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Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: albrid-3 on November 25, 2012, 08:24:13 am
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The other day, I was putting photo`s up on my facebook and Daryl Beatties Page, and Az Mike`s Page, and seeing Jim Ellis being inducted to the hall of fame, and started thinking why hasn`t Australia got a
Hall of fame for the History of Motocross, speedway, Trials, Enduro, Rally Cross,Road Racing,Short Circuit, here in Australia, or does it. ????? But we don`t know about it.
Well I think there should be a venue here to comemorates all Australian Champions and the workers behind the seens.
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You mean why hasn't MA done what it is suppose to do? Thats a bit like asking why NSW has no MA facilities
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Thats Right, why hasn`t MA done this years ago, It shouldn`t be at the MA office either, to small. MA, MV its a priority owed to Australia motorcycle History,and Riders, Volunteers, clubs, throughout Australia.
Look what footballers get for their efforts from the AFL, and they just play with their balls.
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MA didn't even have lists of OZ champs.
You left Short Circuit ( DT ) out Dave, it was just as big if not bigger in OZ during the 60's - 70's.
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MA, MV, did have records of past history, but some of it was distroyed in a fire.
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Can't help feeling if it did exist it would be a shell of an accurate representation like the AMA equivalent, where plenty of hangers-on, helpers and never-was associates of those in positions of influence have been swept into the list at the expense of legendary racers with far more legitimate claims to inclusion.
In my opinion...
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The other day, I was putting photo`s up on my facebook and Daryl Beatties Page, and Az Mike`s Page, and seeing Jim Ellis being inducted to the hall of fame, and started thinking why hasn`t Australia got a
Hall of fame for the History of Motocross, speedway, Trials, Enduro, Rally Cross,Road Racing,Short Circuit, here in Australia, or does it. ????? But we don`t know about it.
Well I think there should be a venue here to comemorates all Australian Champions and the workers behind the seens.
COZ M.A COULDN'T GIVE A RATS ARSE !!! Road oriented administration .
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COZ M.A COULDN'T GIVE A RATS ARSE !!! Road oriented administration
You betcha.......the only dirt they ever think about is on their company supplied SUV just they hire some poor car wash bloke to clean it.
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So who would you nominate for the MA hall of fame? Here's my contribution (I''m sure you true blue Aussies will have lots more to add):
Stoner
Doohan
Gardner
Curruthers
Findley
Lewis
Reed
Watts
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Right on Goof, M.A. would honour and praise their office bearers and committee's before they would honour the riders they represent....
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So who would you nominate for the MA hall of fame? Here's my contribution (I''m sure you true blue Aussies will have lots more to add):
Stoner
Doohan
Gardner
Curruthers
Findley
Lewis
Reed
Watts
Crump snr
Crump jnr
McFarlane
Leask
W Willing
The list can go on ..
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Short Circuit - Herb Jefferson, Kevin Fraser, Keith Davies, Bill MacDonald, Chris Watson, Paul Caslick.
Speedway - Lionel Van Praag, Bluey Wilkinson, Jack Young, Jason Crump, Chris Holder.
And plenty more that wouldn't be out of place.
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Roy East, Kelvin Franks (look him up), Jason Crump, Jack Young, Geoff Ballard, Steve Gall, Shane Watts and the usual road racing suspects.
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To me the list should include guys like Geoff Eldridge and Tony Kirby for their contributions through media as well as John Hederics for his contributions to the long distance aspect of the sport.
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Also Ray fisher, Ray Owen and Andy Caldecott too...
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Sorry this is just my rant.
Well wanted to before to late give a Lifetime Achievement Award and Honour Ray and Pat Owen at this 2012 Years MX 70's Honda Elsinore Re-Union Barf and I and Frank and all the Bike contributors at HBBB,
as for this Golden couple married over 50 years that selflessly gave up 54 acres of their own farm land, and made the greatest Aussie MX Track via Survey in the 70's WALLAN.
Both that has done so much for motorcycling in Aus, they dont exists in MA's eye's.
Ned alone Rays Incredible Grass Track and Scramble
the following was my interview questions to Ray at Broadford this Year, You make up your own mind , my problem is I haven’t heard anything positive to the masses about MA, for a long time, yes they have a difficult job in administrating, but the balance is so wrong, the MX / Off-Road in all forms would contribute at least 80% of their's which is ours Revenue.
The worst thing they are not in touch with the common people, who bleed, ride, think and love the sport.
They can take the and have done the easiest approach, do their own Shit.
When was the last time MA and would they ever done a survey on what we think is wrong with under democratic process, not F----G Board Meetings nurturing their own Egos that they are doing a good job.
Could you imagine a booth set up at State Rounds of any discipline, to hear and listen to the people, and get it back to the monthly’s and at least discuss, all things now and the future. Not just a few Mates or Back pocket Opinions.
Don’t make the mistake, of barking at everyone our sport is founded on mostly volunteers , but those that are paid and paid well, don’t seem to be accountable, and nothing will change, when they are not , including all the way to the Top.
Get together sign a petition, do club emails anything to wake up or piss them off with lack of their conscience.
OUR 2 WHEEL SPORT WILL ALWAYS LIVE BECAUSE:
Love is why we do it.
Passion is because we are obsessed.
Heart is what we all have.
RESPECT we all DESEREVE.
Below is a link to give you and idea.
http://www.motorsportretro.com/2012/01/2012-honda-hbbb/
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Done forget what started this great passion we have for a small word called scrambles, the true era, our fathers, fathers sons, mates, done forget, the 50`s men like ken Rumble, Ray Fisher, Brian Clarke, done forget 60`s riders, Keith Stacker, Bill Brown, Ed Landcaster, Neville Palmer, John Boag, John Armstrong, Gary Flood, Trevor Flood, Gary O`Brien, Brian Fisher, Clarry Jones, Dennis Alsop, Gary Adams, Jeff Wooky, Roger Laycock, Sid Christian, Geoff Taylor, Ivan Miller, Bert Flood, Lyall O`Brien, John Burrows, Al Patterson, Frank Mussett, Karl Morlang, Mick Nicoll, Per Klitland, Greg Leaney, their are lots more, then their was us, me, you, him, mates, its just go`s on. where has all the money gone and swallowed up on ???, 2012 their should be a RSL type of a building built for us to meet and greet, have a drink, bikes on display, and the history of our sport plastered all over it.
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Rosco you are on the money,the wankers at city hall/MA will come and go while joe punter rides bikes forever.Do what Unzud did go on your own then your money is your money to spend on your hobby/sport.Your only overheads are paying the farmer for land for the day,ambulance and Insurance.
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I,m sure like some people here we could write pages on the mismanagement of our sport. The one thing that can not be defeated is the type of person who gravitate to position's of power within MA. They are and always will be megalomaniacs.
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Two comments.
1/ NOBODY so far mentioned Jack Ahearn, How many self funded privateers finished runner up to a Senior World Championship road race series?
2/ The positions in M.A., MNSW, and YOUR club are filled by people We all select through our club meetings through nominations and election.
Take an interest in who's who and who does SFA and who does things for the good of the sport.
Thats my rant on this sweltering day.
Cheers.
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Back to the point.
Possibly the way to get the ball rolling on the 'Hall of Fame' issue might be to start off with each State starting their own.
I will start discussion on this at our first club general meeting (CPMCC) in the new year.
I reckon if our NZUD cousins do the same thing through their clubs they will have a National list in no time.
It should not be too difficult for the local controlling body to find a small committee of 3 or 5 knowlagible souls to vet nominations from clubs.
On the subject of record holders, the old A.C.U. rules book put out by the old Auto Cycle Council of Australia had a list of every national and state title holder back to the year dot. They still should have!
If anyone can find one of the old rule books that would be a start.
I must have a look through my old stuff.
cheers pancho.
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On the subject of record holders, the old A.C.U. rules book put out by the old Auto Cycle Council of Australia had a list of every national and state title holder back to the year dot. They still should have!
09 book
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/HOF-1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/HOF-2.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/HOF-3.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a393/gmcloa/Misc%20bike%20stuff/HOF-4.jpg)
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Well there you go!
Now we need the rest. Short Circuit, Scrambles, trials and all the State Title holders, Plus OZ genious tuners, designers & developers plus all the long term dedicated officials and the occasional promoters.
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I'll jump in here and probably display my ignorance but who is Heinz Platacis?
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Endurance road racer Mark . same as Peter Goddard
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I knew that existed and stubbled on it ,only through the Yearly MA Competition Rules books I recieved when running the Race Teams, but the point is , why this subjet came up, is NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT!
Have you ever heard of a MA Black Tie Hall of Fame Night?
Have you ever seen it advertsied?
Have you ever heard of any of the past Winners talk about I WON and was Inducted in to the MA HALL OF SHAME ?
The answer is No, never seen it or has there been any Magazine time or Web Time, except those in the Inner Sanctum.
And to MA, why havent these Champions been Celebrated on the Year and Night,when you were giving Hall of Fame Awards?
The Australian Motorcycling Community wants to be Involved and Your Members.
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good to see a Kiwi stefan in the list probably a cosey old boys nz/ auz thing
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Endurance road racer Mark . same as Peter Goddard
Is he an Aussie or is he one of Bazza's Kiwi's?