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Clubroom => Bike Talk => Topic started by: ty4 on January 13, 2013, 02:58:24 pm
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EDC maybe ?? and no, rusty will not help ;D
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/ty4album/SAM_0069_zpse8191d4c.jpg)
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt18/ty4album/SAM_0068_zps5b01f220.jpg)
cheers
tony
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Hodaka wombat??
http://strictlyhodaka.com/market2/index.php?ct=moto&md=details&id=630&lrgphp=1&lnph=2& (http://strictlyhodaka.com/market2/index.php?ct=moto&md=details&id=630&lrgphp=1&lnph=2&)
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Is "Bassani" too obvious?
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Not Bassani Nathan they were never that angular plus it is too far out from the rear sub frame . EDC I doubt it they were nice and tucked in to the frame as well .
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Also its too low over the kick starter . I'd say its from something other than a yamaha and been bodgied to fit .
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can't tuck into the frame because they put a brace right where the pipe needs to go when they layed the shocks forward
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Insert QuoteIs "Bassani" too obvious ?
I'm with Iain, I think it may be one of the Aussie made pipes that popped up everywhere in the early 70's. I forget most of the brands but Denco was one, Trail and Track loved 'em, called 'em Power Pipes whether they made power or not ;D. I've got something similar (but not identical) hidden away somewhere in the garden shed.
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The header section of that pipe looks very much like the standard Yammie
pipe to me. I'll suggest it's a home made special.
Looks orright to me...
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eltham dirt bikes use to make pipes for early yamahas
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What stops it being a Bassani that's either from a different bike, or compromised by the lay-down shock mod?
As best as I can see, the heat shield and general construction are very similar to the way Bassani made their pipes - maybe it is a "Bassani copy", but how do you pick it as not the real thing?
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(http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/m612/Iain_Cameron/IMG_0325-1.jpg)
the pipe on this bike was an after market built in Vic it was a copy of the bassani though check out the thickness of the mufler , Ive had a couple of them and the tail section was a lot thinner .
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Here's a rusted out Bassani....http://www.ebay.com/itm/300844114019?item=300844114019&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&cmd=ViewItem&hash=item460bb4e063&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/300844114019?item=300844114019&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&cmd=ViewItem&hash=item460bb4e063&vxp=mtr)
and another better one...... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bassani-Exhaust-Muffler-1969-1973-Yamaha-DT1-DT2-DT3-RT1-RT2-RT3-DT1MX-AHRMA-/400333131653?item=400333131653&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&cmd=ViewItem&vxp=mtr&hash=item5d35b6cf85&nma=true&si=ZSavZEybKWntY9YUliyKGTnt9WY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bassani-Exhaust-Muffler-1969-1973-Yamaha-DT1-DT2-DT3-RT1-RT2-RT3-DT1MX-AHRMA-/400333131653?item=400333131653&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&cmd=ViewItem&vxp=mtr&hash=item5d35b6cf85&nma=true&si=ZSavZEybKWntY9YUliyKGTnt9WY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557)
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/bikepics-1704498-full_zps6b98be41.jpg)
Close, but my dough is still on a locally made copy 'power pipe'.
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I'd say EDC mated to std Yam header. Looks like it has no centre-section (parallel-sided) which was one of the distinctive features of the EDC.
Has the same overall shape & construction as EDC too, but original EDC header was very diff, as per pipe on #10X (that whole pipe looks to me like EDC, but w slightly shorter heat shield).
But rear mount bracket has been relocated to attach to original top shock mount instead of that hole a few inches further back
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I'd say EDC mated to std Yam header.
I reckon you're right on the moolah John. I was looking for a photo of an Eltham Dirt Centre power pipe before I made comment. All I'm sure of is that it's not a Bassani. Did John Burrows have something to do with EDC? If not it may be another pipe that he made/marketed.
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thanks for the replies fellas...time to try and loosen some rust ;D
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EDC aka Eltham Dirt Bikes. Looks same as a CT175 one hanging in my shed. Firko , John Burrows was not a part of that business as far as I remember. Two brothers owned and ran it.(notice the old age stopping the name memory...) Just open any early Trail and track mag for the peoples name . ;)and to add insult to injury I grew up in Diamond St. Eltham..... ::) Cheers Tim754 ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR the Geer or Gear Brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If my spotty memory has not faded compleatly didn't John Burrows have his business in high st Malvern , Ossa Im sorta sure ????
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One shop down from the corner of High St and Glenferrie Rd in Malvern. John and his brother ran the shop, good blokes and willing to help out anyone. I had bought my KTM from Athol Patterson in Springvale and my Maicos from Stacker in Bell St Heidelberg. My sister worked for the solicitors just around the corner from John's shop and had done some conveyancing for him. Even though hadn't bought a bike from him he helped me out a couple of times when I had some mechanical probs as a young fellow in sub juniors and mum had taken me to the races. Don't think that is around too much nowadays.
Rosco86
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The creaking old wood floor in that tiny shop in Malvern
John sold a heap of the first GTR350 twin Bridgestone out of their plus the Ossa brand
The SDR brought over here in WA off Gumtree had a Burrows shop sticker still on the side plate .
Cheers
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I used to like his "ask John " in trail and track .
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what is the go with these EDC pipes on the good - bad scale. where do they sit? i have one on a going bike . I have not tried another pipe yet so have nothing to compare it to. I was going to tweak it for a project, any feed back would be great.
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My only knowledge of them is a T&T dyno article comparing EDC, Peacemaker, Basani, Hooker & std Yam pipes on a std RT3. I've never used one but T&T concluded it won on both performance & low noise:
"The object was to find the best pipe for the serious trail-cum-enduro rider. This meant weighing up flexibility against top-end against noise against price... there can be no doubt about the winner. EDC pipe is number one by a mile... It has the most power down low, mid range, & up top"
It peaked at 6000rpm & dropped away quickly after that, but made more horses at 6000 than the US pipes did at 7000 (their peak). MUCH better in mid range, in fact from 3000 to 6500.
Only thing it was rather fat in mid-section
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My only knowledge of them is a T&T dyno article comparing EDC, Peacmaker, Basani, Hooker Yam pipes on a std RT3. I've never used one but T&T concluded it won on both performance & low noise:
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=23748.msg270394;topicseen#msg270394 (http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=23748.msg270394;topicseen#msg270394)
You've tugged at my fast fading memory John ;D....as much as T&T used to shit me no end, they often produced some worthy stuff. I've got that issue somewhere here and remember thinking at the time that they should have tested a standard GYT pipe as a comparison base. I also thought I had an EDT pipe here but it's something different again. It's very well made, much better than the often shoddy standards of the time. I've just reveived a Jemco downpipe for my 360 flat tracker and it sure looks the goods. As soon as I can sort my camera/computer download problem I'll run off soime snaps and post it and one or two of the mystery pipe to see if any of the old hands might recognise it.
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Here's a trio of DT1/RT1 aftermarket pipes I have...........
I've actually got three Torque Industries pipes, a DT1 pipe like that in the photo below, another for an RT2MX and one for my little Suzuki TS90. I don't know if they produce the performance gains they claimed but they're definitely the best finished and most well tucked in of the DT1 pipes.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/DT1Torqueindpipe_zps4abd6076.jpg)
This is a Bassani identical to mine. They were the most popular along with EDT pipes back in the day.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/BASSANI_zpsc5c33a26.jpg)
Below: My Cheney RT1 has a Pro-Form pipe made for a YZ360A that I had to cut and shut to fit the Cheney airbox tunnel. Even though it's a tad modern looking, it suits the Cheney layout perfectly and is a beautifully made bit of kit.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/CHENEY360FIRKO_zps8f9d9e42.jpg)
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thanks jc. next questions - did they make the same pipe for dt and rt. has anyone spotted any difference between dt and rt pipes with other makers. i think i have read in other posts there is no difference between the gyt pipes.
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I'd think they'd be the same pipe for DT as RT which may mean the power peak on the 250 would be at lower rpm than you'd expect/like for a 250. The US pipes maybe better on 250's w power peak at higher rpm.