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Marque Remarks => Suzuki => Topic started by: Ktm181 on September 13, 2012, 07:40:27 pm
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G'day gents, does anyone have a RM465 conrod (new) they no longer need? For that matter can an RM500 rod be used in its place? I gather that a Ktm 360/380 rod will fit the 500 but can it be made to fit the 465???? I am in the market to buy both 465 and 500 rod if anybody wants to sell one, pistons too for that matter.
Also, will a 500 barrel fit onto 465 bottom end and with what mods if any? Help!!
any help appreciated,
Kt
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http://www.ebay.com/sch/items/%20Suzuki%20RM%20500%20pistons
Heaps on here, I got my stsndard new piston from the states for about 150 delivered. ;D
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Kiwi land
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/clutch-gearboxes/auction-513254813.htm
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Yep the RM500 was a bored out 465. Stroke is the same.
RM465 bore X stroke = 86.0 x 80
RM500 " " = 88.5 x 80
If KTM rods fit, then your laughen. If not, Ron Anchak might have a handfull of NOS ConRods left for sale. Well he did have a few months back.
Ron is at - [email protected]
I am learning now that Suzy DR500 conrods are also finished/extinct. Anyone know of where there is DR500 conrods?
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All good info men, thanks heaps.
Great minds think alike! I sent Anchak and sons an email earlier today! I really want to find a rod! I have a piston coming now. I wonder if the 465 can be safely bored to the standard 500 size without splitting the bore, i doubt it, although you never know! I might ring old mate Ponsey and see if he remembers what he did to Beetle's, if i remember right it was STROKED and bored at one time, i know it was a rocket against mine, but i think in the end it was around 490cc via stroke only. Serco also tell me they still use Maico 490 pistons, they sent me some specs today, once i get a 465 piston i will compare and tell all!
cheers,
Kt
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The rm465 conrod has a different diameter bigend pin to the rm500 but the hole centre measurement is the same you can put a complete rm465 crankshaft into a rm500 bottom end and it will work.
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All good info men, thanks heaps.
Great minds think alike! I sent Anchak and sons an email earlier today! I really want to find a rod! I have a piston coming now. I wonder if the 465 can be safely bored to the standard 500 size without splitting the bore, i doubt it, although you never know! I might ring old mate Ponsey and see if he remembers what he did to Beetle's, if i remember right it was STROKED and bored at one time, i know it was a rocket against mine, but i think in the end it was around 490cc via stroke only. Serco also tell me they still use Maico 490 pistons, they sent me some specs today, once i get a 465 piston i will compare and tell all!
cheers,
Kt
I ended up boring out a 465 barrel to a standard 500 piston size with no drama's.
I think I may have a standard 500 piston if you need one ;)
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Thanks for the replies men. STILL WAITING on an answer from Anchak and sons on a rod..........
Thnaks for the offer of the 500 piston, mine should clean up at 1mm over stock so will be 469 now!
STILL LOOKING FOR A ROD!
cheeers,
Kt
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Boring the 465 out 1mm will take it to 475cc with a 87x80 bore and stroke.
I tried to fit a 500 crank to my 465 a few years back and the primary drive side was different and also had a beefed up primary gear, I would have had to use the 500 clutch basket as well.
Rick Horvat in the US had some 465/500 pistons.
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There was some previous discussion about rm500 conrods and some one said to use the KTM 360-380 rod kit,is there any machining to be done to make these conrod kits fit to a rm500 crank any info would be appreciated,cheers :)
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KTM rod matches the RM400 not 465/500 , though not anyone has measured the 465 or 500 rods
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There was some previous discussion about rm500 conrods and some one said to use the KTM 360-380 rod kit,is there any machining to be done to make these conrod kits fit to a rm500 crank any info would be appreciated,cheers
There was a discussion in another thread earlier.
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=17045.0 (http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=17045.0)
In case you missed it, Hope this is of any help.
( I thought the RM465Z was the same rod as the 500? And the earlier RM465X being different to the rest, with its internals being a 5 speed and weaker box.
Looks as though Suzuki made more changes to these models than what meets the eye. Sorry if I mislead anyone ).
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Thanks for all the replies Men, i have i believe the 465 & 500 rod are same lenght but 465 has smaller big end (hole,pin and bearing). I have possibley found a 465 rod, Alpha Sports in usa have just invoice me a new one!
See other post re twin leading shoe front end wanted.
Thanks again AND i might just have to change my name, i have an RM collection starting (THANKS BRAD!)!!!! Will post up some pics on return from hols.
cheers,
Kt
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A nice one @ that!! ;)
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$550 for a NOS RM500 rod not cheap ???
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251148266765?nma=true&si=mitef%2FnLphnJiGtBKRmRxSIWW8I%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true#ht_500wt_1288
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$550 for a NOS RM500 rod not cheap
Jeez, they must be getting scarce.
I think I would be to scared to use it, and probably just frame it to hang on the wall. :D
Glad you found one yourself KTM181.
Hope some Conrod manufacturer will do a small run one day.
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Wossner have listed RM500 pistons in the 2013 catalogue. Wossner US will do limited runs of pistons (as low as 12 if anyone is interested)
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A mate of mine has copied a nos RM 500 rod I had and will be manufacturing repos
I will post the details when they are available.
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Wossner have listed RM500 pistons in the 2013 catalogue. Wossner US will do limited runs of pistons (as low as 12 if anyone is interested)
shot them an email and this is the email reply.
Hi Steve,
WOssner have forwarded me your email as we are the Australian agents.
However the RM500 rods are very hard to get hold of, not my manufactures list them any more.
Best Regards
Luke
Bikes & Bits Importers
63 Wandeara Cres
Mundaring WA 6073
Phone : 08 9295 6688 Fax : 1800 080808
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I just put the piston listing there because I couldn't find the piston thread. Rods are not hard to make either, places in Taiwan will churn them out for $10 a piece provided you meet Minimum Order Quantity.