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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: TM BILL on February 23, 2013, 04:44:23 pm
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I have approx 30+ unfinshed projects ::) thats just bikes ;D so whats the logical thing to do start another ::)
Hopefully posting progress on here may motivate me to finish somthing for a change :)
Plan is a pre 78 RM 125 , i know boring as batshit but the reality is i have a shed load of parts for these bikes . I was going to sell a lot of stuff off as parts but if i can build another bike and move it on at the end and get somone else out there involved thats got to be a good thing yes ???
Hopfully it will free up some money so i can finish some other projects ( yeah right ::))
If your a purist tune out now as it will be a mix match of parts and the odd 78 part may slip in there too :o cos over here were a bit more liberal ;)
I will dry build it first and then if budget allows strip and get painted , zinced etc
I will post pics of parts and progress as we go, seeing as most of the stuffs already in stock and i have no idea what it owes me i would be happy if you would put a value on each part as we go . Then at the end we can have a tally up and see what it owes (parts and out work only ) as labour is my own time , and see what it sells for and how much we have lost ;D
I will list parts and photos as we go and you can copy and add a value should you feel inclined :)
Dont be scared of offending me with values , as a black pom ive heard it all over the years
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Frame is an RM 125 A well used and had a few repairs and a spray bomb paint job $$ 75.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/RM125pre78project005_zpsc9d38b05.jpg)
RM 125A donor frame for brackets etc $$ 15.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/peforks001_zps01d28145.jpg)
PE 175C forks ( very simillar to RM 125B forks ) well used $$ 60.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/PRE%2078%20RM125%20project%20Motors/RM125pre78project009_zps30351e2e.jpg)
2 X RM 125B chambers ( will make a good one out of 2 ) $$ 30.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/RM125pre78project004_zpse1e9a11f.jpg)
TF 125 farm bike rear wheel , will use hub , same as RM 125 A /B $$ 30.00??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/TF001_zps5cc85680.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/TF002_zpsf07fb292.jpg)
TF 125 front wheel , will use hub same as RM 125B , and tyre $$ 45.00 ??
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Are ya gunna fit an alloy swingarm....hahuahahahahahaha :o :o ::) ::) ::) ;D ;) :D :o :o
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Only if i can
modify one oops :-[ i mean find a genuine optional one Ted ;D
I found this one , must be a prototype as they haven't put the brake lug on yet ;D $$ 100.00 ??
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this will great to follow, im colecting parts for a 125 b had one from new started my club racing on it in late 78 and 79
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Looking forward to seeing progress Bill 8) I love these threads.
So far I reckon you are up to about $17.50 ;D ;D ;D
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Sounds great Bill, keep us updated :-) You'll send that swingarm back to Japan for them to finish welding it of course ;-)
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(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/RM125fender001_zpsbed15a42.jpg)
Fibreglass rear fender , a mate had a mould made years ago ( before there was no option but NOS and pre Ebay ) this is a survivor $$ 25.00 ??
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Sounds great Bill, keep us updated :-) You'll send that swingarm back to Japan for them to finish welding it of course ;-)
I reckon it must be worth a motza John , being unfinished and all :)
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nice moto x fox tank
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Thanks Alec :) thats for yet another unfinished project ::) there will i dare say a number of unrelated parts making guest appearences through this thread ;D
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You want that parts book back yet? I still haven't heard back.
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You want that parts book back yet? I still haven't heard back.
When you have finished Ted :) no hurry this end .
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Tally so far
Frame / frames $90.00
Forks $60.00
Chambers $30.00
Rear hub $30.00
Front hub and tyre $45.00
Swinging arm $100.00
Rear fender $25.00
Total $380.00 ???
Its gonna make this one look cheap ;D
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=563691277
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(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/254713356_zpscd358d66.jpg)
Ok i have set a budget of $AU1500.00 $NZ 1850.00 :) the bike above sold for $NZ 1500.00 but it would have cost $NZ400.00 to get it shipped to me so the budget is set .
As i said it will be a dry build and then if theres money left it can get a tart up .
I scored a low hr RM125B motor complete with carb, cdi, coil , gear lever, sprocket cover for $350.00 . Will pull the head and clutch cover and check wear , but it will probably only get a paint job and maybe a set of rings at this stage .
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/PRE%2078%20RM125%20project%20Motors/004_zps06196cf3.jpg)
Frame rubbers, cdi bracket, brake backing plates and arms, front and rear axles , spacers adjusters etc ,engine plates , torque arm, chamber mount, chain buffer $50.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/003_zps100e2aa2.jpg)
Rear brake pedal with new pin fitted and NOS rear brake cable $50.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/005_zps9c7c5101.jpg)
Rm 125A swinging arm ( to replace aluminium arm ) $ 40.00 ??
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/001_zps7911673f.jpg)
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Tally so far
Frame / frames $90.00
Forks $60.00
Chambers $30.00
Rear hub $30.00
Front hub and tyre $45.00
Swinging arm $100.00
Rear fender $25.00
Frame rubbers, cdi bracket, brake backing plates and arms, front and rear axles , spacers adjusters etc ,engine plates , torque arm, chamber mount, chain buffer $50.00 ??
low hr RM125B motor complete with carb, cdi, coil , gear lever, sprocket cover for $350.00
Rear brake pedal with new pin fitted and NOS rear brake cable $50.00 ??
Rm 125A swinging arm ( to replace aluminium arm ) $ 40.00 ??
Total $770.00 ???
Its gonna make this one look cheap ;D
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=563691277
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Looks good Bill
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Be honest ......now list the prices you would sell the items for ;D
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Be honest ......now list the prices you would sell the items for ;D
Thats your Fullas job Stu ;D please put whatever price you think each part is worth in the current market .
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Are you including tow truck drivers rates for wages? $250hr.....lol
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Ok bit of progress :)
Stripped PE forks
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(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project1_zps8789e7b7.jpg)
One of the damper rod cap screws was rounded out so had to drill it out ::)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project2_zps78e13992.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project3_zps54140cdc.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project11_zps4c37d135.jpg)
Also mudguard bolts snapped off in triples , heat is your best friend ;D
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project13_zps27b610fa.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project15_zps803a334e.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project8_zps43cd8f5a.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project14_zps42df7470.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project10_zps74cb85a7.jpg)
Bit more gentle heat to ease fork seals out
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/rre78rm125project12_zps3d1d75cc.jpg)
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Blasted and cleaned up triples , will probably paint or powdercoat depending on budget .
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0093_zps943d7367.jpg)
Cleaned up fork lowers , but again will paint , powdercoat or reuse cleaned up yellow rubber fork boots .
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0043_zps4004ac43.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0083_zpse14a5c7c.jpg)
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Have ordered new fork seals , will srip the forks in my race RM 125B and replace a leaking seal . While their apart i will try to modify the PE internals to match the 125B internals . I have a stack of old rm forks so will see what we can match up .
Do need a pair of RM 125 B fork caps though ;D will buy or trade if somone has some :)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0073_zps6ce22fab.jpg)
I could use these DG caps at a push
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Frame had been altered at coil mounts and reat brake pedal adjuster so had to be put back as it should be using bits from donor frame .
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0023_zps76d278db.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/003_zps75f70452.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0024_zps3bb241e9.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0014_zps3abe2d8c.jpg)
TF 125 foot pegs were in stock and drilled out to accept 10mm pins , seem to do the job $30.00 ?
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0013_zps0bae2675.jpg)
I had these pins turned up for rear brake pedals years ago , just grind off old weld and remove worn pin , press in replacement and reweld :) Pin $10.00 ?
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/0042_zpsf29eabfd.jpg)
Redrill frame to fit new pin 13mm and jobs a gooden ;D
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Jesus blackboy, does Vale know you have her best towell and sheet covered in Pure Enduro (PE) parts?....hows the fisherman?....good project....
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Now come on Joan , you know we borrowed those sheets and towels from the motel on our road trip last time you were here ;D
Seeing as Stewys not playing the game i need you to audit the project , be honest what are the parts worth ???
Tally so far
Frame / frames $90.00
Forks $60.00
Chambers $30.00
Rear hub $30.00
Front hub and tyre $45.00
Swinging arm $100.00
Rear fender $25.00
Frame rubbers, cdi bracket, brake backing plates and arms, front and rear axles , spacers adjusters etc ,engine plates , torque arm, chamber mount, chain buffer $50.00 ??
low hr RM125B motor complete with carb, cdi, coil , gear lever, sprocket cover for $350.00
Rear brake pedal with new pin fitted and NOS rear brake cable $50.00 ??
Rm 125A swinging arm ( to replace aluminium arm ) $ 40.00 ??
Footpegs $30.00 ??
Rear brake pin $10.00 ??
Total $810.00
Its gonna make this one look cheap
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=563691277
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Air box made one good one out of too
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre%2078%20RM%20125%20frame%20and%20forks/RM125pre78project002_zps8013960b.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/002_zpsecc36c88.jpg)
Sealed up joint before riveting back together
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/003_zpse7ea779b.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/005_zps556df04c.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/004_zpsbf7e13cc.jpg)
Trying Stewy Oldfarts tip to soften air boot in brake fluid ??? will report on results
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Airbox complete with cage $50.00 ??
Tanks Hmmmmmmmmmm had this one in stock, i asume it belonged to the Fat man ;D
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/004_zpsc1c7efa7.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/006_zpsd3026dd8.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/005_zpsccb5e40d.jpg)
Stripped it back and i think the fat man had sat on the bugger :-[
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/009_zpsbd60ebfd.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/010_zps3e5af888.jpg)
So i guess i will be trying my panel beating skills ::) Past experience has shown that as a panel beater i make a great underwater flagpole painter :-[
Very ordinary RM 125B tank with cap and tap $120.00 ??
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I do have this one in stock :) but this is a budget build so this will go back on the shelf ;D
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/015_zps3e24e163.jpg)
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/016_zps52be8fcc.jpg)
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Because its in Pacific Peso's and not a currency of value it puts a different light on things...you kiwi's do have a sport thats low on numbers and that reflects on the value of your bikes/parts [cheap as chups lucky buggers]....now as long as you dont solicit for any sexual favors (keep Lizzie Taylor away unless he fronts with some NOS parts...then and only then you can watch him and maRc.com going at it......no pictures please....this is a family show). I guess your on the money, maybe a little cheep on some parts but then your there and I'm not....and I've been privvy too your parts warehouse tour so know you have alot in stock...I guess with write downs and depreciation your probably close too the mark....dont forget the $2 rattle cans, consumables, beer/tea/curry pies/chups/V/panadols ( when it get tuff), internet time, carbon tax, import tax, maori tax, GST and anything else you think you should be giving....hopefully it doesnt blow the buget. Look forward to the next eppisode...cheers.
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Sorted through some old side panels and found a donor pair
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/008_zps72ab6871.jpg)
Started to clean up , will never be great but will probably paint anyway :)
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A Vintage iron front board may do the job :-\
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/tmbill/RM%20125%20pre%2078%20project/Pre78%20RM125%20plastics%20and%20tanks/002_zpscc0146ee.jpg)
Secondhand plastic replica rear fender to replace the fibreglass one
New Tony D knock off front fender
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Side panels $30.00 ??
Rear fender $30.00 ??
Front fender $50.00 ??
Tally so far
Frame / frames $90.00
Forks $60.00
Chambers $30.00
Rear hub $30.00
Front hub and tyre $45.00
Swinging arm $100.00
fibreglass Rear fender $25.00
Frame rubbers, cdi bracket, brake backing plates and arms, front and rear axles , spacers adjusters etc ,engine plates , torque arm, chamber mount, chain buffer $50.00 ??
low hr RM125B motor complete with carb, cdi, coil , gear lever, sprocket cover for $350.00
Rear brake pedal with new pin fitted and NOS rear brake cable $50.00 ??
Rm 125A swinging arm ( to replace aluminium arm ) $ 40.00 ??
Airbox and cage $50.00 ??
Footpegs $30.00 ??
Rear brake pin $10.00 ??
Side panels $30.00 ??
Plastic rear fender $30.00 ??
New front fender $50.00 ??
Total $945.00
Still need to source
Seat
Alloy rims
Rear tyre , tube etc
Rear sprocket
Chain
Throttle , Clutch and Fr brake Cables (new )
Throttle assembly
Handlebars , levers
Grips (new )
Air filter element (new )
Fork seals (new )
Gear and fork oil (New)
Rear shocks
Chain guide
kickstart
Muffler
Assorted fasteners and springs
Brake shoes (new)
Wheel bearings (New )
Fuel line and filter ( new )
Taper steering head bearings (new) if budget allows
F and R spoke sets (new ) if budget allows yeah right ;D
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Because its in Pacific Peso's and not a currency of value it puts a different light on things...you kiwi's do have a sport thats low on numbers and that reflects on the value of your bikes/parts [cheap as chups lucky buggers]....now as long as you dont solicit for any sexual favors (keep Lizzie Taylor away unless he fronts with some NOS parts...then and only then you can watch him and maRc.com going at it......no pictures please....this is a family show). I guess your on the money, maybe a little cheep on some parts but then your there and I'm not....and I've been privvy too your parts warehouse tour so know you have alot in stock...I guess with write downs and depreciation your probably close too the mark....dont forget the $2 rattle cans, consumables, beer/tea/curry pies/chups/V/panadols ( when it get tuff), internet time, carbon tax, import tax, maori tax, GST and anything else you think you should be giving....hopefully it doesnt blow the buget. Look forward to the next eppisode...cheers.
Joan,Please leave me out of your sexual fantasies, unless you feel like another "golden beer shower" upon your next trip....
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I've seen you in action you homo.....speaking of homo's....did you pop over for the Mardi Gra on the weekend?
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**Thread Hi-Jack Please Dont Read If abusive language is not your bag**
Dearest Joan,
Thankyou for your lovely retort,and sadly no I wasnt able to make the mardi gras -where I believe you had a starring role as the gimp this year ;D
For the record if your reference points for Homosexual tendenacies are limp wristed behaviour,then I am afraid given your actions
over the last 12 months,you are the clear winner of the title of Camp Queer.
FYI it wasnt me who fell asleep at the table, (after consuming two lemon lime and bitters)at the Johnny Old prize giving but you!
Thread Hi-jack over.
Bill keep the build details coming its great!!
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Hey Bill, Get a flash for that camera ;)
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I love the step my step close up detail photos bill ;) there will be may beady eyes watching this project.
It reminds me of G I posts with his close up detail photos a while back ;)
Keep up the good work......
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Billy Boy .....mig weld a nut onto those threads next time , nut slips over thread and fill it up with rod. Works every time ;)
That air boot will take about a week to soften up.
I have just done an audit and I have notice the prices you are posting are more in line with the resto ;D keep up the good work.
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Dont know why the photos are dissapeering ???
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hows the budget rm coming along bill
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Hi Bill,
can I have an update on the air boot softening
Noel
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Dodge i got side tracked will update next week :)
Noel i will check on it and report back , hope its worked as its been in the fluid since i stared this thread ;D
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Noel the brake fluid test sort of worked ??? it has made the boot supple ( its usable now ) but not as supple as a new one .
I will try again with another boot in some fresh brake fluid over a 7 day period and report back .
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Bill ... If it's rock hard when soak it , you will only get about 50% of it's softness back .
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Bill ... If it's rock hard when soak it , you will only get about 50% of it's softness back .
I would rather rock hard over a softee ;D
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Bill ... If it's rock hard when soak it , you will only get about 50% of it's softness back .
Definetly an improvement over how it was Stu :) it was rock hard and is now very usable :)
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Bill ... If it's rock hard when soak it , you will only get about 50% of it's softness back .
I would rather rock hard over a softee ;D
Yeah, we'll don't get any older then ;)
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Your a sick puppy