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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tim754 on May 14, 2008, 07:20:48 pm

Title: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: Tim754 on May 14, 2008, 07:20:48 pm
As an observer of VMX since pre 1990 I have been thinking about  Oz and NZ VMXers that could be top of the all time Honours List in my opinion.
Riding on forever.
Geoff Eldridge.
Ray Ryan
Andy Caldecott

Mark Firkin   Really do I need to explain...
Brian Clarke  A total gentleman and the a staggeringly fast old style straight back rider for years and years. Special mention his sons Tony,Peter and Noel. what a family.
John Boag  What planet misplaced this friendly ,humble ,grinning, unbelievably fast and efficient racer?! and if you have seen his ..umm rough...racing machines well................

Please add your pleasant thoughts. Cheers Tim
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: Hoony on May 14, 2008, 08:04:57 pm
Some from many years ago

Ray Fisher
Ken Rumble

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Post by: E74 on May 14, 2008, 08:09:03 pm
Johnny Cross
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Post by: Wombat on May 14, 2008, 09:50:23 pm
Stephen Gall; a lifetime spent in the sport.
After all these years he's still involved in many ways .
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: VMX247 on May 14, 2008, 10:25:19 pm
I did a google search for VMX Legends and it came up AjayVMX????
Also, what about this Magoo person???
Everyone in over 55's WA VMX class,then I can't get blamed for forgotting someone.
Andrew Mcdonald (I know he is a VMX photographer)
Jack McDonnell and all his passengers
Bill McDermott and all his passengers
My husband  ;) ;D
and many more
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: AjayVMX on May 14, 2008, 10:35:00 pm
Eeek!  That's scary... ::)  and wrong.  ;)

My vote goes for (in no particular order of importance):

Stephen Gall
Anthony Gunter
Per Klintland
Jeff Leisk
Geoff Worrall
Beetle Bailey
Hans Applegren
The Flood Brothers
Mike Landman
Graeme Smythe
Mark Pace
Glenn Bell
John Behrens
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: firko on May 14, 2008, 11:29:10 pm
Jeez Tim..I don't know about me being a legend but thank you anyway. If you are talking VMX legends which I think you were, there is only one living legend and that's John Boag. If you're talking Aussie motocross legends which the guys seem to think you are, my vote goes to the great Roy East. That bloke blazed the trail for every Aussie who ever got on a 'plane to race overseas. He was  a great racer but more importantly he was a gentle and humble man. 1964/65 World 500 Champ Jeff Smith once told me that Easty was one of the toughest privateers he ever raced against and that if he wasn't an Aussie he would have got a works ride and then really show the world how good he was.
Unfortunately the Brit factories only hired Brits in those days and Roy missed out on the dream ride despite beating the factory riders on a regular basis.

* I have to agree with your take on the Clarke family Tim. They are not only fast but are truly nice folks. Brian has done more for VMX than just about anybody else in Victoria or the rest of Australia. He has single handedly organised three Vintage Nats at Ravenswood and they've all been rippers.
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: dave king on May 15, 2008, 05:41:41 am
To most euros there is only one oz mx legend......   Jeff Leisk.....   He tamed a RC500 on europes GP circus.....Respect.  He should have been a world 500cc Champion no question.
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Post by: TM BILL on May 15, 2008, 07:24:32 am
To most euros there is only one oz mx legend......   Jeff Leisk.....   He tamed a RC500 on europes GP circus.....Respect.  He should have been a world 500cc Champion no question.
I thought this thread was about VMX legends  ???

In NZ the following are true VMX legends

Syd Harrison RIP
Bill Mcleod    RIP
Barry Senn   RIP
Hugh Anderson
Tim Gibbes
Morley Shirriffs
Peter Ploen
Murray Anderson
Wayne (weazal) Marshall
Mark (Cocky) Meadows
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Post by: eno on May 15, 2008, 08:37:47 am
 ;D Then there's the Kiwi vintage good bastards award:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c123/czeno/VMXGB2008.jpg)
left to right - Daza, Cocky, DJ Racing, TMBill, CZeno...how did we do it? & who'll be next  :o
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: Doc on May 15, 2008, 09:08:36 am
Some who's not been named yet but also needs to be included is Don Newell and Vern Grayson. Both legends and an inspiration to this day  ;)
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: firko on May 15, 2008, 11:10:22 am
There are a lot of blokes whom I regard as VMX legends but as I said in my earlier post, John Boag encompasses the true spirit of what our sport is about. He's a racer beyond reproach but still has that collector mentality that even the slowest among us posess. Doc picked a couple of good choices in Don Newell and Vern Grayson . Both of these great blokes were and still are serious racers as well as working hard behind the scene to make it all possible for others. Vern was poorly treated by some of his fellow racers and MA and it left him pursuing other pursuits these days and Don has had the burden of his dear Marie being so ill in recent times but he still turns up at just about every big East coast event. I'm proud to call both of them friends.

We can't forget the fantastic kickstart that Geoff Eldridge gave our sport. I went to him with an idea and he grabbed the concept with both hands and gave much more magazine space that we ever deserved thereby putting the vintage motocross message into the mainstream. He genuinely loved the VMX movement and the folks involved. When he died I not only lost a dear mate but the sport lost its best and most enthusiastic voice. Ray Ryan picked up the batten after GE died and took our sport to a new level with the amazing VMX magazine. Ray single handedly legitimised our sport and created the "one nation" VMX global village by making the magazine internationally focused rather than being centred on only Australia. Thankfully Rays vision has been carried on by Ken, Ajay and Jeff with the maintaining of VMX's quality and philosophy.

I think Tims original list is pretty spot on (bar my inclusion of course!). The great contributions made by these early "legends" is reflected in the great sport/hobby we all enjoy today.
 





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Post by: VMX247 on August 04, 2008, 12:01:12 pm
Found this article by Ray Ryan
Heeps of words and not many photos,very different from todays articles
This Southern Cross event was run again on sunday,this event must be over 30 years old now. ;D
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: VMX247 on August 04, 2008, 12:04:02 pm
page 2
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Post by: VMX247 on August 04, 2008, 12:05:07 pm
page 3 from ADB  Jan 1978
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Post by: mainline on August 04, 2008, 06:06:33 pm
Dinsdale, Dinsdale?   ;D
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Post by: Wombat on August 04, 2008, 06:10:04 pm
Dinsdale, Dinsdale?   ;D
I recognise the line - but what's it from?
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Post by: mainline on August 04, 2008, 06:14:22 pm
that can be tonight's quiz
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Post by: firko on August 04, 2008, 06:15:13 pm
Good bloke Ron Dinsdale. He was not only one of our first GP riders, he was the first vintage motocross arse kicker. He was practically unbeaten in his years riding Rob Watsons Bultacos. He came back at the 2000 Ravenswood Nats to ride Stackers Maicos and his dices with Andy Caldecott were edge of the seat stuff.
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Post by: Wombat on August 04, 2008, 06:16:39 pm
that can be tonight's quiz
Hmmm, I'm thinking something from the UK...a Monty Python sketch?
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Post by: Graeme M on August 04, 2008, 06:31:21 pm
One of the Pirhana brothers I reckon. Great bloke ol Dinsie. Cruel but fair...
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Post by: mainline on August 04, 2008, 06:39:14 pm
and the winner is.....



And no disrepect to Ron Dinsdale either.
Title: Re: True Australian and New Zealand VMX Legends.
Post by: firko on August 04, 2008, 06:41:00 pm
http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/piranha.htm (http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/piranha.htm)