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Title: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: crash n bern on March 02, 2013, 09:05:27 am
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/261174316009?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1199
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: oldyzman on March 02, 2013, 11:39:44 am
Thats really quite nice.
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: firko on March 02, 2013, 12:26:49 pm
The wooden tailpiece is strange to say the least.....plus, I don't ever recall seeing a US Racing Blue Rickman Monty. It's an early pre crinkle fin bike, a different frame to the crinkle bikes but a good thing just the same. Although they don't look it, Rickman Monty's are substantially lighter than the factory Cappra.
Here's a couple for sale on Marks that make that Aussie blue bike a bargain because of the lack of shipping...They're nice bike's just the same, more original than the Aussie blue bike. The missing parts are easily found though.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/15501050-19332-large_zpsbb2a157e.jpg)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/15501050-193322-large_zps82ca06c1.jpg)
FOR SALE
Ad # 3211818 February 27, 2013
 
1974 Rickman Montessas TWO, both in excellent race ready condition. Asking $2,500 each or trades for street bike considered.
     Steve Churchill
San Jose, CA
Phone: 408-316-4095 | Email
Registered Since 1/1/2013 | 2 Posts

 
 
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: Tahitian_Red on March 02, 2013, 01:34:18 pm
I know the gentleman that owns these. Should be easy to get them to port of Richmond  ;)
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: Mick D on March 02, 2013, 03:26:38 pm
The wooden tailpiece is strange to say the least.....plus, I don't ever recall seeing a US Racing Blue Rickman Monty. 
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We are all slaves to different budgets. I see the plywood tail as a piece of art/ingenuity to get the job done and back on the track as a ready to race, complete bike. It looks that bloody good, that I would probably leave it as is.
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/T2eC16NHJHQE9nzEjldBRKGBUP0w60_3_zps3bdec003.jpg?t=1362197546)

And mate that colour blue happens to be my favorite shade of the rainbow.
(http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv132/mc125mick/T2eC16VHJF0E9nmFRpU8BRKGBP4I3Q60_3_zps6943d3bb.jpg?t=1362197606)
A lick of paint shouldn't be enough to deter anybody from a dream mount anyhow. I reckon I could claim to be a lot smarter if I bought this bargin instead of continually throwing my super at Maico fascination and loyalty through the acquisition of junked Maico parts as a build means.

Geez this photobucket is like lightening.   
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: cyclegod on March 02, 2013, 03:37:10 pm
I don't know why you keep saying plywood it is clearly an aluminium tail piece  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: crash n bern on March 02, 2013, 03:40:49 pm
Plywood?  Never seen anyone get a neat fold, not to mention pop rivet, plywood.  You blokes have such eagle eyes I'm suprised you didn't pick up that it's some neatly folded aluminium.  Good buying if it goes for the starting bid.  And it does look good in blue.
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: paul on March 02, 2013, 03:41:21 pm
I don't know why you keep saying plywood it is clearly an aluminium tail piece  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


me too,that what i thought!
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: Montynut on March 02, 2013, 04:07:52 pm
It seems to be a bit of a mix. I thought a '72 should have had an up pipe running along the left side?

The earlier Pre70 version had the down pipe with s similiar style of engine although that engine seems to have the Scorpion RH engine side cover

The later VR series engine from '73 also had the down pipe as in Firko's post.

If it is actually Pre70 it would be a very good thing I would think
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: Mick D on March 02, 2013, 04:13:20 pm
Well that's even less to whinge about, at least it wont get termites hey girls and boys.

Maybe its time I got new glasses.

Bargin,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: firko on March 02, 2013, 04:16:16 pm
Now you bring it to my attention it seems I've had yet another pensioner moment. Of course it's aluminium, fluck I'm a dickhead ::), my apologies to our crafty sheetie if he's reading this.
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And mate that colour blue happens to be my favorite shade of the rainbow.
Mick, I'm not criticizing the bike in the slightest, I was merely commenting that US Racing Blue while being a genuine colour for Mk4 Rickmans, wasn't available for the Montesa, the little Zundapp version did come in blue however. For what it's worth I think they look nuch nicer in blue. Another oddity with this bike is that it appears to have a fibreglass tank while every Rickman Monty I've seen came with a steel item. It might be steel but the Monza cap and ever so slightly different shape give it away. Note lack of indentation for Rickman Logo. It's a nice bike if a little mixed up, I get the impression he may have started with a frame and he added the parts as he found 'em on eBay.

Montynut, I very much doubt if you'll get a Rickman Montesa into pre 70 seeing they weren't released until 1971.
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: Mick D on March 02, 2013, 04:23:30 pm
Now you bring it to my attention it seems I've had yet another pensioner moment. Of course it's aluminium, fluck I'm a dickhead ::), my apologies to our crafty sheetie if he's reading this.
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And mate that colour blue happens to be my favorite shade of the rainbow.
Mick, I'm not criticizing the bike in the slightest, I was merely commenting that US Racing Blue while being a genuine colour for Mk4 Rickmans, I don't think came on the Montesa, the little Zundapp version did however. For what it's worth I think they look nuch nicer in blue. Another oddity with this bike is that it appears to have a fibreglass tank while every Rickman Monty I've seen came with a steel item. It might be steel but the Monza cap and ever so slightly different shape give it away. Note lack of indentation for Rickman Logo. It's a nice bike if a little mixed up, I get the impression he may have started with a frame and picked up all of the other parts on eBay.

I reckon you might be close to the money there Fifko, but never the less, still a bargin bit of kit
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Didn't it already pass in once? Unsure,,,

I would be all over it like a rash, If I hadn't just bought the oval 360X3 from the states and pre-60 project and another couple of grands worth of bits and pieces for them last night.
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: mainline on March 02, 2013, 05:40:06 pm
Another oddity with this bike is that it appears to have a fibreglass tank while every Rickman Monty I've seen came with a steel item. It might be steel but the Monza cap and ever so slightly different shape give it away. Note lack of indentation for Rickman Logo.

The original steel tank is included in the auction. There's a pic of it
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: JC on March 02, 2013, 06:51:11 pm
Its actually the frame from the 74 VR-engined Rickman isn't it?

May actually be VR engine w earlier top end & outer engine covers, or very early 73 VR engine which didn't have crinkle-fins

LHS engine cover has me intrigued. Its early style but has LH shifting. Don't know of any model that had that.

Looks very nice to me.
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: Slakewell on March 02, 2013, 06:57:34 pm
These do come up every now and then and there a bloody good thing, I have seen one at the nats in Aus a few times.
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: oldyzman on March 02, 2013, 09:11:19 pm
Getting a few bids too
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: monte34 on March 03, 2013, 11:07:01 am
Sold for just over $3k, seller should have been happy with that. I have some genuine Rickman brochures which show the earlier non crinkle-cut motor with the later style down pipe. There isn't a date on the brochure so not sure when it was printed, it must have been for an intermediate model but this blue one is the only one I have seen like it. ???
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: firko on March 03, 2013, 11:30:57 am
For those wanting a poor boy 4 stroke Metisse, this is a good starting point, if a little expensive IMHO. A Mk 4 Rickman Monty frame with Mk 3 style bodywork. Note the lack of bottom frame rails to accomodate the deep Honda sump. I bought a frame to do the same conversion but couldn't bring myself to cut a Rickman frame so I sold it to Monte 34. I like the fabricated ignition cover that mounts the footpeg....I wonder what he did on the other side?
http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=sXsNTwohkxwPUqCh&w=2  (http://www.vintagemx.us/cgi-bin/largephoto.cgi?C=sXsNTwohkxwPUqCh&w=2)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/hon-mon_zps71aa3a82.jpg)

FOR SALE
Ad # 3211939 March 2, 2013
 
Moving Sale

1972 Suzuki TM400RN370 replica $6500

 1974 Honda XL 350/410 Rickman MKIII Replica $3800

1985 Maico 250, very good core project bike, photos, details om request $800









Cycle World Magazines, left stack is 60's, middle 70's, right 80's, one or all, ask about particular issues, $5-$100

Suzuki TM 400 engine parts, including TS lower end, $1-$50

Only possible partial trades considered: Yamaha LS2 100 twin, engine only needed, Van Tech frame, more.
     J.P. Morgen
San Francisco, CA, U.S.A.
Phone: 415 822-1315 | Email
Registered Since 5/18/2006 | 117 Posts

 
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: firko on March 03, 2013, 11:54:14 am
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Its actually the frame from the 74 VR-engined Rickman isn't it?

May actually be VR engine w earlier top end & outer engine covers, or very early 73 VR engine which didn't have crinkle-fins
 
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It seems to be a bit of a mix. I thought a '72 should have had an up pipe running along the left side?

The earlier Pre70 version had the down pipe with s similiar style of engine although that engine seems to have the Scorpion RH engine side cover

The later VR series engine from '73 also had the down pipe as in Firko's post.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/Rickman_Montesa_250-73_1_zps45ce1993.jpg)
The '71-73 model had the pipe like above and a different frame engine cradle to the later 73-74 "Crinkle Cut" VR powered bike which had a low pipe (below).
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/ric-mont_zps2a4bb33e.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice Rickman Montesa ending tonight.
Post by: firko on March 03, 2013, 02:13:46 pm
Here's a late model "crinkle" 5/74 Rickman Monty frame on eBay
                                                                (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/KGrHqJhYE6eUoJM7BP63nEhfg60_12_zps5d927203.jpg)
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1970s-Rickman-Montesa-Nickel-Plated-Reynolds-531-Frame-/290859666477?hash=item43b8964c2d&item=290859666477&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1970s-Rickman-Montesa-Nickel-Plated-Reynolds-531-Frame-/290859666477?hash=item43b8964c2d&item=290859666477&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr)