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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Montynut on March 23, 2013, 08:46:56 pm
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nice job montynut im colecting parts for one had one back in 77 great bikes
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Nice job greg 8) all you need now is a alloy swing arm ;D
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Ted appears to have a pallet of them he wants to unload :P ;D
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Makes my heart flutter looking at that Scrivo. Looks Good!
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Nice.. why are you running the forks thru the triple clamps so far?
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Very very nice....What are the forks off?
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RM125B internals, caps and lower legs but has PE175 tubes at the moment. It has just less than 9" travel
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I've got a spare set of forks here. I'll bring them to Glenbawn for ya. You can have them for free if they are of any use to you.
I'll see if I can get you some black fork boots. Them blue ones look hideous.
Oh, and some silver paint for that steel girder hangin' off the back as well :-*
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I've got a spare set of forks here. I'll bring them to Glenbawn for ya. You can have them for free if they are of any use to you.
Very generous Ted much appreciated maybe you don't have to paint that swingarm black ;D ;D
We look like having a stand alone field for Pre78 125 if they all show up, now all we have to do is learn to eat big Scotties Yammie dust :D and Reece's Suzi dust as well if he shows up ;D
You never know Jens may have his RM125S there as well ;). Noel Honda is a rapid thing as well.
I still have to run in the engine after a complete rebuilding including NOS crank and fine tune the suspension and jetting.
What gearing you running?
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I think it's unreal that interest is growing in Pre 78 There is some very good riders that ride that era but its gets batshit boring watching / flagging races with only a couple of bikes in it
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I'll see if I can get you some black fork boots. Them blue ones look hideous.
Yes very strange thing those fork boots. Suzuki still list the fork boots so I ordered a genuine set of fork boots, they fit perfectly but arrived in blue ??? At first I spat it but now think they are OK sort of go with the odd rims that I had on hand. Tried to get a matching rear rim but no go so spoked up what I had.
I even fitted a proper rubber mount for the muffler :P
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g'day scrivo
saved ya a spot at singo today but i see your at home planning your assault on a new championship,looks like a nice job,now i'll have to lift my game, makes my old girl look pretty tired,i think you might be the pin up boy for pre 78, of to buy a new tyre for mine tommorow, a bit of roost mite keep you at bay for a little while,looking forward to a stand alone grid as well,bring on the racing.
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Nice job!!!!!
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Thats a beauty. Are you into montessa going on your name, i think you should sell th rm to me.
Brett
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I'll see if I can get you some black fork boots. Them blue ones look hideous.
Yes very strange thing those fork boots. Suzuki still list the fork boots so I ordered a genuine set of fork boots, they fit perfectly but arrived in blue ??? At first I spat it but now think they are OK sort of go with the odd rims that I had on hand. Tried to get a matching rear rim but no go so spoked up what I had.
I even fitted a proper rubber mount for the muffler :P
I've seen you race Scotty, don't fear tha Sec
Sec....
On second thoughts I have seen your dress sense...blue will do for you
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The Pre78s should be great this year as there are at least three new 125s, three new 250s and looks like two new 500s 8) 8). Happy days ;D
I think it's unreal that interest is growing in Pre 78 There is some very good riders that ride that era but its gets batshit boring watching / flagging races with only a couple of bikes in it
Ted will be joining the rest of us BATs. :P ;D
Scotty, was looking forward to riding today but that bloody spained thumb from last weekend is only just starting to come good :-[. Bloody thing swelled up bad last Sunday after I got home ::). Gotto fix that suspension before next months ride days (stiffer springs ordered ;) ). It is a choice track and a fun day so I'll be there with the YZ (can not believe I have a Yamahaha :D) in April.
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Very nice Mr Nut. ;)
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The Pre78s should be great this year as there are at least three new 125s, three new 250s and looks like two new 500s 8) 8). Happy days ;D
I think it's unreal that interest is growing in Pre 78 There is some very good riders that ride that era but its gets batshit boring watching / flagging races with only a couple of bikes in it
Ted will be joining the rest of us BATs. :P ;D
Scotty, was looking forward to riding today but that bloody spained thumb from last weekend is only just starting to come good :-[. Bloody thing swelled up bad last Sunday after I got home ::). Gotto fix that suspension before next months ride days (stiffer springs ordered ;) ). It is a choice track and a fun day so I'll be there with the YZ (can not believe I have a Yamahaha :D) in April.
Very nice :) save the blue gaitors :o What shocks are you running ?
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YSS shocks, PD valves and fork springs.
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Nice job greg 8) all you need now is a alloy swing arm ;D
Very nice, just can't help feeling it needs a trick swinger as well.
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I have a couple of RM125C jobbies away at the welders now actually, weld on a couple of lugs and we are away. Just imagine all those RM125C sitting around without swingsarms. Maybe they can keep all those fuel tankless YZ125C/X company :P ::) ;D
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YSS shocks, PD valves and fork springs.
Did you buy them specificly set up for your bike ?
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Yep Bill, Walter now has the frame specs and mounting details. Just sent him my riding wieght and standard. One of which is high and the other very average leave that to your imagination ;D
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Yep Bill, Walter now has the frame specs and mounting details. Just sent him my riding wieght and standard. One of which is high and the other very average leave that to your imagination ;D
You have done a great job ;D im envious as we sruggle to get support for pre 78 over here ::)
Do love the RM B models 8)
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One of these would look good :)
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Nice 8)
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That looks veerrrrry nice Bill.
The 125B was an outstanding bike in its year. I had one on fuel which was a great bike. I can remember a twin meeting in Dubbo with Short Circuit Saturday and MX Sunday and it was a rocket. Why don't we still have meetings like that?
125Bs are getting hard to find these days, Ted got a real bargain with his. The one I rebuilt was a complete basket case which did a main bearing in 1983 or so and sat in a shed dismantled until last year. Clutch cover off head and cylinder removed etc.
It was owned by a guy I raced against in the 70s and I happened to mention I would like a 125B and he said well I still have mine in the back shed 8) Then he said I saw bits of it kicken' around the other day ::) but we managed to find 90% of it. A lot of things were past restoring while others were excellent. Chucked the carbie as it was an alloy fuz ball but the frame, en engine were not as bad as I thought they would be. Fork tube shot and every rubber part was stuffed.
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great resto, a job well done! I was a lucky son of @#$% got a phone call from a mate, there is a RM125B for sale all origial :D why the hell he just did'nt snap it up himself ??? what a good mate hey ;) I loved raceing that bike as a kid, thought I was Gaston Rahier, well until the 1st race :D ah first race was at Whyalla in 38 deg c and threw up in me BELL helmet, got a 3rd and won 1 dollar for me troubles :o
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Nice job Scrivo. This may just be the first step of weaning yourself off Montesas. The conversion to Yamahas seems to have worked for Mr Nimmo so who knows, this little RM might be the beginning of your religious conversion ;).
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Still got the Monties. I had a Monty 125 in early 77 and it was a complete heap of sh%t so bought the 125B.
Actually my first MXer back in the day was CR250M followed by RM370A then the Monties started but always had an RM125 or KX125 during that time great bikes.
Presently have an RM125N/T almost ready for the track as well ;) :D
Pauls AW440 is tempting so I hope he sells that real quick ;D
Yes have a YZ250 modern to train on and just sold my TY250 so Yammies are OK. I have my '84 KTM on the market and may look at a YZ250L to replace it 8)
Scottie reminded me that I holeshoted a race at Conowindra last year on a borrowed YZ400B (thanks Ricki) and it was quick but still liked the VB360 more ;))
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There was a time when I was all Maicos, six or seven of 'em lined up in neat chronological order and the same number again for parts and/or future restoration sitting in the back shed. Then I wanted something for the 4 stroke class so with Maico not making a 4t I built my Champion framed XL350. Then came the need for a pre 70 250 class bike and a challenge to build a DT1 racer from my friend Geoff Eldridge and before I knew it I'd discovered that variety was fun and all sorts of bikes came and went from Casa del Firko, that philosophy remaining to this day. I still love my Maicos and in fact have just added two more to the collection but now I've even got a Triumph ready to go onto the production line......Variety is the spice of life 8).
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My 414's having a re-birth next year (with some very special shocks). Yamahas were my bikes throughout the nineties and naughties so it makes sense to have some around the place.
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love that rear brake pedal bill ,how do i get one
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YSS shocks, PD valves and fork springs.
What Pre 78 bike did you source the PD valves from Greg?
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YSS shocks, PD valves and fork springs.
What Pre 78 bike did you source the PD valves from Greg?
What do you mean off what bike?? Fork internals are free Ted same as engine internals.
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Cool that internals are free as i have just fitted TTX OHLINS PRESSURISED CARTRIDGES to my B forks. I'd like to run the pre-load adjustable OHLINS fork caps too, seeing as they are attached to the internals do you think they will be OK or do i have to make up a dummy cap so they look like B caps?
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Cool that internals are free as i have just fitted TTX OHLINS PRESSURISED CARTRIDGES to my B forks. I'd like to run the pre-load adjustable OHLINS fork caps too, seeing as they are attached to the internals do you think they will be OK or do i have to make up a dummy cap so they look like B caps?
Sorry I was going to say use your common sense but I forgot this is Ted typing. What part of INTERNALS did you miss ::) ::)
I am not exactly sure what you are getting at but I'm sure you have a point. I thought you would be busy getting Stat Dec's ::)
There are a large percentage of bikes in every era with those types of suspension items included what are you getting at
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Excuse my ignorance of all things Pre 78 as I thought all components had to be manufactured Pre 78. That was why I was curious about what PD valves were available. However after reading the MOMS ( all disciplines and classic dirt sections) I found absolutely no reference is made to front suspension ( internally or externally ) apart from wheel travel. Rear shocks have to mount up the same, exhaust has to follow original lines and gearbox and motor externally unchanged but not one thing about front suspension.
My question is do the forks have to be Pre 78 or can you use 2013 Showa units fitted with the latest Ohlins gas pressurized cartridges and external preload adjustable fork caps limited to 9 inches travel as you can legally use any 2013 piggyback rear shocks with infinite compression and rebound adjustments on the market as quite a few people are doing as long as the mounting points are the same?
Not being a smartarse Greg but with 10,000 pages pertaining to the validity of a piece of alloy manufactured 2 years before the cutoff date holding the back wheel on a bike I believe these rules are a joke. The only thing that comes close to this in the grey area stakes is workcover regulations on a building site. I would of thought Pre 78 meant Pre 78. Apparently not.
Cheers, see ya next week...I'll bring them forks with me.
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Ted the forks have to be Pre78 the same as the frame, engine, wheels, brakes, swingarm etc although the internals of the forks are free to do as you like. The same as the engine, if you can somehow fit a 2013 RM 125 engine inside the cases of an RM125B without changing the external appearance go for your life, granted a little difficult with the water cooling. If you can fit the internals of 50mm forks into the RM125B forks without altering there external appearance go for it as well. The rules are reasonably clear in that area the same as your alloy swingarm really. After market adjustable shocks were available in 1977 and the RM125B had remote reservior shocks standard.
The RM125B parts book was printed originally in 1976 but no one said the swingarm was built then but that is not the issue and never has been. The contested point is that the rules say the entrant must be able to prove eligibility. There in lies the problem with the swingarm to date no one has been able to or confident enough to front up with one fitted with the 'proof' it is eligible in case someone protests or the scrutineers rejected the bike. I think it is legal but I am not going to go to the trouble as I don't have one and don't intend getting one.
I put together the case for the VB series Montesa and also the '78 VB as a carry over model and submitted it to MA and it was accepted about 3-4 years ago. The system works.
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Ok. The next word you hear from me on this arm saga is either yay or nay. I am over it as I am sure you are.
Lets go riding