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Title: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 28, 2012, 10:07:47 am
I have no info on the rider or the bike........I just like this photo of the rider having some fun up in the loose stuff. You've got to love the safety fence, no Speedways Act there ;D.
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Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: Graeme M on December 28, 2012, 10:42:50 am
That IS a great shot. Reminds me of that iconic photo from the 70s of Rex Beauchamp.

(http://goodsparkgarage.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/crossed_rex.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: Graeme M on December 28, 2012, 10:46:20 am
When I went hunting for that Beauchamp photo I came across these as well. Nice!

Alex Jorgensen:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1185/4522714/20286096/398276763.jpg)

Scott Parker:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1185/4522714/20286096/383451881.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 28, 2012, 11:08:30 am
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Alex Jorgensen:
Jorgy was my absolute favourite on the trick as shit Ron Wood Norton. I regularly went to Ascot Speedway in the 70's and during that era he and the Norton ruled that place.
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I like these shots......
                                                        (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/2004Fresno_7394StMain_zps0e67852b.jpg)
                                                        (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/2000-4upVallejo_zps930e1b79.jpg)
                                                        (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/2004Fresno_7143Jethro_zpsce715ae1.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: KB171 on December 28, 2012, 02:58:42 pm
Thats hangin it out there  8)
(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii576/KAB171/dirt-track-motorcycle-race-sideburn_zpsac0246e6.jpg)
WFO  8)
(http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii576/KAB171/tumblr_lv8yztGPf61r2qkgjo1_500_zpsee12295f.jpg)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: EML on December 28, 2012, 03:16:46 pm
Firko, the guy that has the import shop at Seaford said he went to the US with Norton in the early 70's to super tune them so Norton could hold market share there.
He seemed to know a lot about those very fast dirt trackers and the road racers too.
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 28, 2012, 04:14:55 pm
John Kocinski tippin' it in on the very trick Ron Woods Rotax vintage racer. Check out the rear suspension.
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                                                                             (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/2-1_zps70bb3816.jpg)                                                         
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: tony27 on December 28, 2012, 04:43:45 pm
That looks like 2 different bikes, you can see the shocks on the top bike. Both cool looking bikes though
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: Purple Dave on December 28, 2012, 07:26:23 pm
The Yanks LOOK COOL..........but we Aussies can also ride RIGHT HANDERS, they Can't......Aussie Dirt Track Forever !! ;D
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: cemotobull on December 28, 2012, 07:43:04 pm
And we can surf better right handers, go parko!
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 28, 2012, 10:56:03 pm
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That looks like 2 different bikes, you can see the shocks on the top bike. Both cool looking bikes though
Correctomundo Tony....The action shot is Kocinski on his Knight framed CR250 Honda powered 250 classer. Good power of observation my friend ;).
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                                                                     (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/2011-0402-CA-Pro-Ride-John-Kocinski-PHOTO-A-bike_zpscc57e3e0.jpg)
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The Yanks LOOK COOL..........but we Aussies can also ride RIGHT HANDERS, they Can't......Aussie Dirt Track Forever !! 
Maybe Dave but I reckon the bloke on #3 above might have proved he can turn right occasionally with his 1990 World 250 GP Championship and 1997 World Superbike Championship wins. Wayne Rainey, Eddie Lawson, Randy Mammola, Kevin Shwantz and Bubba Shobert all turned left on the dirt before showing us all that they can also turn right on the road race circuits.
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 28, 2012, 11:09:18 pm
Yep Firko, The Yanks can turn right !! TT has at least one right hander plus a bloody jump.
In the early '70s the AMA #1 plate was earned by competing in five disciplines, Dirt Track ( Flat Track ), Short Track, TT, Scrambles and Road Racing, I'm not sure when it changed.
Foss
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 28, 2012, 11:28:54 pm
True Foss.....TT scrambles is very much like our version of dirt track with a right hander except the Americans make it a bit more skillful and interesting by including a jump. I'm not sure when the #1 plates became individual plates instead of all in like you describe. Possibly the early 80's ???.
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: jimg1au on December 29, 2012, 07:12:09 am
firko you left out kenny roberts and a lot more
i have a frame at home just like the 1 that bubba shobert rode in 1974 for 125 or 250 2t
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 07:55:37 am
Hey, Firko, wasn't there a piccy of Dave Aldana on a Grasstracker in the UK somewhere ??
Foss
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 08:04:07 am
Hey, Firko, wasn't there a piccy of Dave Aldana on a Grasstracker in the UK somewhere ??
Foss

Yup, there is , from sideburn ,1979 and on a Godden, too Slider 29, here 'tis
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab106/JAP454/ALDANA1979.jpg)
Foss



Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: steve234 on December 29, 2012, 09:02:38 am
Here is Kocinski at Perris raceway on the 2 banger,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5h0zy-esQk
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 09:39:03 am
Here's some good footage from '88, Shobert V Parker, the prang after the jump in the Peoria TT Steeplechase footage was where Aussie Luke Gough came undone bigtime earlier this year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRDz7vusQxA
Foss
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: steve234 on December 29, 2012, 09:55:22 am
Here is another cool yank track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTaxfiEFqa4
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 10:11:33 am
Here is another cool yank track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTaxfiEFqa4

TOP STUFF, Steve, Much as I would like to have a skid around the Perris short track, Medina would do me !!!
Foss
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 29, 2012, 10:26:09 am
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firko you left out kenny roberts and a lot more
Ooops Kenny was an obvious one I overlooked Jim, I just pulled 'em out of my half pissed 11 pm memory. There were a shitload more right turn Yanks that we missed and Purple Dave didn't consider good enough ::).
Mark Brelsford, Dick Mann, Dave Aldana, Gary Nixon....yada, yada, yada, the list goes on.
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: Stan S on December 29, 2012, 11:08:08 am
I know this has been on here before but you sparked my interest when King Kenny was mentioned.

Stan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k8hJWKIVNs
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 29, 2012, 11:22:45 am
Right turns?
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Here is another cool yank track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTaxfiEFqa4
True Foss, Medina's a very cool track, about as close to out kind of dirt track as you'll get. Interesting that there's no jump, they must have an option, or it might have been dropped from the discipline.
                                                                                   


                                                                                      (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/tt-track_zps106756b4.png)
                                                                                         The right turn at the Holister Ca TT track         
                                                             (http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k495/firko2/122-1108-01-oama-flat-track-returns-to-washington-state_JPG_zps0b385aa4.jpg)
                                                                                     Turning right at the Castle Rock, Washington TT
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 29, 2012, 11:39:50 am
How about Cambridge Minnesota for some helmet cam TT action. Great track, just like we run.
                                                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26Fpp9zarw  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v26Fpp9zarw)
or a bad bingle on a TT with a jump.
                                                      http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/19/1560/5/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Terrible-Peoria-TT-Flat-Track-Crash-Video.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/19/1560/5/Motorcycle-Blog-Post/Terrible-Peoria-TT-Flat-Track-Crash-Video.aspx)

Peoria Ill with two jumps and a right       
                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfprLaU3oVs  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfprLaU3oVs)

great helmet cam of Kyle Goughenour showing us how to ride a half mile fast.
                                                     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZQZpWGz4hw   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZQZpWGz4hw)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: EML on December 29, 2012, 12:05:03 pm
Recent night time dirt track at Nudgee had a jump to make it interesting spec for the side cars
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 12:33:03 pm
True Foss, Medina's a very cool track, about as close to out kind of dirt track as you'll get. Interesting that there's no jump, they must have an option, or it might have been dropped from the discipline.

Firko, from what I can gather there are two versions of TT, Steeplechase, with jump and GP, without. I may be wrong , but that seems to be the case. It may be a regional thing.
Foss
                                                                                   


                                                                                     
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: Slider29 on December 29, 2012, 12:37:34 pm
 The Medina track looks fabulous. If it ain't oiled whats keeping the dust down. Nice bit of loose stuff on top as well.
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 12:55:55 pm
And here's Aussie rider Luke Gough's big one at Peoria
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lQ3NOywgYg
Foss
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 29, 2012, 02:13:54 pm
Here's a rough scan of the bike that Barry Briggs rode at the Houston Astrodome indoor short track track back in 1970. To me it looks to be a Jawa long tracker frame with the Yamaha TD2 road race motor. It's weird and a bit rough looking but it must have stirred up the Yanks at the time ;D  Here's a rare film of the racing showing Briggo # 70 at that event. Check out the stars he was up against. http://www.speedwayplus.com/BriggoHouston.shtml  (http://www.speedwayplus.com/BriggoHouston.shtml)
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Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: steve234 on December 29, 2012, 02:45:30 pm
How's that crash at preoria! N0. 55 does well to weave throughout it!

Nudgee TT was good. The set up looked great with a hair pin at the end of the straight into the jump, a 90 degree right hander into a sweeper that linked into pit corner. Whilst Darcy Ward was under gunned on a 250f he was more sideways than anyone and looked like he was having fun. Lets hope we get some more of it in the future.

Meanwhile Action Park Raceway has been completely ripped and turned over and harrowed with a good splattering of oil added, regraded to take out the few low points that held water and is looking to be in great shape for 2013. The hairpin at the end of the sweeper has a larger diameter with a slight camber added which should allow some quicker cornering.
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: firko on December 29, 2012, 03:04:41 pm
Check out thre great action from Springfield with Sammy Halbert... Those Yanks sure are soft cocks ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgpm23D6jv8&feature=endscreen  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgpm23D6jv8&feature=endscreen)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 04:28:02 pm
Bloody hell !! no place at Springfield  for the faint hearted Eh ?? back to Briggo, here's a couple of shots

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab106/JAP454/Briggo.jpg)

Top pic , Briggo rounding up Mert Lawill and Dick Mann at Santa Fe, Chicago
Bottom, Briggo leads at the Astrodome.
He had to fit a saddle type tank to conform to AMA rules
Foss
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: EML on December 29, 2012, 07:01:43 pm
Looks  like Mert is glancing right and thinking , what the fork is that silly kiwi doin out there..???:-)
Title: Re: Cool dirt track photo
Post by: JAP 454 on December 29, 2012, 07:36:23 pm
Looks  like Mert is glancing right and thinking , what the fork is that silly kiwi doin out there..???:-)
An' Buggsy don't look real pleased , either !!
Foss