OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => Competition => Topic started by: kim80y on May 14, 2013, 08:51:38 pm
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Not long now folks to one of the great new VMX events in QLD.
Camping available Saturday evening, please pay at QMP office.
Sign on and scrutineering available Saturday after lunch
Food available Sunday,
Showers, toilets etc available.
As it is a moto park, open to the public you can ride ( pay at park office) as per usual on Saturday, just not on Sunday's VMX track.
CLASSES OF COMPETITION:
Pre 70
Pre 75
Pre 78
EVOlution
Pre 85
Pre 90
Womens all powers
Up to pre 90 sidecars
? Some classes will be combined depending on numbers.
Also talk of a "superseniors" class age racing. 8)
Cheers
Kim
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Entry available on the day, no late fees, but would be advisable to pre fill forms etc in the interest of getting through the day in a timely manner with plenty of ride time. ;D ;D ;D
Cheers
Kim
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Darn it, I wanted to ride this but life seems to be getting in the way :(
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A little confused ??? Do we have to book and pay QMP $45 for Sunday or is it covered in our entry costs for the event.
Cheers
Craig
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Sunday cost is $60 for the day payable to QVMX, only 1 entry cost, if you want to ride in the park on Saturday (not on our Sunday track), you pay the normal park fee's to QMP. It will be a great event.
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And if you want to camp at the event Saturday night you pay QMP
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Cheers thanks. Will camp Saturday for an early start ;D
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What time are you planning to start scrutineering on Saturday?
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Anyone got news on Davey's condition?
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i spoke to jack at ash spoke wheels today
he heard broken pelvis
not good news
wish you a speedy recovery john
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Ouch :o what happened?
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This is my first run for the year (possibly more than that ::) )
Can I join QVMX on the day (or before then)
Can I get a day licence ?
What time does scrutineering start on Sunday ?
Can't wait 8)
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I know we will be scrutineering after lunch Saturday , other info best going to their web site direct or sending them a e-mail. See you out there ;D
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Will do. Thanks for that.
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The supp-regs say there is a late fee and it also doesn't list a cheaper price for extra classes. It is great that you can use Nominate to enter but you need to have a cheaper rate for 2nd, 3rd etc classes. How many riders are only riding one class.
Ask the Steward to approve a change to the supp-regs.
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The supp-regs say there is a late fee and it also doesn't list a cheaper price for extra classes. It is great that you can use Nominate to enter but you need to have a cheaper rate for 2nd, 3rd etc classes. How many riders are only riding one class.
Ask the Steward to approve a change to the supp-regs.
Are there actually extra charges for riding additional classes?
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The supp-regs say there is a late fee and it also doesn't list a cheaper price for extra classes. It is great that you can use Nominate to enter but you need to have a cheaper rate for 2nd, 3rd etc classes. How many riders are only riding one class.
Ask the Steward to approve a change to the supp-regs.
Kev I'm pretty sure the entry fee is the same whether you ride 1 class or 10 classes, it always has been. Also I believe they've waived the late fee for this one and you can enter on the day.
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I know what has been said in the forum, but the supp-regs still state late fee. If you try to use nominate to enter and you want to add an extra class it wants to charge you the full amount again. That's $120.00 for 2 classes. How rich is Brad?
It may just be nominate that has done this because they only go by what the supp-regs say.
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No late fee and one price for as many bikes you want to ride.can not get any better than that! :D
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I know what has been said in the forum, but the supp-regs still state late fee. If you try to use nominate to enter and you want to add an extra class it wants to charge you the full amount again. That's $120.00 for 2 classes. How rich is Brad?
It may just be nominate that has done this because they only go by what the supp-regs say.
I might be spectating at that price!
See you Sunday Kev.
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Just looks like that till you get further in the Nominate process..... Heres my 2 bike entry:
Invoice Number : 39672
Invoice Date : 16/05/2013
Name Of Rider : Kim Schiemer
Email : ***************
Address : *************
Forest Lake QLD 4078
Phone (Home) :
Phone (Mobile) : 042*2*0*5*
Date of birth : 22/05/1974
Next of Kin (In case of emergencies) : Channon
Relationship : Wife
Next of Kin phone number : 043*08*96*
Licence Number : 300283
Expiry Date : 02/03/2014
Riding Number : K44
Discipline : Vintage Moto X
Grade : Super
Entrant / Sponsor : Kim Schiemer
Licence No. : 300283
Licence Expiry : 02/03/2014
Notes :
Class Nominations
Class # Class Name Rider Name Machine Fee
04 EVOlution Kim Schiemer Yamaha IT-250 $60.00
06 Pre 90 Kim Schiemer Yamaha YZ-490 $0.00
Total : $60.00
Cheers
Kim
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Oh and I can personally Guarantee that there are no late fee extra charges etc, Members from both clubs that gave their email address's with their membership should have also received verification of this also.
Cheers,
Have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D
Kim
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Hi Kim, can we camp in the pits or do we have to camp on the other side of the road? Are the pits going to be along the straight like last time or behind the start line?
See ya there 8)
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Hi Popeye,
I'm thinking at this point pits will be both areas with a 4m buffer from the fence. Sounds like you should be able to have pits/camp in your 1 area, as long as its not a caravan or motorhome!!
Looking like being HUGE with many new members having signed up in last 2 weeks.
Sound be an absolute ball.
All I need to do now is finish the MX400 and find a great pre 75 or pre 70 twinshock, but that will be 12 months off yet, fingers crossed.
Cheers
Kim
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i am driving down sunday morning
what time is scrutineering starting and finishing at ???
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Harden up and come down Sat TGIRL :-*
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i am driving down sunday morning
what time is scrutineering starting and finishing at ???
6am-7.45 Rusty..
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Thanks Kim, bike sounds good mate 8)
How many Pre entries????
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i am driving down sunday morning
what time is scrutineering starting and finishing at ???
6am-7.45 Rusty..
Starts Saturday Afternoon around 1pm
Cheers
Kim :)
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need my beauty sleep so i can come
down and smoke everyone ha ;D ;D
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need my beauty sleep so i can come
down and smoke everyone ha ;D ;D
BEAUTY SLEEP HAHA Not enough hrs in the night for you Girlfriend :-*
And as for SMOKING everyone each too there own ;D
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Wow what a great day 114 riders and great weather.
Many thanks to QVMX and BMCC committees and volunteers for coming together for these interclub events.
Get well soon Davey we missed you.
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A great days riding on a great track. Thanks very much to the team that made it all happen
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Totally agree, WOW What a great meeting and well done to all involved,track was great, everything ran on time, a couple of injuries to a few riders, but a bloody good day......
Bring on the QLD Titles at HARRISVILLE......
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Had a really great time. Big thanks to all the club members and volunteers that put the meeting together. Well done. 8) 8)
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What A great Day! Thank you to all that contributed to making it happen...The amount of competitors was a pleasant surprise.
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When down to have a look as I have not been to a QVMX meeting since the Conondale Classic.
Great turn out of people and bikes. some of the quality of bikes is so impressive these days.
Good entertaining racing to watch.
Very well done to all involved as it was well worth the drive.
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Just a bit of news on Adam Land, no697 Pre90 250 race, he crashed heavily up the top in the first race and he has a broken Wrist and Colar Bone on the right side and a broken elbow in two places on the left side, theyre going to operate on him on Wednsday on his wrist and elbow, we told him we could do it here in the shed but he wasn't keen don't no why :D
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There was a few casualties in Pre 90 Popeye...Travis Hanly had a shocker into that first gully jump. I was right behind him & he highsided into the berm followed closely by a angry 87 CR250. I checked his eyed after & his pupils were not reacting to light changes, so I assume he was badly concussed. Crazy stuff going on in Pre 90 class (250). Some people forget why we are out there...ITS FOR FUN!!!! Hope everyone recovers well.
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Pre 90 open second race. Glen Bell (7) and Jason? (9). Jason was quicker than me but as he explained he had a bit of a 'moment' early on. Another lap and he would have had me. I had a ball.
I also have a video of JohnnyO and I in evo 250 that I will post when I upload it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdr0VpOw93U&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdr0VpOw93U&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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I enjoyed watching the 500s! Belly is frightfully smooth, but you did a bloody good job Brad! There was so much traction out there, the Big Bangers would have been a handful....I cant wait to get one!
Did you have a get off in one of the races? Don't see that often! ;)
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I enjoyed watching the 500s! Belly is frightfully smooth, but you did a bloody good job Brad! There was so much traction out there, the Big Bangers would have been a handful....I cant wait to get one!
Did you have a get off in one of the races? Don't see that often! ;)
Thanks mate. No I stayed upright all weekend. I really enjoyed riding the 500. I need to sort the brakes and suspension though. Too many bikes to prep and not enough time....
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Sucks to be you, eh? ;D
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Yeah there were a few offs, another one from the Harrisville crew came off an EVO OPEN RM 400 and put the clutch lever through his left leg.. And like Whitey said well done Brad good to see ya up the front pushin em in the big bores...
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What a great idea to combine the two clubs and an awesome day...
Thanks to all
Tim
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The 80cc Race is bloody funny to watch!
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Yeah had a blast, great weekend can't wait for Toowoomba ;D
Cheers
Nick
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We should also thank the QMP track guys who prepared the track (Mick & Ross) and Ray. I did a little bit but those guys are the main ones.
I was interested in the 80cc race. I have asked this question before on another thread, but is it time to introduce a class for Juniors on classic mini-bikes? You can race 9 to 16 year olds together if the permit allows for it. Because this meeting was at QMP did anyone notice how many sons and daughters of classic riders were also riding on the other tracks.
Kevin
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I think that's a great idea, I noticed it for sure! Most of the kids cant wait till they turn 16 to race with us...
QVMX limits the class to pre 90 models with maximum wheel combos of 14" & 17"...
More young kids having fun, more parents & kids doing projects together (in most cases), more members, more revenue for clubs...
9-12 years & 13-16 years class?
Am I on the wrong thread?
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Q.V.M.X. constitution stipulates, " no juniors ", and in my opinion that's the way it should stay.
Let us old bloke have some fun without chasing grommets around all day, its hard enough keeping middle aged men organised, let alone kids.
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Q.V.M.X. constitution stipulates, " no juniors ", and in my opinion that's the way it should stay.
Let us old bloke have some fun without chasing grommets around all day, its hard enough keeping middle aged men organised, let alone kids.
Sorry to those that enjoyed the 80cc race, but I have to agree with the sentiment above. When you have full grids like we did on the weekend, it did seem a bit silly to me to have three 80's buzzing around while everyone waited.
It may be short-sighted, but we have two complimentary clubs up here, catering for all eras up to pre90, and I can't see how adding a 'novelty' class to a race day is necessary for the future of vmx.
Both Brissy clubs have heaps of practice days each year if the kids (or adults) want to have a go on an old 80.
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The 80's are a waste of time proven by the amount of people interested in riding one..
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Hi Mainline,
The 80cc isn't a novelty race within the QVMX club it is actually a club championship class.
This can be 80cc 2 stroke and also up to 100cc 4 stroke.
This was introduced by and voted on by club members.
This was a interclub day for both clubs but it was also for points for QVMX members. As it was one of their championship rounds.
I do believe the whole day run well and finished well and truly within the time frame alotted for the event.
With the numbers building up in many of the other classes the clubs still need to be mindful and run the classes that have smaller numbers at times.
It was great that the 2 clubs QVMX and BMCC were able to get together and enjoy a day like this and on such a wonderful track. Look forward to the next interclub meet.
Regards Lisa Fox
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One of my current projects in an RM80XD that I am rebuilding so I can bang handlebars with Foxy (of the Brian variety as I can't catch Lochie) because those guys racing each other around on their 80's looks like a whole lot of fun to me.
And that's why I do this VMX thing ... for fun so I'm happy to either watch the other riders have fun or, when my bike is ready, get out there and have some more fun myself.
I've seen a number of XL100's (they might be big bore 125's for all I know) at a couple of BMCC meetings and there were 6 or 8 80's at the Connondale Classic last year .. and they had a whole lot of fun ... even Tatey dragged out his fully race prepped TM75 for a blast.
I'm sure this fun thing will catch on and a few more 80 might appear .... if nothing else they are fun to watch and it's another 10 minutes for our tired old bodies to recouperate so I support the class (which is not for juniors).
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Im with you Simo63!
Im doing a RM80k in the near future, & im looking forward to running it!
We will be scrapping for the minors though, with Tommy Hannan & Russell Williamson.
Lochie is at a slightly different level...
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The 80cc bikes are fine as long as the rider is over 16.
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Hi Mainline,
The 80cc isn't a novelty race within the QVMX club it is actually a club championship class.
This can be 80cc 2 stroke and also up to 100cc 4 stroke.
This was introduced by and voted on by club members.
This was a interclub day for both clubs but it was also for points for QVMX members. As it was one of their championship rounds.
I do believe the whole day run well and finished well and truly within the time frame alotted for the event.
With the numbers building up in many of the other classes the clubs still need to be mindful and run the classes that have smaller numbers at times.
It was great that the 2 clubs QVMX and BMCC were able to get together and enjoy a day like this and on such a wonderful track. Look forward to the next interclub meet.
Regards Lisa Fox
Hi Lisa,
Sorry if my post came across as negative as I thought the whole day (track and management) was fantastic and said so in a post on the previous page. I was merely voicing an opinion after someone asked a question about the 80cc class, and maybe "novelty" was a poor choice of words.
I do think however, if the 80cc/100cc class is to stay it'd need a few more entrants. I don't know if you could combine them with another class?
Anyhow,it was a great day, my first time back racing in over 12 mths, and i'm really looking forward to the next one.
Cheers
Paul
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Hi Paul
I should have separated the sentences a bit more. Top part was to explain the classes of 80cc. But the rest was just my opinion on how well everything come together for the interclub meeting and how good it was see the great numbers of entrants. I should have put it in a separate post(thinking about it now)
Written word is hard, I didn't take anything you said as negative at all sorry if my blurb come across that way.
The 80's usually run in with the Pre 75 or Pre78 125's which is really funny to watch as the 80's usually run circles around the 125's.
The class did have other classes in with it however one class (1 rider)didn't show and other class still only had 1 rider.
Regards Lisa
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Great video Elvis I love the sound of that 500 Braaaap!
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Great video Elvis I love the sound of that 500 Braaaap!
stay tuned for the second one on the Evo 250.
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Agree 100% with Lisa and Paul, fantastic well run meeting on a great track with a big turnout of riders, vmx is alive and well in Qld!
About the 80cc race, I think with only 2 riders at Coles creek and 3 at QMP the class was introduced prematurely.. I would think you'd need a guaranteed 10 or more starters to run it...
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Agree 100% with Lisa and Paul, fantastic well run meeting on a great track with a big turnout of riders, vmx is alive and well in Qld!
About the 80cc race, I think with only 2 riders at Coles creek and 3 at QMP the class was introduced prematurely.. I would think you'd need a guaranteed 10 or more starters to run it...
I disagree JO. At Coles Creek there were exactly 3 Pre 78 250's .. should we not run that class until we can guarantee 10 starters? I support that the clubs allow these bikes to race by combining them with other classes where possible.
I think combining the 80's with the pre 74 125's at Coles Creek was fine although Davey might not agree judging my his hand waving gestures in the final race of the day ;D
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Many classes often don't have more then 6, thats why they can be combined, so everyone can have a go, including sidecars, how many runs would sidecars get if they had to have 10 to a meet??
If the day was so jam packed that there couldn't be anything else fitted in then that may need a closer look, but even at QMP there was all in ride at the end, which only 2 took up the oportunity, and sidcars could have had another run too, but declined.
I welcome the day there are too many classes and bikes at a meet for grids to be full aall day and not enough time in the day to get through a meet.
Cheers
Kim ;)
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2 points, the number of riders dosnt really change with the number of class's, the average of riders seems to be static over the last 6 or so years. Watching 2 or 3 bikes in any class is a waste of time and the organisers need to be mindful where possible, the other thing to consider is that small wheeled machines can not race with large ones under the GCR's( and yes I'll stand corrected)
otherwise, it all about the fun, and if it works, go and have fun
Cheers Worms
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a great meeting for the sidecars we all had a ball doing what we do, ride em, brake em, fix em for the next time (we had fun thats what its all about) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Simo I know you've only been in vmx for 5 mins so you're probably not aware that new classes are usually introduced because of demand, 3 bikes in a new class is hardly high demand.
Pre 78 250 has been proven over time as a popular class, you're not always going to get big grids at club days but it got off to a better start than the 80cc class and good numbers turn up to title events.
Who knows maybe this discussion will get more people interested in the 80 class?
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I welcome the day there are too many classes and bikes at a meet for grids to be full aall day and not enough time in the day to get through a meet.
Cheers
Kim ;)
You've just described most Australian titles I've been to..
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Simo I know you've only been in vmx for 5 mins
Ouch .. that stung JO. I've been racing VMX for a bit longer than 5 minutes JO but I certainly concede it's only been 5 years since I first raced my restored Elsinore at Coles Creek. Regardless of you pointing out that I might be a VMX novice I do not think I said anywhere that 3 bikes makes a class. What I questioned was your statement that they should wait until there are 10 bikes to make a class and seeing as though you did not qualify that with "at a club day" then I responded with my opinion. But hang on?? We are still talking club days so, again regardless of my novice vmx nature, I believe if there is more than 2 bikes that want to race then let them go for it. Sure combine the race into other classes to make sure the event goes smoothly.
Who knows maybe this discussion will get more people interested in the 80 class?
Lets hope so. I'm certainly working on getting my bike out there to boost the grid numbers ... well ... really just to have a bit more fun ;D
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Quote from Wasp. The other thing to consider is that small wheeled machines can not race with large ones under the GCR's( and yes I'll stand corrected).
You are corrected in senior classes (not Junior) there is no wheel size restrictions. I have seen fathers race their son's or daughters 85cc bike at club days in the Lites class. A club is also allowed to race small wheel 85 with big wheel 85 Juniors together (sorry I used the word junior). I'm also sorry if I touched on a taboo subject by suggesting there could be one 80/85cc classic MX Junior class. Classic MX has a great family atmosphere.
I also had a great day on Sunday. I didn't know there was an all in race at the end. The club needs a PA.
PS how do you ad quotes from a previous post in blue.
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it's worms, not our old mate wasp! ;D I would like a level 4 stewards opinion. and as always i will stand corrected, race them seperate, but not together.
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Sorry about the name mix up, but you did get a level four steward's opinion. also level four CofC, Race Secretary, scrutineer, starter, judge/timekeeper and former MX commissioner.
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cool, I will agree that at Minikana's they can, but we arnt racing Minikana's here, so again, if your a club you would want to confirm that the GCR's allow for combining of your minis with the larger wheeled bikes in general competition.
it's a healthy debate, the club needs to confirm before just throwing these bikes in the mix.
race them seperate is all I'm saying.
Worms
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dont be sorry for using the word junior
julia raced for 2 years bmcc as a junior on 125
in that time only 2 other boys joined her
i put up a motion at bmcc agm 2009
to have a juniors 80 class
this motion was voted no
with crys of we dont want juniors taking over our club
perhaps its time for a change
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Well that's EFed that.
Spoke to local TM agent(TM motorcycles...not Suzuki TMs) yesterday and he mentioned the great day that they had at QMP on the "fantastic natural terrain circuit out there" on their moderns practising for Connondale this week end.
When I mentioned that they had modded all the neg camber corners and made it faster, he related how much quicker it was and sooo much better.
I 'spose that's great for high speed modern riders but that's not really what that track was built for (supposedly??)
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When did they modify the track Vaughn?
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they took out a fair bit of dirt on the off camber corners in some corners they took about 2ft of dirt on the inside lines
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Well I'm talking out of turn a bit as I didn't ride last weekend but from what I've been told they have dug out and put berms outside the of the neg camber turns up the top of the hill.
I just think that it was one of the best tracks I have ever been on, though I've only ridden a few, because it had a bit of everything including those neg camber turns, which made riders have a bit of a think plus it slowed the field down which made for better racing. The surface was near to perfect loam and the terrain and lay-out more than suitable for both riders and spectators.
AND one of the best for passengers TOO......
Think about being a passenger over an appearing horizon into a neg camber right hand-er, then having to jump over for a down hill neg camber left hand-er, which tightens up and runs along a neg camber terrace, which then kicks left and then dips down to the right.
(lucky I was on with Lama and not Hansi or even Popeye for that matter :D :D :D :D)
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The track was excellent last weekend and if they've changed it since the nationals last year it's minimal and i didn't notice it..
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could be you're on different lines so maybe you need a ride in a sidecar to get what I mean......when's a good time for you??
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Track was pretty much the same for me too. Maybe you sidecar guys need to stay on the track... Or turn up :-*
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come on Brad, sidecars in Qld have grown exponentially since 2009.....far quicker than any other class.
so we break down at times (so do the outfits) so what?
so I didn't make it to Wyaralong....1st race I've missed in a while.
just like the fat kids, we get picked on for being different.
BTW. My Wasp is looking for a driver for Harrisville....you available?
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I'm going to have to remember to edit first. ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnCCIqr_1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnCCIqr_1w)
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I'm going to have to remember to edit first. ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnCCIqr_1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnnCCIqr_1w)
Nice ride :)
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Cheers. I forgot to start it off on the line. Remembered half way round the track. A picture of concentration I am.
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Sorry I haven't responded for a few days, but there are some things that need comments.
1. Worm the club doesn't need to confirm anything RE the 80cc class. The GCRs already permit the 85cc 2/- & 150cc 4/- classes to race small wheel (15" to 17" front) and (14" rear) with the big wheel class (19" to 21" front) and (16" to 19" rear) together GCR 12.17.3 & 12.16.0.3 a). Please note 85 2/- & 150 4/- Juniors are permitted to have full size wheels 21" front 18/19" rear. So small wheel machines can race with bikes with the normal size wheels. Also the sup-regs permit the club to combine classes if needed.
2. John the track has changed. With work having to be done on the track on a regular basis the profile of the corners and camber has changed. The bikes push the dirt to the outside of the corners and it hasn't always been brought back in. Sometimes it has been done to protect the sprinklers. Fixing broken sprinklers is not a pleasant job especially on a cold day. Digging in mud is not my idea of fun. For a track to be a true natural terrain track it can't be used all the time. The best natural terrain track in Queensland was Echo Valley, this is going back 30 years. It was used once maybe twice a year. There is a DVD that shows that. Conondale is going down the same track with over use. Tracks can not remain natural terrain if they are used too often.
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Kev if anything I like the track more now than last year, maybe the slight off cambers of last year are more level making the corners easier to get thru.. Or maybe it's just that my Maico turns so much better than the RM370? ;D
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Yes I agree the track is better to ride now (and maintain) but the more it is used the less and less it is natural terrain. The only bits that are grass now are on both sides of the start straight. We had the PROs there on Thursday. Waters. Gibbs, Moss twins, McKenzie, Marrmont and more. They kept pushing the track wider and wider. Pushed one water barrier 2.5 metres of the track and broke a sprinkler (of course).
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Ban the Pro's and save the track for Vintage.. Problem solvered!
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Don't ban the Pros...Put them on Evos! :D
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Put them on pre 78s with limited rear wheel travel. It's the LTR that digs up the track. Piss them off to their own circuit!
If they cut corners or continue to push it wide, put some ropes up like in the UK.....no corner cutting there and no complaints about tracks being dangerous either.
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Lets get something clear the natural terrain track does not belong to vintage and it does not belong to quads. It was to be just used for special occasions and race meetings. That is why there is a start area and flag points. In my opinion if it keeps being used as much as it is the track will just end up as another track at the park. For any track to be true natural terrain it shouldn't be over used. Also even if the PROs were on Pre78 machines they would still rut up the track they just go so much harder than any of us old farts.
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wE
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Try again. Stichers in my finger have me bumping all sorts of buttons.
We were told that from the very begining so lets keep it that way please. Lock it up and just use it for "occassions"
I'l even supply some cattle to run on it and we can split the profits ( I was going to say sheep but you know how some of these VMX riders are)
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Well said K ;)ev!
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Here is hoping we get another great club day there again one day. Thanks to Kev and the QMP crew for such a well maintained track and both clubs for a smoothly run event.
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Sorry I haven't responded for a few days, but there are some things that need comments.
1. Worm the club doesn't need to confirm anything RE the 80cc class. The GCRs already permit the 85cc 2/- & 150cc 4/- classes to race small wheel (15" to 17" front) and (14" rear) with the big wheel class (19" to 21" front) and (16" to 19" rear) together GCR 12.17.3 & 12.16.0.3 a). Please note 85 2/- & 150 4/- Juniors are permitted to have full size wheels 21" front 18/19" rear. So small wheel machines can race with bikes with the normal size wheels. Also the sup-regs permit the club to combine classes if needed.
where in the GCR's does it list 80cc bikes for classic motocross, it does not, so unless they are part of the sup regs, i would think they are in breach of GCR's, so by all means have a seperate race but I think you will find you should not combine them with other classes. But hey, you advise them as you must be right. Worms
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As far as I'm concerned , if I get a ride in what ever category I've nominated for ,and the day doesn't drag out , I'm happy for the 80s to have a ride , as i understand they were voted in by the club anyway ,is it really concerning those against it that much ??
Stop sucking on a lemon , and get over it , or get yourself an 80 !!!!
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Worms The quote (in blue) you have from me is wrong. The following words are not from me.
"where in the GCR's does it list 80cc bikes for classic motocross, it does not, so unless they are part of the sup regs, i would think they are in breach of GCR's, so by all means have a seperate race but I think you will find you should not combine them with other classes. But hey, you advise them as you must be right. Worms"
Yes it doesn't say that 80cc is a classic or post classic class in the GCRs it also doesn't list a Women's class should we drop it too. (I don't think so). It also doesn't say in the GCRs that you can't have any extra classes at a Classic meeting. The sup-regs have been approved with the 80cc class and Women's class so that is it. Protest it if you want to. And again the 80cc class is a senior class so it can be combined with another class. At QMP it was run with the Women's class. If you still think the GCRs don't permit it please find that rule and let us know.
Either way let the club get on with doing what they do best. Or run for a position on the club executive and do it your way (if you have the support).
Kevin
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I don't care how many classes the club run, my point is about protecting the committee and it's members from liabilities from running outside the GCR's. Has anyone bothered to contact MQ or MA regarding the 80cc class in Classic Motocross and have written guidance for running of the class. If they have, good, but if they havnt they need to, that is all I have been saying in a round about way.
as for doing things my way, well it would be done as per the GCR's and by the book. As I learnt the hard way at the introduction of Pre85, applying to MA for the class and introducing it at club level, all done by the then committee of the QVMX for all of Australia and look at where it is now, so lets make sure we do it right and lets see where it ends up.
I will make this my last post,
Worms
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I will make this my last post,
Worms
Hmm ... I hope you mean "I will make this my last post on this subject" Trev?
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As most of us know, if anyone is going to run things by the book, it would be Trev, and with his wealth of experience it would be done right as well.