...
honda 1984 CR 250 Clutch cover water pump housing
www.ebay.com.au
honda 1984 CR 250 Clutch cover water pump housing in Vehicle Parts & Accessories, Motorcycle Parts, Accessories, Classic, Vintage Parts | eBay
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Hoony, what a nice thing to do for him and help promote his product and skills, all good and surely the market is out there for them.
Martin
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I still want one for a 85 CR500
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if sumone gets me a 85 86 cr 500 i will do it but it will take time i gota find a job
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Can supply the one off my bike how long do you need it for and where am I sending it to?
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is its rooted i will have it
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no it is still usable
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cant cut up a good one
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You can If I get a replacement in a reasonable time!
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and if i fail sum how ?????anything can happen
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Your the man Russell, you can do it, hey fellas, has anyone got a damaged one they can send Russell.
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Actually when I think about it I do have another case but it had a really bodgy repair done to it will have to find it they had put epoxy over the outside of the case is that any use? Why do you have to cut it?
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i cut it up to cos when aloy melts it expands when it cools it shrinks it shriks more than it expands so it will be to small cut it up to make it biger to conpensaite for shrinkage its a pain in ass but thats what it is time consuming
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I will have a look for the old one
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Hey these clutch covers look great, i really need one for my 86 CR125RG and am ready to purchase it today!!! It is the only part keeping me from finishing the bike. Please let me know where and how to purchase this cover from you asap, thanks!!!
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KDX175 is at Murphy's Creek vinduro today. Saw the covers yesterday at QVMX practice day. Very good. The mad bugger also cast himself an alloy tank for the KDX since the plastic one split. He is brilliant! Yes a cast KDX fuel tank! Looks good too.
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Hey these clutch covers look great, i really need one for my 86 CR125RG and am ready to purchase it today!!! It is the only part keeping me from finishing the bike. Please let me know where and how to purchase this cover from you asap, thanks!!!
Send him a message and ask if he has 125 case.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261375748699?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
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im starting to make 94/86 125 clutch covers tomorow
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This is cheap.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Honda-CR500-1985-86-NOS-Water-pump-clutch-cover-New-old-stock-11340-KA5-690-/161220579596?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item25897ed10c&_uhb=1
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I can't understand why anyone would buy Russell's covers. :)
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LOL I think cr 500 next then retire
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guy on ozvmx facebook after a cr500 one.
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Pm sent , interested in 84 cr125 case.
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if any one needs a 1984 cr 250 clutch cover i have 10 reedy 84/86 125 next week i hope(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000057_zps768ba553.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000057_zps768ba553.jpg.html)
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hi all my cluch covers are 400 $ NO OFFERS thanks
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Hi
we met up in echo valley, i had the 82 cr250 with the 83 motor in it but never got it going in time to actually ride it up there so it stayed on the trailer :(
actually still havent even started it yet as i have been waiting on some misplaced parts out of the usa.
got my case back on & bogged up for now so reckon i am ready to take an 83 LH case of your hands if you have one?
you mentioned that had one done but it needed some extra holes etc????
cheers, steve
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the 83 clutch cover hase one extra bolt hole near the water pump and a 45 bend on one water spigot that all i have 6 in my shed pm me if you want one
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i have finished the 1985/6 cr 250 anyone nead one $400email me russellbrown13@bigpond.com
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Stunning work, just fantastic
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looking for any interest in cr 500 heads if you are interested in one email me on russellbrown13@bigpond.comnhttp://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000178_zps80663b8c.jpghttp://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000178_zps80663b8c.jpg
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there is no combustion chamber in it i forked up the photos sorry
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Looks good Russell.
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THERE SHOULD BE A BIG DEMAND FOR THE 73-75 TM100/125 MAG Covers...same mag cover also fits a couple TS models..and the RM 125 M/S...just thinking..they are next to impossible to find and very easy to destroy cheers
Good call , there is definitely a market worldwide for those, i have a NOS one if you need a pattern :) They were magnesium and are not available ex Suzuki anymore .
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If you are interested in making TM/RM125 ignition covers I have a slightly damaged one you can cut up. Bill may be willing to loan you his one to provide an example.
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i have investagating 3D scanning and printing i would like to try it on them i wont have to cut it up if it works pm your ph number
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1983 cr 125 clutch cover this is 1 st one any interest $400(http://[URL=http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000181_zps85f1b3d8.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000181_zps85f1b3d8.jpg)[/URL][/img]
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crap forgotn how
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Cool stuff not many will how hard that is. Are you needing a website for this?
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You will sell quite a few in the U.K. I'm pretty sure they are a popular bike over there. I would post an ad in the vintage section of mx trax.
Have you done an '89 cr500 or '88 cr250 as yet?
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iwill do the 82 cr 125 next then i will get a real job can sell them i dont know if there to dear
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you habe done a great job with youe clutch covers i have one of your cr 250 re covers how many did you sell i might buy a second one from you soon
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Have you done an '89 cr500 or '88 cr250 as yet?
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they are still available new.
I have a mint spare one for a 88-91 250 if anyone is chasing one
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the next one is 82 cr 125 after that if i cant find out how to sell them im out finished
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they are still available new.
I have a mint spare one for a 88-91 250 if anyone is chasing one
But they are still magnesium are they not?the next one is 82 cr 125 after that if i cant find out how to sell them im out finished
bugger.
Can you send me some photos and which cover they are and I will place ads in as many places as I know. Email to
brad_vanbarrelo@yahoo.com.au
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The post 90 ones don't seem to rot. The used one I have is as new in the impellor area.
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I think the 90 onwards are NOT magnesium
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the next one is 82 cr 125 after that if i cant find out how to sell them im out finished
A simple website, an ad in VMX magazine, Marks swapmeet, maybe an ad on some VMX clubs website or newsletter or go to some VMX race meetings and set up a stand. Just a few ideas. You need to make people aware that you have them and I'd think those red riders would snap them up real quick ;)
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Why not just cast up repair sections and offer a service to get the new section welded into the corroded out cases (probably need some final machining). Would be cheaper for you and the customer.
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Why not just cast up repair sections and offer a service to get the new section welded into the corroded out cases (probably need some final machining). Would be cheaper for you and the customer.
Not a chance, first up aluminium and magnesium castings are like chalk and cheese
You can’t weld mag with aluminium rods and you can’t weld aluminium with mag rods so you would never get the 2 parts to mate.
Then you would need to cut out a section of the old case to fit the new part giving you alignment problems of the shaft.
Not to mention distortion problems from the heat.
Those Mag cases are a pain to work with at the best of times, much much easier to just bolt on a new part and go riding.
The Hondas I would consider great bikes for their era and are worth spending the money on.
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Cast or machine from solid out of magnesium then? Cases are welded and machined everyday without problems but yes distortion is a issue but not insurmountable .Sure bolt on is easier but the man making these said he won't be doing any more. Any alternative that saves Russell having to pay for a shitload of CNC machining up front while he waits for CR owners to buy the cases off him is worth investigating.
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I take it you have never had to repair one of these covers?
What your proposing isn't feasable and would end up costing more by the time the customer finds a welder and machinist willing to take on the work let alone wear any problems with alignment and leaking.
At the end of the day it wouldn't be as good as Russels creations.
It is a complicated cover that has no easy and reliable solution to fix other than replace completely.
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I bought a 85 CR125 casing from him a while back.
Fitted a treat, all threads etc were perfect. Well recommended.
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I take it you have never had to repair one of these covers?
What your proposing isn't feasable and would end up costing more by the time the customer finds a welder and machinist willing to take on the work let alone wear any problems with alignment and leaking.
At the end of the day it wouldn't be as good as Russels creations.
It is a complicated cover that has no easy and reliable solution to fix other than replace completely.
You don't need to repair anything only need to replace the impeller housing with an aluminium housing, water never enters the cases only the impeller housing.It's a very simple machining job to make a replica impeller housing that will piggy back off the existing impeller housing and drive from the existing shaft.
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it will rot between the mag and ally different metals
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Lozz why if its so simple a fix have people over the years been paying big money for the occasional NOS case that comes up or as most have done made do with dodgy Devcon repairs ?
Ole mate has gone to a lot of trouble and expense to cast these replacement covers and sells them at a very reasonable cost .
Anyone who goes to the trouble of taking on such a quest surely deserves all our support , the only thing he needs help with is marketing . Word is getting out there , I saw this thread linked into a UK VMX site the other day . I reckon if someone is going to Farleigh or some of the big Yank events and could take a couple of samples to display it would be a good thing .
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I can repair most things and have reasonable experience welding magnesium. The only way to fix these covers once and for all is buy a new one. Its a no brainier really, buy one of these repo's and forget about it and ride your bike. Sure as night follows day if you devcon up your cover you will drive 1000km's to some race only to have it fail.
Check Website http://www.crclutchcovers.com
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an ad in VMX magazine...
You can get yourself into to VMX Magazine for free by featuring your great work in Parts & Products [and it would be great to support the magazine by advertising, but there is no obligation].
Currently the magazine in both print and digital formats is distributed to 65 countries around the world.
Contact: ken@vmxmag.com.au
Its a free service, can't get any better than that. You would be mad not to take advantage of it.
VMX42
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thats my next plan to do a add in vmx magazine when my website is finished
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mugen 125/360 kits you will sell them like hot cakes
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thers no way im going into mugen 125/360 kits to technical to much work i cant sell what im making now
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hi people i got a simple web sit tell me what you think and crate a dit of trafic http://www.crclutchcovers.com/page1.html
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simple and to the point. Good stuff. A couple of typos "business" and "foundry" but I reckon it's a really good start.
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Good stuff Russell. Perhaps a list of the models you have covers for would be good and also maybe label the photos. Is there a reason you haven't put a photo of your good self on the site ;D
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to forken ugely
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I've seen uglier Russell....lol.... ;D
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I've seen uglier Russell....lol.... ;D
One word MIRROR ;D
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All you need now is a feature article in "VMX magazine " with you web site and you should have the bases covered ...... yes you need to label each pic.
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Looks good, clean & simple
ID Labels would aid buyer confidence.
I wouldn't call them "Repo" call them "Works Style, Sand-cast" and charge twice as much for them. ;)
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any one looking for a 1982 cr clutch cover [imghttp://(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000203_zps559c380e.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000203_zps559c380e.jpg.html)][/img]
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nice!
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Looks good, clean & simple
ID Labels would aid buyer confidence.
I wouldn't call them "Repo" call them "Works Style, Sand-cast" and charge twice as much for them. ;)
He is right.
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im still hear if anyone needs a clutch cover
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Hi what sort of aluminium are you using for the castings?
cheers
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did any one end up doing the YZA clutch covers ?
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i use aa 601 aluminum ingot and thats no to the yza covers at this stage
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83 cr 250 yes im still doing thease things
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Nice work!........In regard to making other parts, how thin can you cast?
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3 mm
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wow thats for an 83 cr?
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it's an absolute pity that you're not overwhelmed with orders. Casting is a "dying art"and from what I've seen and read on the forum you do very good work. Like nearly all of the "old trades" the demand (despite all the interest) is fizzling out. Yep it's just so easy to go and buy a CNC machine and make your own parts. From past experience dealing with some forum members I find there are a LOT of "talkers and wanters" out there but actually getting them to put their hands in their pockets is a totally different matter. Funny old world we live in where people are quite willing to spend a small fortune on important stuff like "Emulator valves , trick shockies and exhausts"without a seconds thought but the thought of buying a side cover leaves them gagging at the cost. These are the guys that never actually make anything for themselves and have absolutely no idea about what's involved. Unimportant stuff like preparation--materials--machining--profit margin--spending time dealing with potential customers. But hey, that's just my opinion and at the end of the day I'm just a cynical old fart that knows very little,tho I hope you do well!!
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thanks lewis im making a liveing at this sold one to Alaska last month serprized the shit out of me
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new web site www.crclutchcovers.com look please need sum traffic
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still no YZa covers......
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Any plans to reproduce the magnesium clutch covers for liquid cooled Husqvarnas in aluminium?
I believe there is a worldwide market there as well.
Tony.
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Any plans to reproduce the magnesium clutch covers for liquid cooled Husqvarnas in aluminium?
I believe there is a worldwide market there as well.
Tony.
http://www.dcvmx.com/xcart/product.php?productid=20572&cat=589&page=1
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its on its way this is air cooled(http://[URL=http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/huski_zpsnnljm7uf.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/huski_zpsnnljm7uf.jpg)[/URL][/img]
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1984 magneto cover ktm 125 wc
Comes with plastic one but distorts and does not seal
Are you interested?
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new web site www.crclutchcovers.com look please need sum traffic
That address not working Russell.
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1984 magneto cover ktm 125 wc
Comes with plastic one but distorts and does not seal
Are you interested?
+1 84 ktm495 plastic cover has to go
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"+1 84 ktm495 plastic cover has to go"
Likewise '84-89 Husky ignition (plastic) covers.
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you mean these [imghttp://(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p790/kdx175b/S5000210_zpsvta2w5it.jpg) (http://s1351.photobucket.com/user/kdx175b/media/S5000210_zpsvta2w5it.jpg.html)][/img]
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http://www.dcvmx.com/xcart/product.php?productid=20572&cat=589&page=1
While these look to be a nice cover, they are $652 AUD at today's exchange rate.
How much would yours be once finished Russell?
I would much rather support Aussie businesses than send the money overseas, I don't know what the quality of their clutch cover is but it would want to be better than their plastics! Although I doubt they manufacture these, probably made by someone else and sold by DC.
Tony.
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The product you refer to on the DC plastics site is manufactured in the UK for or by HVA factory products and is of the highest quality.
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Sorry, I didn't realise they were HVA covers, and yes they are very high quality.
I have come to think of DC products as second rate which may or may not be a fair assumption, but in some cases deserved.
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when i get the water cooled 82 cover finished cost will be AU$ 350
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Sounds great Russell! There are lots of rotted magnesium covers on water cooled Husky's around the world, and with our exchange rate they should be very attractive to overseas buyers.
Does that include the later '84-89 covers?
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Kdx 175 - Your work looks fantastic. Would you consider doing some custom one-off work?
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depends what it is i dont have much spare time
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Works clutch cover for a 1971 YZ125. Project won't start until 2016 so I'll contact you then and see if you're interested.
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wow, a yz125 from 1971, look forward to seeing that one day. rare little beast.. is it like an OW27?
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Yes very rare and very trick, serial number YZ627-B-01 making it the first YZ125 ever made. Weighs less than 150 lbs. This particular bike was in the first batch of bikes given to Torsten Hallman in the spring of 1971 when he was hired to develop the works Yamaha YZ into world class bikes. Torsten sponsored Swede Tommy Jansson on this bike and he won the 125 Swedish Championship with it.
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still going strong
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i dont need one but there seems to be a demand for husky watercooler clutch covers 85 - 88. i did see a guy on cafe husky looking for a cover for the 84 125 (a 1 off) and they are RHP. maybe put up a note on cafe husky, its a ww site.
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Reckon I have a clutch cover for '84 125.
K
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Hi KDX, how much work is it to make one of these without a master to work from, only the top cover needed not the seperate combustion chamber shown in the underneath shot
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Is that all one piece? Is there an o ring around the plug area if it's 2 piece?
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Lozza,
2 pieces there, there is the combustion chamber (inside piece) that bolts to the top of the liner and then the outer cover bolts down over that to the outside of the barrel/water jacket. The spark plug hole is raised on the combustion chamber part and the outer cover has a hole that fits over/around it, and there is an 'O' ring between the two for the water seal, my TSS post has a few photos that might help.
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Cheers that offset squish has some bad detonation
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TTeeza send me sum photos it looks easy but you never know until i see it russellbrown13@bigpond my phone 0409145845
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off set detonation :o....i thought Bultaco was spanish for blow up ;D ;D
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80-85 husky i have the 84 huski WC 250 all most done just finishing the plastic cover in aluminum
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excellent news. i will let one punter know who is busily trying to resurrect an old rotten one...he might be yr first customer